GAS MONKEY & ROADKILL HELLCAT 67 DART & 68 CHARGER DRAG RACE

[cdr]

https://youtu.be/8wqJuNYFKGQ

https://youtu.be/ZQJ_D94HCZA


two different angles

[cbrestorations]

you knew general mayhem was gonna get whooped...very few rules

[cavemanno1]

Man that dart was fast!I was routing for the charger but also for gas monkey!I like Gas monkeys better then road kill!
Do we know what time they ran?

Thanks for posting it!

[Baldwinvette77]

Either way that sounded awesome 

[MoParJW]

I found this challenge a bit confusing with the rules that seemed to change all the time? 
And what they did to the mayhem's taillights is just wrong, that car was perfect.

Back to regular roadkill 

[Baldwinvette77]

heres a video by fiat 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo0ndxMfATs

[VegasCharger]

I found this challenge a bit confusing with the rules that seemed to change all the time? 
And what they did to the mayhem's taillights is just wrong, that car was perfect.

Back to regular roadkill 

[RallyeMike]

I must have been living under a rock the last few months. I never heard of the Gas Monkey Dart and didnt know they had upgraded the drivetrain in the Roadkill Charger.

[6spd68]

Would've loved to see that play out in a quarter...   1/8th = 

[myk]

Yeah I was thinking that too.  What's up with the short race?

[Brass]

I found this challenge a bit confusing with the rules that seemed to change all the time?  
And what they did to the mayhem's taillights is just wrong, that car was perfect.

Back to regular roadkill  

 I agree, that is just god-awful and tragic.  Those taillights are a defining feature of the 68's, arguably the best year ever.    But really, WTF were they thinking?  The mind whirls.    

[WHITE AND RED 69]

I'm a huge Roadkill & General Mayhem fan (those tail lights were a terrible idea though) but I think they deserved to get beat. They called out Gas Monkey to build a car with a hellcat motor after their car was already months into the drive train swap. Their car was basically done and then laid down the rules to Gas Monkey who didn't even have a car at the time. So it's pretty amazing that the dart was built in a short time and performed as it did.

The true winner in all this...Dodge. What a nice publicity stunt.

Yeah I was thinking that too.  What's up with the short race?

I think the Roadkill event was to get a lot of beginners out on the track so the 1/8 mile track makes it a tad safer?

[Baldwinvette77]

WHY

[Lennard]

Those taillights gotta be temporarily/a joke! 

[Brass]

Thanks, Baldwinvette77 for posting that photo up.  I feel a little relieved and cautiously optimistic Lennard is right, it's a joke, and those taillights won't be living there long.  Very funny - now change it back...  

[Baldwinvette77]

Might have something to do with this... Yes.. they did  

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11825768_531583853663544_8172102116960084285_n.jpg?oh=c84d0232aea60897d3eebf5894720052&oe=56800FDC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBofET65Y5I

[myk]

I.......don't understand....

[JB400]

I don't think the new Charger tail lights look all that bad on the Charger, if they were mounted flush in the panel like they're supposed to be.

[myk]

Sure they could've mounted the lights better, but the only tail lights that belong on a 2nd Gen. are the little round ones that came on the '68...

[Brass]

From their FB page:

"We totally agree on the taillights. 100%. But they are controlled by the body computer which won't handle signaling or powering incandescent bulbs. We will be rigging a stand-Alina system to put the stock lights back on."

Heart attack averted.   

[Baldwinvette77]

They couldn't have just thrown them in the trunk?  would have been easier than duct taping them to the tailpanel 

[Ghoste]

Maybe drove the car to the track?

[E86/A47]

Crazy how many people were taking videos with their phones instead of actually watching the race!

[charger500440]

Crazy how many people were taking videos with their phones instead of actually watching the race!

Nobody experiences the real world without viewing it through their phones these days. I was hoping the fad would go away but it only seems to get worse.

The Charger driver looked like he left first but the Dart was way too strong off the line. I suspect the power to weight ratio favored the Dart quite a bit as well...

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

Haha... in both videos you can see me on the right side along the wall shooting photos!

It was fun, my ears are still bleeding.

Many pictures to come!

[BrianShaughnessy]

Sorry either had to lose...      Roadkill guys are cool      Gas Monkey guys are cool too.   

I'm really sorry I couldn't be there.   

[Lennard]

Haha... in both videos you can see me on the right side along the wall shooting photos!
It was fun, my ears are still bleeding.
Many pictures to come!

Ever witnessed a top fuel take off? It will literally rock your world.

[lukedukem]

Haha... in both videos you can see me on the right side along the wall shooting photos!

It was fun, my ears are still bleeding.

Many pictures to come!

cant wait for your pictures.

