Welp, the Hellcat bug has bitten, thinking about selling my car.

[redmist]

The more I look at what I want to do with a car, the more I keep looking at the hellcats. I love my Charger, but I also want something safe to drive.

Where do you even start at trying to value a car for sale? My car is NOT original in the slightest, but it has a whole bunch of very nice parts in it, and the body is a solid foundation for a re-do. Little rust, and an original EE-1 car (I love that color!)

if I decide to sell, is E-bay the best choice for it?

[redmist]

I started a list of all the stuff in my car.. and YIKES!!!   

















Originaly a 383 2bbl EE-1 car

Engine and fuel:

1967 block .030 over 440 stock forged crank
K-1 rods ARP 2000 fasteners Fully studded top and bottom
SRP forged Pistons at zero deck
Ederlbrock 84cc heads OOTB
Comp XS282S Solid cam
Smith Bros heavy wall push rods
Crane Gold roller rockers, Hughes billet spacer kit
Edelbrock pro-Flo XT Intake 60Lb-hr Bosch EV-14 Injectors
Edelbrock fuel rails, Aeromotive regulator and gauge
Full -8 braided PTFE fuel lines front to back, return style
Aeromotive Phantom 340 pump in stock tank
LS style 92mm throttle body, D-585 LS Ignition coils
Denso 120Amp Alternator
Dougs headers, 2" Primaries to 3.5" collectors
Full 3" Exhaust X Pipe to ProFlows dumped before axle
TCI Rattler ballancer
Milodon windage tray and Drag pan 7qrt
Megasquirt MS3X Engine management Full sequential fuel/spark
500HP/542 Ft-Lbs at crank, Dyno charts available

Transmission and drive:

Copes built 727 forward pattern trans
Trans-Go TF-2 shift kit
bolt in sprag
Billet steel front drum
Alto Red Eagle racing clutches, Kolene steels, Thicker band strut
Red lined bands, Teflon rings
Rear billet servo
4.2 2nd gear lever
CRTs deep aluminum oil pan & billet filter extension
PTC Custom converter 11"
Strange 1350 joint driveshaft
Stock 8 3/4" rear, 3.91 gears, sure-grip
Forged yoke, U-bolt style

Brakes:

Dr-Diff Front and rear "Cobra Kits"
13" drilled and slotted rotors front
11" drilled and slotted rotors rear
Ford Cobra calipers
Mopar 15/16 bore manual dual-res master
Upgraded E-brake cables

Electrical:

Full rewire of car Ron Francis kit
All new switches, all connections soldered and shrink wrapped
Custom Speed Hut gauges. GPS Speedo, Oil, Water, Fuel, Volts
Battery relocated to trunk, NHRA Approved box, and cut-off switch
Custom Check Engine Light on dash via MS3X
Rn Francis switches for Wipers, Lights, 3-way flashers.
0/0 welding wire front to rear for battery mains
Upgraded floor High/Low switch
Denso 120 Amp Alternator, Breaker protected
Wires tucked and hidden/loomed

Interior:

New carpet, New center console, factory top plate and shifter
Pro-Car seats
Dash cap
Needs rear deck cover, and A-Pillar plastic

Wheels, tires, Suspension:

Hotchkis Frame connectors
QA1 control arms
Hotchkis 1.10 torsion bars
Hotchkis strut rods
Hotchkis tuned shocks in front
PST Front sway bar
Rear stock leafs on flipped front mounts
17" Coys C-55 wheels 17x8 front 17x10 rear
NT-555 tires 235/45ZR17 front 285/40ZR17 rear

Body and panals:

Replaced 2 piece trunk floor
Replaced passanger front floor
Has typical rust in lower rear 1/4s starting to form
rust buffles in lowers of doors starting
Very solid over all! Factory under coating still on car
Floors look great
Only surface rust on package tray
This would be an easy body restoration, an honest great start, and solid car.

[keepat]

Motor looks awesome and the stance is perfect!

[redmist]

Thank you!

Here is a video just cruising from the inside.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k-Fps6QJQs

And some more pics.


The car is so different from whats on the market, I don't even know where to start price wise.

[303 Mopar]

Thank you!

