Identify these wheels on this Daytona

[DC_1]

I guess this could have been asked in the Aero section but since these are not factory offered on XX I thought I would post here.

I'm posting this from my iPhone so I can't upload the pics. Hopefully this link to them works

These are 17"



https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B84qzYQCsiwZUnc5ai1uZTRkQWs

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B84qzYQCsiwZNWtvTm1VdEhFU1k

[Lennard]

I have no clue...but 

[birdsandbees]

If they didn't have so much solid center section I'd say they were old Kelsey - Hayes wheels. Sure hope he didn't drive further than from trailer to show spot on those tires! 

[DC_1]

If they didn't have so much solid center section I'd say they were old Kelsey - Hayes wheels. Sure hope he didn't drive further than from trailer to show spot on those tires! 

Yea, they are a little rough and dry rotted that's for sure.

Could they be off some early 60s Chrysler?

The owner wasn't around to ask about the wheels or the car.

[birdsandbees]

I've seen them before and I'm racking my brain googling everything I think they could be.. thinking 66, 67 vintage. The 17" diameter seems odd for the era though.

[6bblgt]

They are a late '60s Firestone developmental "run flat" wheel & tire combo - the wheels are 17x3"
That Daytona was on display at the Chrysler Museum for a while.

They were either OE or optional on the early '70s Stutz Blackhawks - maybe you remember them from the original Gone In 60 Seconds

[TPR]

Now I remember...

[draftingmonkey]

Firestone LXX. I believe around 1971.  http://www.madle.org/elxx.htm

[DC_1]

Hmm, very interesting stuff.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

They are a late '60s Firestone developmental "run flat" wheel & tire combo - the wheels are 17x3"
That Daytona was on display at the Chrysler Museum for a while.

They were either OE or optional on the early '70s Stutz Blackhawks - maybe you remember them from the original Gone In 60 Seconds

Even with the history, the are still fugly.

[super77se]

those are super ugly.

[JR]

I had no idea run flats were in development that far back. That is really neat.

The link said they cost 100 bucks each in 1970. Thats equal to about $622 each today. $2488 for a set of tires and wheels. No wonder they didnt catch on.

Whats funny is back in 2005, Michelin did the exact same thing, they developed a run flat tire/wheel combo and was able to sell the idea to Honda. They used them on the Odyssey minivan for a couple of years and then discontinued them because of cost to replace and tire techs who werent fimilar with the new technology.




"WHEN Michelin introduced its PAX run-flat tire in the United States on the Touring edition of the 2005 Honda Odyssey minivan, it predicted that the innovative wheel-tire combination "could become as commonplace as fold-flat seats."

But now the tiremaker is giving up on PAX. A Michelin spokeswoman, Lynn Mann, said the company was no longer trying to sell automakers the system, which Michelin once described as "the biggest technical innovation in the tire industry since we introduced the radial tire nearly 60 years ago."

She said that Michelin decided to discontinue PAX because automakers had several other choices in run-flat technology and that there was "slow growth of the extended-mobility tire segment in general."

Ms. Mann said complaints from some consumers and lawsuits about problems — including high replacement costs and difficulties getting the tires repaired — did not play a role in the decision. She said the tiremaker would continue to provide replacements and service to consumers who already had the tires.

With PAX, Michelin tried an approach quite different from other run-flat tires. Typically, this type of tire was designed with extra-strong sidewalls to help support the vehicle if the air escaped. With PAX, Michelin used a supportive ring made of polyurethane inside the tire. Michelin said the ring meant the sidewalls did not have to be so stiff, preserving ride comfort — yet if the tire went flat, the vehicle would still be safe to drive 125 miles at speeds up to 55 m.p.h.

But that inner-ring design made the PAX more difficult to repair, requiring special equipment to mount and dismount the tire. That equipment is available primarily at Michelin or Honda dealers. In several lawsuits and on some Web sites, consumers have complained about the difficulty of finding shops with the equipment to work on PAX; they also cite excessive tire wear and replacement costs as high as $1,600 for four tires."

That sounds like history repeating itself.

[bakerhillpins]

I have no clue...but 

I'm with you and everyone else. 

[Dino]

Gorgeous, absolutely beautiful!  Like looking at a perfe...oh we're talking about the wheels?  Yeah those are fugly.

[1974dodgecharger]

rims are TOO BIG 17inchers on a classic should not allowed 

[tan top]

I guess this could have been asked in the Aero section but Since these are not factory if thought I would post here.

I'm posting this from my iPhone so I can't upload the pics. Hopefully this link to them works

These are 17"



https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B84qzYQCsiwZUnc5ai1uZTRkQWs

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B84qzYQCsiwZNWtvTm1VdEhFU1k

[wingcar]

   Sorry, but they do nothing for the car.....I'd use hub caps before putting those on my car....

[Ghoste]

I would likely display them separately for interest sake.

[Aero426]

He drove the car with those wheels FOREVER.  

This photo with steelies and hubcaps is from last year at the Gilmore show.

[Aero426]

Trunk shot.  That one got some miles put on it

Firestone LXX ("LXX" = 70, new product for 1970).

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Look at the cracks on the sidewall 

[Ghoste]

And irreplaceable.

[Aero426]

More on the LXX wheel and tires from 1969 Popular Science.

https://books.google.com/books?id=FyoDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA57&lpg=PA57&dq=firestone+lxx&source=bl&ots=6-8IL7PcMs&sig=E7yxO56DsMOAPQvhX702C280Bwk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFAQ6AEwBGoVChMIheimr_39xgIVUzGICh1LdA0C#v=onepage&q=firestone%20lxx&f=false

[Indygenerallee]

wow, he sure is brave to run a tire with that much dry rot on a Daytona.... I guess maybe he has never seen what kind of sheet metal damage a blown tire actually causes...(And the rims are ugly as all get out as well) 

[1965gp]

Very similar to the wheels on our 69 Marauder X-100 only in 15" with regular tires. Design of the wheel is almost identical