Luke

[jaak]

I watch GMG, but I love Roadkill. To me, Roadkill seems more legit, I guess because its an Internet show (I understand that RK is sponsered by Dodge, that's why they got the Hellcat engine in their car), but most of the builds on Roadkill (including the the build of this 68 with the Motor Home 440), are low buck builds any of us can do in our own home garages. GMG is entertaining, and Arron seems like a really smart guy that knows his stuff, but its still has that fake reality Discovery Channel drama. Frieburger has said before RK is legit, but on few occasions, they will have to re-enact something if the cameras wasn't rolling and they missed something funny.

Jason

[67440chrg]

This is the first I have heard of this. thanks for posting it. Roadkill rules. I quit watching ass monkey a long time ago. Aaron from assmonkey is a Mopar hater. I'm surprised they didn't put it in a Camaro.

[Kern Dog]

The guys on Roadkill look like normal guys. So often on the TV reality car shows, theres a tattoo freak, a guy with spikes, a skinhead dude and someone with a ZZ Top beard.

[cdr]

The guys on Roadkill look like normal guys. So often on the TV reality car shows, theres a tattoo freak, a guy with spikes, a skinhead dude and someone with a ZZ Top beard.

                           

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

I'm sitting right now with Finny and Freiburger, let me know any questions you have.  And I'll be hanging with them all week.

The pics for the Roadkill Drags are on Woodward Day 2.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hemipwr70/collections/72157656952776040/



Ryan

[cdr]

ask them if they want to go to the HEMI HIDEOUT on SEP 19  

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=576273492417063&fref=ts

[MoParJW]

I'm sitting right now with Finny and Freiburger, let me know any questions you have.  And I'll be hanging with them all week.

Does the General Mayhem have any body reinforcements like subframe connectors? I can't really tell from the pictures.

[lukedukem]

I'm sitting right now with Finny and Freiburger, let me know any questions you have.  And I'll be hanging with them all week.

The pics for the Roadkill Drags are on Woodward Day 2.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hemipwr70/collections/72157656952776040/



Ryan

Ryan, the link didn't work for me. ask David if he ever got the charger registered. i remember them having issues with the DVM. just curious if he got it legal to drive on the road. and if they did any upgrades to the head lights. looks from the pic above to be brighter than old 68's. did they use the headlights off the hellcat like they did the taillights. thanks again Ryan.

Luke

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

Pictures should work now.

The Mayhem does have subframe connectors.

It is not registered still.

Headlights are from the 2015 Hellcat Charger they gutted, as well as the tail lights because there is some computer board in them, if they aren't seen by the computer, the car won't run.  This will be rectified in due time.  But couldn't fix it in time for Dream Cruise.  He plans on running a completely independent lighting harness eventually and gutting the 2015 stuff.  So the computer will see the stuff is there, but he can run 68 tail lights and headlights again.

[myk]

The guys on Roadkill look like normal guys. So often on the TV reality car shows, theres a tattoo freak, a guy with spikes, a skinhead dude and someone with a ZZ Top beard.

Don't forget the vaguely cute, pale skinned, black haired girl who might be attractive if she herself wasn't plastered with tattoos, adorned with spikes and seemed like the love child of a ZZ Top beard...

[Ghoste]

 

[lukedukem]

Pictures should work now.

The Mayhem does have subframe connectors.

It is not registered still.

Headlights are from the 2015 Hellcat Charger they gutted, as well as the tail lights because there is some computer board in them, if they aren't seen by the computer, the car won't run.  This will be rectified in due time.  But couldn't fix it in time for Dream Cruise.  He plans on running a completely independent lighting harness eventually and gutting the 2015 stuff.  So the computer will see the stuff is there, but he can run 68 tail lights and headlights again.

Thanks Ryan, link is working. Thanks for getting answers for our questions. What about the A/C stuff for the charger. Did they just leave the compressor mounted under the hood or did he run a belt bypassing it. Or maybe general mayhem has A/C now, lol?

Luke

[WHITE AND RED 69]

Pictures should work now.

The Mayhem does have subframe connectors.

It is not registered still.

Headlights are from the 2015 Hellcat Charger they gutted, as well as the tail lights because there is some computer board in them, if they aren't seen by the computer, the car won't run.  This will be rectified in due time.  But couldn't fix it in time for Dream Cruise.  He plans on running a completely independent lighting harness eventually and gutting the 2015 stuff.  So the computer will see the stuff is there, but he can run 68 tail lights and headlights again.

Thanks Ryan, link is working. Thanks for getting answers for our questions. What about the A/C stuff for the charger. Did they just leave the compressor mounted under the hood or did he run a belt bypassing it. Or maybe general mayhem has A/C now, lol?

Luke

They ditched all the a/c equip. Just has the basics to make it run. 

http://www.roadkill.com/secrets-of-roadkills-general-mayhem-hellcat-engine-swap/

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

Yeppers, and good news.  They got the plates in the mail yesterday before we left.  The General Mayhem is now street legal.