Here is a video just cruising from the inside.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k-Fps6QJQs

Change your video to public, it is marked private.

[chargerman69]

I wood be interested if it was in canada

[redmist]

Thank you!

Here is a video just cruising from the inside.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k-Fps6QJQs

Change your video to public, it is marked private.

Done!

[JR]

I love your 68 because it looks like you built it from day one with drivability in mind. It looks like a functional, turn key car built by someone who'd rather be driving it than looking at chalk marks. I love it.

I have no clue about value, but if i was in the market now, I'd trip over stock restored examples to get to yours. Good luck man.

[charge69]

You have an awesome Charger!  Do you really want to get rid of it for a Hellcat?  To each their own but, I would not do it.

[cdr]

                                                 

[chargerperson]

I would think twice before selling your car for a Hellcat.  Though it is no Hellcat, I have 2009 Dodge Challenger 5.7L 6speed which is fun to drive but nothing unique/special.  If you are just looking for horsepower then the change makes sense, but if you want something fun to drive that is unique/distinctive, then I would hold onto your car.  My $.10 anyway

[1974dodgecharger]

the mods done to it is gonna be a hard sale.....your crowd is smaller than people who want stock...

overall you have a badass ride man....WOW!!!

[Baldwinvette77]

just get a hellcat drivetrain, Best of both worlds in a charger like that 

[ws23rt]

just get a hellcat drivetrain, Best of both worlds in a charger like that 

There are a few things beyond the drive train needed to have the best of both worlds.

[Lord Warlock]

its a tempting choice, the newer car is light years from the 60s car, and along with power, you also get drivability, comfort, and gas mileage all in a package faster than the charger.  Then again my 2010 RT Classic challenger is faster than the charger was, but already owning a new challenger, not sure myself which I'd rather have.  Afraid that if the old charger wasn't my first car, it'd likely have to go in favor of the hellcat.  I also know that i'd almost never use the power the hellcat has. 

[Baldwinvette77]

just get a hellcat drivetrain, Best of both worlds in a charger like that 

There are a few things beyond the drive train needed to have the best of both worlds.

ok  .. The Drivetrain.. AND cupholders 

[JB400]

Considering the amount of work you've put into your car already, I wouldn't trade up.  If anything, supercharge what you've got.

[ws23rt]

just get a hellcat drivetrain, Best of both worlds in a charger like that 

There are a few things beyond the drive train needed to have the best of both worlds.

ok  .. The Drivetrain.. AND cupholders 

Now there you go.

[redmist]

Considering the amount of work you've put into your car already, I wouldn't trade up.  If anything, supercharge what you've got.

I already have that in motion, and will be going to boost this winter.

Procharger D1 that will be intercooled as well.





I think what bugs me is that eventually I am going to have to blow the car apart to paint it, and do the body work, and that scares me some. I don't know if I could stand having the car down for a year or two to get that done.

Hmmm.  

[ws23rt]

Considering the amount of work you've put into your car already, I wouldn't trade up.  If anything, supercharge what you've got.

I already have that in motion, and will be going to boost this winter.

Procharger D1 that will be intercooled as well.





I think what bugs me is that eventually I am going to have to blow the car apart to paint it, and do the body work, and that scares me some. I don't know if I could stand having the car down for a year or two to get that done.

Hmmm.  

That is a tough one.----The best way is to just start doing it. Waiting because it looks like a long haul wont help.
A little planning and trying to keep to a schedule will make things happen faster.
The time you have spent so far (a piece at a time) is all behind you. It's just a matter of physical labor to expose the shell for the body work.

[hatersaurusrex]

Let me point out something important, and I say this as someone who REALLY likes hellcats:

In a few years, the Hellcat will be outclassed by some factory turbo V6 car that makes 1000 Horsepower and gets 75MPG.   It will be a footnote in the 'new horsepower wars'.

It will NEVER be a '68 Charger.  You will kick yourself every day for selling it and be one of those guys that says 'man I kick myself every day for selling it' while looking out at your Hellcat that's worth maybe 7500 bucks and has proprietary broken parts that there are no replacements made for.  You'll put it up on blocks and sit around swearing to fix it up one day, and thinking about that cherry '68 you used to have.

