Another is it real? (General lee)

[keith88]

This showed up on ebay ..looks like it was a 68
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-general-lee-/201393737895?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2ee40090a7&item=201393737895

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doubt it  . imo   

think if it was really real ,    the  seller   would be asking  triple if not more ,    , going by the current charger pricing trend on ebay    

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[Baldwinvette77]

Whats with the black interior, and why isn't the frame bent from a jump 

[keith88]

Easily explained 1st it says " the 1st car you saw AFTER the jump" and a lot of these car had black interiors and were often spray dyed.  Bigger question is why the under side of the trunk is orange ?

[Baldwinvette77]

Easily explained 1st it says " the 1st car you saw AFTER the jump" and a lot of these car had black interiors and were often spray dyed.  Bigger question is why the under side of the trunk is orange ?

Oh, Well still doesnt explain why is had 68 taillights  

Also i think i saw a couple episodes where the trunk was open, and it was orange.....

[myk]

I don't care if Catherine Bach gave birth to it.  It's a rust bucket and should be passed on...

[keith88]

Easily explained 1st it says " the 1st car you saw AFTER the jump" and a lot of these car had black interiors and were often spray dyed.  Bigger question is why the under side of the trunk is orange ?

Oh, Well still doesnt explain why is had 68 taillights  

Also i think i saw a couple episodes where the trunk was open, and it was orange.....

If you look at the quarters it has the round hole that a 68 had for side markers. And they did use them in the show after they converted the rear pannel, this dose look like that might be the case here. There are even some shots in the show that you can see that spot painted over in orange. It could be but i doubt it to.

[Ghoste]

No vin no title nooooo problem. 

[Drache]

"Therefore you would need a doner car not only for parts but title and vin as well"

[GL#10]

Here's your chance to own a piece of history!!! 1969 dodge charger General Lee that was used on the original set of the Dukes of Hazard as the car filming the jumps and the first car you would see after the jumps. this car is in need of everything you can imagine to put it back in its original condition. This car is a rolling chassis only. Warner bros.' policy was that when these cars were hauled to the scrapyard they would pull the vin numbers and destroy the title. Therefore you would need a doner car not only for parts but title and vin as well. If you look closely at the pics you will see the holes in the car were the cameras were installed behind the rebel flag over the back glass. As you know most of these cars were scrapped due to the hard living they endured on the show/ This one fell threw the cracks and has been stored for many years in a barn in south Georgia until I purchased it almost 10 years ago in hopes of restoring it to bring back a piece of history. Due to my busy scedual I have been unable do do this. I have tried to describe this General Lee to the best of my knowlage. I have no other documents or description for this sale. What I am offering for sale is a piece of history, a rolling chassis, NO VIN, NO title, SOLD 100% AS IS. If you use BUY IT NOW option I have several other parts.. doors, fenders, etc.... close to $3000 in extras I will give you with the car and up to 500 miles free delivery. But only on BUY IT NOW. I am using BUY IT NOW and a very fair reserve because I cant really put a price on this car. Thanks for looking and good luck!!!

Looks to me like some ones been drinking out of the Hazzard pond ,  what a load of hog wash !

Buy it now  ,  ha ha

[skip68]

My car was a real General Lee and a 68 so why can't this one be real also?   

[1974dodgecharger]

I'm an appraiser I saw pics it's real.....

[Ghoste]

He spells like he went through the Hazzard school system.

[Homerr]

Scrap metal.

[cbrestorations]

it can still be saved

[Mike DC]

It can be saved if you buy it for $1k and make a stripped-down tube chassis racecar out of it.  That's about the only thing worth doing.



(But don't patch the floor & missing rearend with raw flat sheetmetal, weld in a rollcage to hold the body in shape, borrow a cheap raggedy drivetrain, glue in a cracked windshield, and jump it at Dukesfest - then it becomes a terrible shame.)

[Baldwinvette77]

How were the tv car marker lights filled in anyway? bondo? or could this be one of those few 68's where the marker lights were painted orange?

[keith88]

They weren't filled just painted over- orange ..you can see that in some of the episodes not sure which ones

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Yup its real. Real junk.

[Dreamcar]

No vin, title, or proof it's a real GL means I'd cut the roof off and save it as a souvenir / wall art.

[Baldwinvette77]

No vin, title, or proof it's a real GL means I'd cut the roof off and save it as a souvenir / wall art.

Thats a little harsh , the car is savable, but not at 10k

[Dreamcar]

No vin, title, or proof it's a real GL means I'd cut the roof off and save it as a souvenir / wall art.