Unfortunately the General Mayhem damaged the passenger side front suspension on Saturday, so tomorrow we're going to have to do some surgery and replace the lower control arm and strut rod.  I've been calling all over trying to find a Torsion Bar puller to borrow... but no luck.  And YES I know there are other ways to remove the torsion bars without a puller, but the way the lower control arm is now bent.... we need a puller.



Any other questions, let me know. 

[lukedukem]

Ryan, ask what kind of exhaust they used. i know it has headers that were modified. but after that.
I've got a great idea, make a roadkill calender. please.

Luke

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

Sorry about the delay.  Internet has been spotty.

The exhaust is just some 1 foot glass packs  that dump in front of the rear wheels.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hemipwr70/20723746826/in/album-72157657136496148/

[Mike DC]

           
Front suspension damage . . . did it hit a curb or something?

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

No, it's a long story.  When I get home I'll type it all out.  But a safety chain bent the passenger side lower control arm..... badly.  So it wasn't safe to drive any real distance.  We swapped it out at the Osage drag strip on Wednesday.

[Ghoste]

Who tightened the chains, King Kong??

[Mike DC]

 



"Who made the aftermarket strut bar?" might be a better question. 

[lukedukem]

Sorry about the delay.  Internet has been spotty.

The exhaust is just some 1 foot glass packs  that dump in front of the rear wheels.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hemipwr70/20723746826/in/album-72157657136496148/

Thanks Ryan, in that photo of the dealership, is that a challenger on top of it. Wtf

Luke

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

Here's what happened.

Between burnouts #2 and #3 on Woodward, the General Mayhem actually melted the rear tires to the plate they were doing burnouts on.  So when they went to do burnout #3, the car had insane traction for a split second and lurched forward, breaking one of the ratchet straps holding the car from running into the General Maintenance.  The only thing that stopped it from wrecking was the safety chain wrapped around the lower control arm..... bam!  Twisted control arm!



Luke, YES that Challenger and truck are on the roof.  How crazy was that! 

Ryan

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

Oh boy!

https://youtu.be/qRh5KIVO3CM

Ryan

[lukedukem]

thanks Ryan.
i thought i heard somewhere that you where gonna have to pay to watch roadkill. i guess not.
anyway, cant stand that BS about not showing to race cause of reality TV, but i still will watch gas monkey. wow. good watch though as usual.
wish they would have showed more or swap, but there is that link in this thread about it, and its on the roadkill website too.
hot rod garage had a good one too with Tony's 340 demon revival.

Luke

[Stegs]

ah roadkill....my friday will be a good day

just ordered car parts, get some O.T in and watch roadkill!

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

thanks Ryan.
i thought i heard somewhere that you where gonna have to pay to watch roadkill. i guess not.
anyway, that BS about not showing to race cause of reality TV. wow. good watch though as ussual.
wish they would have showed more or swap, but there is that link in this thread about it, and its on the roadkill website too.
hot rod garage had a good one too with Tony's 340 demon revival.

Luke

Eventually they are going to have 1st release on their new MotorTrend on Demand video channel.  Then after 1 month it will come to YouTube for FREE still.  They just haven't started yet.

Yes it is BS about the race and not being able to use them by name.

You can see my fat head and fedora in a few scenes, and then my Challenger pops up in most of the race aerial videos.

Here are my pictures from Roadkill Nights.... some taken a little... lets say under the radar.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hemipwr70/albums/72157656841720820



Ryan

[Mikesmoparperformance]

I saw the epsiode awesome stuff! To bad that they can't air it! TV land sucks It's there event Roadkill.. The dragrace is all over youtube? But you can not show it in your show Roadkill WTF??  TV LAND Gasmonkey:slap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRh5KIVO3CM&feature=youtu.be

[lukedukem]

thanks Ryan.
i thought i heard somewhere that you where gonna have to pay to watch roadkill. i guess not.
anyway, that BS about not showing to race cause of reality TV. wow. good watch though as ussual.
wish they would have showed more or swap, but there is that link in this thread about it, and its on the roadkill website too.
hot rod garage had a good one too with Tony's 340 demon revival.

Luke

Eventually they are going to have 1st release on their new MotorTrend on Demand video channel.  Then after 1 month it will come to YouTube for FREE still.  They just haven't started yet.

Yes it is BS about the race and not being able to use them by name.

You can see my fat head and fedora in a few scenes, and then my Challenger pops up in most of the race aerial videos.

Here are my pictures from Roadkill Nights.... some taken a little... lets say under the radar.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hemipwr70/albums/72157656841720820



Ryan

Still free on YouTube. 