Don't do it.

[Homerr]

Are you going to rip in to a Hellcat and mod the heck out of it too?  You don't seem to be the type to just let stock be stock.

[Cncguy]

If it's really a choice. You probably are not a Charger fan anyway.

[don duick]

 

[myk]

I wouldn't worry so much about the power and the performance as I would the body and looks.  Horsepower can be had anywhere, anytime, but what's it going to be wrapped in?  If you want the new-ness of a factory fresh car, a warranty and all of that stuff, go for the 'Cat.  But if you want a timeless piece of steel that is historically as important as it is beautiful I'd stick with the project that you have right now.  Personally, I would stick with the 2nd 'Gen Charger.  The Hellcat is superior in every conceivable way, but one thing it will never be is a second generation Charger.  The 2nd Gen Charger only happened once, and nothing short of the heavens is going to recreate that awesomeness again.

The real question is, what do you want?

[ACUDANUT]

Re: Welp, the Hellcat bug has bitten, thinking about selling my car

What does welp mean. 

[Brass]

Go home, Redmist - you're drunk.    Seriously though, that is a super fine 68 and as great as the hellcats are, there is a real possibility the day will come when you will regret letting it go.  Especially since you seem to enjoy working on your car.  I think the newness and novelty of a Hellcat will wear quicker than expected, and the excitement/appreciation won't have the staying power of a 2nd gen.  Hellcats may be blood and guts cool now - but they don't have the same poetry.  That, and sitting in traffic with 700+ HP is still sitting in traffic.  Either way, good luck with whatever you decide to do!

[el dub]

Re: Welp, the Hellcat bug has bitten, thinking about selling my car

What does welp mean. 

whelp, young mammal of certain carnivorous species, notably canine pup, bear - or lion cub; human youngster

Welp. To be used in place of 'well', when one feels there is no more to say

[AKcharger]

Sell it! 2nd Gen Chargers are over-rated anyway

LONG LIVE 3RD GENS!!!!!

[redmist]

Hehe... ok, ok this is all great info. The fact that I like to Mod cars has come full circle as well, I don't think I would be able to leave the hellcat alone either, so I guess whats the point in starting with a hellcat?? In fact I did that exact same think with a Rubicon Jeep, and by the time I was done with it, literally the only thing left "Rubicon" on it was the stickers on the hood, and the transfer case.

I am seriously leaning towards just keeping the Charger, keep refining the drivetrain till it's perfect, make a plan, blow it apart, paint, put it back together.

[Back N Black]

 New Challengers, Mustangs and Camaro's are everywhere. Most people are numb to it and don't really give it a second look, but a old school muscle pull up everyone stops and stares.

[Dino]

I could tell you why you should keep the 68 and forget about the Hellcat, but I'm not going to.  You're the one that has to drive it.  What I can tell you is that in the right hands, redoing the body is no big deal and with careful planning it won't take anywhere near a year to redo the whole car.  Body work is scary to a lot of people, to me it's easier than building efi as you did so it's all relative.  Start shopping around and make it crystal clear to any and all shop owners that if they accept the job, the car will be worked on 8 hours a day until done.  If they don't like it you keep shopping.

If you do end up selling it, bolt a carb on that thing and sell me your efi stuff would ya?  I'm tired of carbs already.   

[ws23rt]

New Challengers, Mustangs and Camaro's are everywhere. Most people are numb to it and don't really give it a second look, but a old school muscle pull up everyone stops and stares.

I agree   When I first got my 09 challenger they were still new enough that it got a lot of attention. ---So almost seven years have gone buy and many thousands of them have been made. ---Just as a reminder the new car has the same body lines as do the old ones.
The sec. gen. chargers ---the real ones ----(for example) looked similar for only three years.

The attention I get when driving my C500 is fun but it is not a daily driver either. Some folks may buy a new hellcat for the attention it will draw but if they do there will be a let down. The hellcats look like the rest of the challengers that have been made since 2008. (of course the hood is a bit different but to the gen public that is not enough to make a big statement)

My taste for the challenger has much to do with the understated look.  If I was on the other end of this I might want a viper.

