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Started by John_Kunkel, July 22, 2015, 03:15:30 PM

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John_Kunkel

Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

polywideblock

yeah saw it on the news a couple of days ago, apparently has authorities in a bit of a  tizz  :yesnod:

      was only a mater of time, the drones  are getting cheaper  and easier to use all the time


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tan top

 that's got terrorism / insaine nut job  written all over it ,   what happens if a explosive device is attached to it ,  guess no one thought of that when inventing this stuff   FFS  ...   just like what I said in the  the car hacking thread .... worlds gone crazy  , heading for a disaster  :Twocents:

scary stuff
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Quote from: tan top on July 23, 2015, 02:37:11 AM
that's got terrorism / insaine nut job  written all over it ,   what happens if a explosive device is attached to it ,  guess no one thought of that when inventing this stuff   FFS  ...   just like what I said in the  the car hacking thread .... worlds gone crazy  , heading for a disaster  :Twocents:

scary stuff

Attaching explosives to a remote controlled is hardly new.

Germany did it back in WWII....





And the US made a remote controlled B-17.

Hell there is a video of a remote controlled helicopter with a full rifle attached to it that is about 20 years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ttSwYNspw

Simply put, it is NOT against the law in any form in the US unless you use something from the USML. Which states, guns over 50 caliber.
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I can see it now, "drone robs bank"   
I'm still waiting for the first shooting done with a drone.  It's the perfect assassin.   The operator can be over 1 mile away, fly it up to some target person, shoot them and fly away.   Nobody will be able to identify a suspect.    I've thought about this for about a year now.   
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Mike DC



The military has already been doing it for years.  

tan top

Quote from: Drache on July 23, 2015, 05:05:04 AM
Quote from: tan top on July 23, 2015, 02:37:11 AM
that's got terrorism / insaine nut job  written all over it ,   what happens if a explosive device is attached to it ,  guess no one thought of that when inventing this stuff   FFS  ...   just like what I said in the  the car hacking thread .... worlds gone crazy  , heading for a disaster  :Twocents:

scary stuff

Attaching explosives to a remote controlled is hardly new.

Germany did it back in WWII....



And the US made a remote controlled B-17.

Hell there is a video of a remote controlled helicopter with a full rifle attached to it that is about 20 years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ttSwYNspw

Simply put, it is NOT against the law in any form in the US unless you use something from the USML. Which states, guns over 50 caliber.


 yep your right Drache  :yesnod: :2thumbs:  I agree !

perhaps I should of worded it differently ,    imo whats happening with these drones with cameras , that are available to anyone ,  soo any terrorist , weirdo  ,  sicko , can leaglly buy one  , fly one  , &  can easily make a home made   smart bomb , & fly it to who knows where . also  rob a bank like chuckie says  , even assonate someone !  that's the problem  , fancy stuff like this technology was out the reach of most if not all of the civilian population , once upon a time  .   now look !
 like everything  . fall into the wrong hands , look out !!
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John_Kunkel

Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

RallyeMike

QuoteSimply put, it is NOT against the law in any form in the US unless you use something from the USML.

For what it's worth, its being reported in the US that its illegal to arm a civilian aircraft.
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Drache

Quote from: RallyeMike on July 23, 2015, 08:02:20 PM
QuoteSimply put, it is NOT against the law in any form in the US unless you use something from the USML.

For what it's worth, its being reported in the US that its illegal to arm a civilian aircraft.

The BATFE might have a problem but they have already said, a gun mounted to an R/C isn't illegal.

The CLOSEST law according to the FAA is:

"No pilot in command of a civil aircraft may allow any object to be dropped from that aircraft in flight that creates a hazard to persons or property. However, this section does not prohibit the dropping of any object if reasonable precautions are taken to avoid injury or damage to persons or property."
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Quote from: RallyeMike on July 23, 2015, 08:02:20 PM
QuoteSimply put, it is NOT against the law in any form in the US unless you use something from the USML.

For what it's worth, its being reported in the US that its illegal to arm a civilian aircraft.

Yeah, it's just too bad that criminals and people who would use drone technology for evil don't follow the laws...

Ponch ®

..and you cant shoot them down or you may do federal time (though self defense is an exception)..

http://gizmodo.com/is-it-ok-to-shoot-down-your-neighbors-drone-1718055028
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Drones are finally going to crack open the question about how far your "airspace" extends above the ground you own.

If the govt/FAA won't deal with the issue then there is a very simple solution.  We need to park video-recording drones outside the bedroom windows of every Congressman's private home until they do. 


polywideblock

wouldn't it be possible for someone with the technical skills to build a jamming devise to interfere with the drones  radio control   :scratchchin:   

drone would just crash " for no apparent reason "     :shruggy:


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Looks like a good way to get a free handgun to me!

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sunfire69

Poly,
Yes it is possible, and already being done by the military.....building one is pretty easy...just find a transmitter with way more power than theirs and let her rip...but ...you can't do it because unless you know the frequency they are using you would have to jam the whole band they are in.... and the Feds absolutely do not like the public jamming radio frequencies ....remember when theaters wanted to jam cell phones.....

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The FAA is way behind when it comes to how Drones should be regulated....I fear that it going to take some really bad incident before they move....but of course by then they will go over broad with whatever regulations they come up with..... 
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Drache

Quote from: sunfire69 on July 27, 2015, 06:22:11 AM
Poly,
Yes it is possible, and already being done by the military.....building one is pretty easy...just find a transmitter with way more power than theirs and let her rip...but ...you can't do it because unless you know the frequency they are using you would have to jam the whole band they are in.... and the Feds absolutely do not like the public jamming radio frequencies ....remember when theaters wanted to jam cell phones.....

Actually all you need is $1000 and the know how.

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-06/researchers-hack-government-drone-1000-parts
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skip68

Nothing like that belongs in the hands of the general public/civilians.   
   EVER.     :rotz:
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Quote from: kab69440 on July 29, 2015, 03:41:17 AM
I disagree. I have the right to own anything that I can buy or build.

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67440chrg

I think new laws will have to be made to govern drones. It will be interesting to watch.

sunfire69

Just like new laws to govern the internet....if so were in deep stuff...

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Drache

Quote from: Old Moparz on July 30, 2015, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: Ponch ® on July 25, 2015, 07:53:00 AM
..and you cant shoot them down or you may do federal time (though self defense is an exception)..

http://gizmodo.com/is-it-ok-to-shoot-down-your-neighbors-drone-1718055028


Interesting read, but this guy must not have read it.  :lol:

http://www.wdrb.com/story/29650818/hillview-man-arrested-for-shooting-down-drone-cites-right-to-privacy

The flight recorder data came out. Seems the guy lied, the drone never dropped below 200 feet and never hovered over his property.
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If it was that high up then what did he hit it with?  Not the ammo he claimed.


200ft is not really that high.  Not in the big scheme when we are talking about legal precedents.  I would still be bothered by a drone that high over my house.  And if you want to spy on someone you don't have to be directly over their property to see things.  

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