Thats a little harsh , the car is savable, but not at 10k

I'm just not a fan of vin and title in an envelope, but that's just me.

[jaak]

I don't think it is. Looks like it was never converted to look like a 69, inside isn't spray bombed tan, and the flag dimensions don't look right to me.

Jason

[keith88]

I got a post in my Facebook from Real General Lee owners  warning about this add that it is NOT real!

[ws23rt]

I got a post in my Facebook from Real General Lee owners  warning about this add that it is NOT real!

I've been reading about "real general lee cars" for years.---Is there a set criteria that is used to established one to be real?  Does ownership by the production company qualify it as being real?

A "real" car from the manufacturer is a tough enough situation.

Another question is about the market for GL cars. If a car can be connected in some way to the TV series, what is the approximate percentage value of that connection?

My intent is not to stir the pot -----It is to learn something for myself and perhaps others that wonder the same things I do.

The future market for the hobby is a big unknown but clues about what we are doing now could be telling something about where it is headed.

[VegasCharger]

He spells like he went through the Hazzard school system.

Yes like the following: "Due to my busy scedual I have been unable do do this."

scedual  !!! WTF!!! Not even close! Correct: Schedule. Incorrect: scedual.   LMFAO

[Mike DC]

I've been reading about "real general lee cars" for years.---Is there a set criteria that is used to established one to be real?  Does ownership by the production company qualify it as being real?

A "real" car from the manufacturer is a tough enough situation. shruggy

Another question is about the market for GL cars. If a car can be connected in some way to the TV series, what is the approximate percentage value of that connection?

My intent is not to stir the pot lol-----It is to learn something for myself and perhaps others that wonder the same things I do.

The future market for the hobby is a big unknown but clues about what we are doing now could be telling something about where it is headed.

There are no set rules for any of the GL issues.  Then problem is there were too many real cars, too little records, and there have always been too many fakes.


How do you know a real one?  Depends.  There was monkey business with the VINs back in the day from at least one of Warner Bros' car suppliers.  So forget about an authoritative VIN list that settles everything.  But we do know the VINs on the 17 cars that Warner Bros sold off after the show ended, and all 27 cars in the 1990s TV reunions & 2000s remake movies.  

There are several other cars that have turned up since then. But each one was a unique set of chance circumstances.  

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In the big picture they just didn't escape the movie-set-to-junkyard path very often.  Hollywood car suppliers 35 years ago were not in the business of selling off their cars to the public.  The mechanics scrounged them for usable parts before sending them off to the junkyard.  The studios wanted them scrapped for liability/etc.   Even in intact shape they were still just raggedy trashed versions of the Chargers available on local used car lots at the time. They didn't exactly look like a good collectible to invest back then.  

We're talking about cars with spray-painted interiors.  Headliner vinyl removed with boxcutters.  Non-criticial wiring all cut out.  Carpeting gone.  68->69 conversions done with pop rivets and no light bulbs in the taillights.  Transmissions run without kickdown linkages.  Half the body panels replaced without concern for lining anything up.  Gallons of bondo.  Side window glass getting broken in wrecks and never replaced.  Engine mounts collapsed from mini-jumps.  Etc.  <-- This is not a description of a jumped GL wreck going to the junkyard.  This is the kind of stuff you'd find on the "intact" driveable GL that hadn't done any major leaps!  The ones going to the junkyard were worse.  Unibodies bent all to hell, doors & wheels & other parts missing, roof skins cut off, etc.  

Now take the picture of a Charger that I just described, and try to view it from early-1980s eyes.   Back then even Hemi cars weren't valuable unless the whole car was in decent original shape.


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Nobody fakes real ones very well.  Partly it's just laziness.  The vast majority of fakes don't pass a one-second (and I do mean ONE SECOND) glance from the people who really know the originals.  The owners' made-up stories are equally weak for the most part.  

And partly, it's a bad risk.  You'd have to start with a clean valuable no-rust survivor Charger to do it.  If your sinister plan to fake a real GL didn't pay off then you're screwed. You started with a nice expensive Charger by 21st-century standards and wrecked half the value of it.  

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What is a real one worth?  No telling.  The were pretty individual cars when they left WB and they have gotten more unique over the years since.  Some have been restored & altered quite a bit.  Others hardly at all.

Also, for decades many of the potential buyers for "real" ones have spent their money on fakes.  We'll never know what the real ones would have been worth if that factor had not diluted their values so much.