Some cars are worn like jewelry.  It's just not my thing ---I don't even have a tattoo.

[Homerr]

Hehe... ok, ok this is all great info. The fact that I like to Mod cars has come full circle as well, I don't think I would be able to leave the hellcat alone either, so I guess whats the point in starting with a hellcat?? In fact I did that exact same think with a Rubicon Jeep, and by the time I was done with it, literally the only thing left "Rubicon" on it was the stickers on the hood, and the transfer case.

I am seriously leaning towards just keeping the Charger, keep refining the drivetrain till it's perfect, make a plan, blow it apart, paint, put it back together.

You mentioned safety as a concern.  I'd love to see what you come up with for safety mods.  Like side impact beams in the doors, ABS...

[redmist]

Hehe... ok, ok this is all great info. The fact that I like to Mod cars has come full circle as well, I don't think I would be able to leave the hellcat alone either, so I guess whats the point in starting with a hellcat?? In fact I did that exact same think with a Rubicon Jeep, and by the time I was done with it, literally the only thing left "Rubicon" on it was the stickers on the hood, and the transfer case.

I am seriously leaning towards just keeping the Charger, keep refining the drivetrain till it's perfect, make a plan, blow it apart, paint, put it back together.

You mentioned safety as a concern.  I'd love to see what you come up with for safety mods.  Like side impact beams in the doors, ABS...

Yup, thats a tough one. I added seats with a head rest for starters. I was rear ended in my truck, and had I not had head rests, I would have broken my neck. Having a set of supportive seats with a head rest was phase one for sure. I think If I keep the car, it will get a cage as well for support, and added safety.

It will never be as safe as a modern car, but I am sure I could get it to the point that it would be much more safe than where it sits now.


But all considerations!

[Charger-Bodie]

Anyway to have both?

[472 R/T SE]

Anyway to have both?

That's my buddy, not counting his '70 triple black Hemi RR, 999 silver paint '70 Challenger R/T, B5 '70 Hemi RR, a turbo Chevelle & whatever else he's got jammed in his shop.

I'm going for ride.  He said it's "WAY FASTER" than the Rousch/Saleen Mustang he had.  That was the fastest car I'd ever been in.  Before that was a little AMC rocket he had that was my fastest.

I'll be using the GoPro, just got new suction cup thingie that I can stick on the outside & videoing from the inside as well.  Can't wait!!!!




Where's a good place for the GoPro?  I was thinking back by the rear tires so you could see them spin @ 60mph.   

[Homerr]

Anyway to have both?

Sell the MS EFI stock parts, your custom parts, software as a kit?

[ACUDANUT]

The only problem with selling your 68, is not many people here are going to know how to fix any problem's with all your aftermarket up grades. 
Don't get me wrong, I love all the high tech. parts you have added. It looks like a killer 68.    I would keep it. 

[Dino]

Anyway to have both?

Sell the MS EFI stock parts, your custom parts, software as a kit?

What he said!      

[MxRacer855]

Good looking car! 

[1974dodgecharger]

The only problem with selling your 68, is not many people here are going to know how to fix any problem's with all your aftermarket up grades. 
Don't get me wrong, I love all the high tech. parts you have added. It looks like a killer 68.    I would keep it. 

that's how you know when a guy who keeps it all stock is going to sell it anyways, lol....(minus some exceptions, but rare)

then you have a guy who mods the crap out of it and knows it worth squat.....

[6pkrtse]

Good luck on your decision. Great looking car but I would never sell my old American Muscle for a newer car any day. As much as I can appreciate new technology it is not the same. I enjoy driving my 2012 Challenger R/T everyday but the nice hot summer days I am out cruising in the Charger.

[Derwud]

I have driven a lot of cars and have ridden a hellcat. There is something about driving a real car whose ABS/Traction Control/Stability Control is your hands/feet/eyes and brain.. Sure GT3RS Porsche's and Bentley Speeds with 616 hp, all wheel drive and 8 spd trans. Lambos - Ferrari's all fun, but the true raw power of an American V-8 and not the refined puss power of current cars..

[Derwud]

By the way did a ride and drive in the 16 Miata, fun car.. Something about going fast in a slow car, fun!!