What can you tell me about the car in this pic. Hopefully the link worked. It's that white drag pack challenger
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hemipwr70/20389397410/in/album-72157656841720820/

So gas monkey should air this stuff on their show soon. Hopefully. Wonder if they will admit to cheating. Lol

Pretty cool they gave away a hellcat drivetrain. Wonder if the winner knows how to use it.

Luke

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

thanks Ryan.
i thought i heard somewhere that you where gonna have to pay to watch roadkill. i guess not.
anyway, that BS about not showing to race cause of reality TV. wow. good watch though as ussual.
wish they would have showed more or swap, but there is that link in this thread about it, and its on the roadkill website too.
hot rod garage had a good one too with Tony's 340 demon revival.

Luke

Eventually they are going to have 1st release on their new MotorTrend on Demand video channel.  Then after 1 month it will come to YouTube for FREE still.  They just haven't started yet.

Yes it is BS about the race and not being able to use them by name.

You can see my fat head and fedora in a few scenes, and then my Challenger pops up in most of the race aerial videos.

Here are my pictures from Roadkill Nights.... some taken a little... lets say under the radar.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hemipwr70/albums/72157656841720820

Ryan

Still free on YouTube. 

What can you tell me about the car in this pic. Hopefully the link worked. It's that white drag pack challenger
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hemipwr70/20389397410/in/album-72157656841720820/

So gas monkey should air this stuff on their show soon. Hopefully. Wonder if they will admit to cheating. Lol

Pretty cool they gave away a hellcat drivetrain. Wonder if the winner knows how to use it.

Luke

The car in the pic is the new 2015 Drag Pack Challenger demo car.

Yeah, should be interesting!

[TPR]

Another great episode.
After all the build up though, I thought they could have punched out more than just 26 minutes.
As dukem said, more of the actual swap would have been good viewing.
Looking forward to them swapping back those taillights and getting Mayhem out on the dirt.
Cheers Ryan.
TPR

[Mike DC]

 
I don't see the Mayhem getting any faster on the dirt/gravel with that Hellcat motor. 

The car had more power than it could use on that course last time, with just the raggedy motorhome 440 and one functioning gear.  Now they've added several hundred more pounds worth of horsepower & gears. 

The car really needs less curb weight & more tire to get more speed on the gravel. 


But faster lap times on the gravel isn't necessarily their goal.  They seem more interested in just having fun with it. 

[TPR]

 
I don't see the Mayhem getting any faster on the dirt/gravel with that Hellcat motor. 

Neither do I.

 
They seem more interested in just having fun with it. 

That's what I look forward to seeing.
If it's anything like episode 32, it'll be awesome.
TPR

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

Well it might be a while, depending upon how they roll out the episodes from the Roadkill Takes America Tour.

But because of the damage to the LCA during Woodward Dream Cruise on Saturday... The General Mayhem did not really do anything until nearly the end.



But yeah, the car needs better traction, a transmission that works and some other odds and ends WAY before horsepower to be faster at Dirtfish.

[lukedukem]

Tonight is the fast and loud episode when they get the challenge to drag hellcat cars.

Luke

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

That was an awesome day.....

Can't wait to see what the Monkeys say about us.

[Trulyvintage]

I have always liked the Monkeys

Aaron driving at that " track " at night sealed it for me

He didn't have to do it - he doesn't need the money or fame.

He IS a car guy ... 



Jim

[HPT BANDIT]

I went back and watched the roadkill episode. Why did they keep hitting the rev limiter between shifts? Couldn't they tune that out? Lower the shift point or raise the rev limiter? I bet it was pulling a bunch of timing when they did that.

[BrianShaughnessy]

Just an FYI...   reality TV shenanigans from last nights Fast & Loud.

The Travers stakes that 'Texas Red' ran in against 'American Pharoah' at Saratoga, NY was held on Aug 29.

Texas Red did win the Jim Dandy stakes on Aug 1 at Saratoga.   American Pharoah won the Haskell in NJ on Aug 2.

Roadkill Night was Aug 12.

Creative storytelling. 

[billssuperbird]

Big fan of gas monkey  beer assistant

[lukedukem]

I have always liked the Monkeys

Aaron driving at that " track " at night sealed it for me

He didn't have to do it - he doesn't need the money or fame.

He IS a car guy ... 



Jim

Agree, and when he drove pikes peak, he got real emotional and it truly showed how much of a car guy he was, IMO.

Luke

[Kern Dog]

Shave the stupid beard. It stands out like a hard-on in a nudists colony. Car guy? Sure but why look like a cast member of some Moonshiner TV show ?
The Roadkill guys are more my style. Frieberger is more of a Mopar guy than you'll find in all of the Ass Monkey crew. Ass Monkey is also sponsored by Dodge but you can tell that they are not as enthusiastic about it.