[PlainfieldCharger]

A friend of mine that has been buying and selling mopars for many years just recently felt he wanted out of the old mopars and into the new. Ordered up a Challenger SRT and started selling off everything. 2 months later came across a fully documented 69 charger RT/SE in great condition. Couldn't resist and bought it. This charger was one he was after for many many years. Maybe just take a break from the car. There is nothing like driving a classic Charger!!  How many cars do you know that when your trailering it, people run you off the road looking at it!!

[Charger-Bodie]

I would have big regrets if I only had a newer musclecar . I sold my 69 to be able to afford my Hellcat Challenger, but I still have my 68 R/t. They are both awesome to drive. They can't match each others personalities. They both provide a different type of experience .

[cincyboy]

This makes me sad in my soul.

[Charger-Bodie]

This makes me sad in my soul.

??

[ws23rt]

This makes me sad in my soul.

??

I feel the same .??----It could be a conversation worth while to many.

[cincyboy]

Not pertaining to your comment Charger-Bodie, just the whole dilemma.  Its like dumping a girl you love for another.  The new one Is younger and fresher, but doesn't have the class of the older one.  Yours will also look 10x better to you when someone else is driving it.

Built not bought I say.  YMMV

[ws23rt]

I get what -Charger-Bodie- is talking about.
Some of us have played with cars for many years. We have bought and sold many. Some cars mean more than others to us for various reasons.
Speaking for myself--the need to move on or down size my passion is a practical question.  I do love the classic chargers and B bodies in general. I have chosen to buy a hellcat because I can. And I do intend to sell my C500 partly because of the purchase of the hellcat. The reason I intend to sell my C500 (in my case) is because I have enjoyed restoring and owning it for 40+ years and the time to move on is here. I also need the room and do not intend to end up with a big pile of cars for my kids to deal with.

The older gals have gained the important stuff and will retain it as long as they live.  Those of you with youth will know that only with time

[TexasStroker]

I'd keep the Charger.

If you want a Hellcat save up for it, or get in on something lower down the ranks and have fun modifying it to your tastes.

You can really put your stamp on a bare bones R/T and build it how you want.  There isn't much left to do to a Hellcat right now...it would mainly be cosmetics to make it stand out as your own.  With an R/T at a fraction of the price (and wait) you could build to suit and have a more fun along the way.  I'm pretty big into late model Challys and while R/T guys and gals can make numerous upgrades, the SRT camp is already on a pretty solid foundation...the factory SRT gear can be improved upon, but it won't be as radical as stock R/T gear. 
For example,if you take an R/T and throw on Eibach springs, aftermarket sways, and a big brake kit with drilled and slotted rotors it is a noticeable improvement in both aesthetics and performance.  If you do that to an SRT you are going from a great set of brakes to a slight better set...your stance might change a little bit...you might shave a few ounces with the sway bars etc.  I don't know if someone like yourself would find satisfaction in that.  Also, if you are new to the late model stuff parts are VERY expensive...I can honestly get more bang-for-the-buck with Charger and Duster parts than I can for the late model Challenger...funny how that works.

Oh, and most importantly...you'd still have the Charger.

Good luck with whatever you decide...I think selling the Charger would be something you'd regret.  If I was in that boat I'd honestly just save up for a new Chally and enjoy both as often as possible!

[myk]

Not pertaining to your comment Charger-Bodie, just the whole dilemma.  Its like dumping a girl you love for another.  The new one Is younger and fresher, but doesn't have the class of the older one.  Yours will also look 10x better to you when someone else is driving it.

Built not bought I say.  YMMV

When it comes to women and cars the same methodology applies:  more is better, assuming that you can afford it. 

Keep the older girl, and the younger one. 

Keep the Charger, and get the Hellcat. 

You only live once, might as well get the most out of it...

[duanesterrr]

So the OP guy asks what is the value of his car and is Ebay the best place to sell it and we are 3 pages in without an answer to either 

[Ghoste]

50k and Mecum in January. 

[duanesterrr]

I was thinking 35-40k.  For sale here so I can buy it! haha.

Honestly though, keeping the 68 is the best decision to be made here.