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Is the new B5 blue the same as the old? ????????

Started by skip68, July 10, 2015, 06:42:48 PM

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skip68

Just curious if the new B5 blue is the same or really close?   
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


ws23rt

I saw one of the new challengers in B5 up close last week. My first impression was there is more glitter/metallic  than my C500 has. That may give it what seems to me to be a brighter look.
I painted my charger so I know the correct paint code was used when I bought the paint 18 years ago.-- I used PPG base/clear.--
Someone in the paint mixing world of today may be able to add some light on this. :lol:
Another thought about this is I've heard the term pearl coat used along with B5 when talking about the new one. :shruggy:
If the new color is indeed different it should have it's own name. :Twocents:

skip68

That's what I thought.  I was looking and a new challenger that looked like B5 but seemed more metallic.    :shruggy:
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


Kern Dog

The wife and I bought a 2015 Challenger R/T in B-5. It does seem to have more metallic to it, plus it seems to me that the color is a bit different than I recall the early cars. This could be a flawed comparison though. I've never seen a pristine survivor quality B-5 classic, only repainted cars or beat down derelicts. I repainted a Duster in B-5 in 2008 using Omni mixed to the PPG/Ditzler 2019 color code. I still have some of that paint. I could shake the can and dip a stir stick in it. I was hit in the RH fender of our Challenger and when they replaced it, I kept the original fender to hang on my shop wall. I could check the color over the weekend.

6bblgt

B5 is limited to B (color) = blue & 5 (shade) medium - on a 1 to 9 scale

Chrysler's first use of "B5" was for the  1969 model year (EB5)
it was re-formulated for 1971 (GB5)
it was re-formulated for 1974 (KB5)
it was re-formulated for 1975 (LB5)
it was re-formulated for 1976 (MB5)
& again for 1977 (PB5) etc.

its official name varied by year and division Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth

modern paints can mimic old colors but they are NOT the same

Troy

I'd say no. I haven't had mine next to a known original car but I was behind a 1970 Charger going in to Carlisle and, looking over the hood of mine, there was a difference in shade. Could be his was repainted incorrectly(?). Plus, most of the new colors seem to have some pearl in them and, as mentioned, a LOT of metallic.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

TheAutoArchaeologist

They aren't that far apart.

Here's a nice 1970 Hemi Charger R/T in B5 and a brand new 2015 Charger Scat Pack in B5..... pretty close.


Lord Warlock

its close from a distance, but close up you'll notice the metallic more.  The challenger owners on the challenger boards have discussed it and come to the same conclusion, its not the same color, but close enough to count. 
69 RT/SE Y3 cream yellow w/tan vinyl top and black r/t stripe. non matching 440/375, 3:23, Column shift auto w/buddy seat, tan interior, am/fm w/fr to back fade, Now wears 17" magnum 500 rims and Nitto tires. Fresh repaint, new interior, new wheels and tires.

Troy

Quote from: Devil on July 14, 2015, 06:17:35 PM
They aren't that far apart.

Here's a nice 1970 Hemi Charger R/T in B5 and a brand new 2015 Charger Scat Pack in B5..... pretty close.


Funny! That's the 70 Charger I was behind in the morning - but that's not me in the front!

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

bill440rt

Quote from: 6bblgt on July 11, 2015, 01:00:22 AM
B5 is limited to B (color) = blue & 5 (shade) medium - on a 1 to 9 scale

Chrysler's first use of "B5" was for the  1969 model year (EB5)
it was re-formulated for 1971 (GB5)
it was re-formulated for 1974 (KB5)
it was re-formulated for 1975 (LB5)
it was re-formulated for 1976 (MB5)
& again for 1977 (PB5) etc.

its official name varied by year and division Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth

modern paints can mimic old colors but they are NOT the same


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TheAutoArchaeologist

Quote from: Troy on July 14, 2015, 07:11:45 PM
Quote from: Devil on July 14, 2015, 06:17:35 PM
They aren't that far apart.

Here's a nice 1970 Hemi Charger R/T in B5 and a brand new 2015 Charger Scat Pack in B5..... pretty close.


Funny! That's the 70 Charger I was behind in the morning - but that's not me in the front!

Troy


That's pretty funny.  I didn't see him at all on Sunday.

1974dodgecharger

you gotta love the look of the new charger...its a badass looking car IN ITS OWN RIGHT, but you cant compare it to the OLD that's for sure.
Quote from: Devil on July 14, 2015, 06:17:35 PM
They aren't that far apart.

Here's a nice 1970 Hemi Charger R/T in B5 and a brand new 2015 Charger Scat Pack in B5..... pretty close.



Brock Lee

Quote from: 6bblgt on July 11, 2015, 01:00:22 AM

modern paints can mimic old colors but they are NOT the same

Very true. Not just in the makeup, but in the mixing process. People today do not realize how flawed that old technology was. There was a reason color matching was an artform back in the day. If you went to a bodyshop they could do a killer repair, but blow it matching your paint. If you found a fender from a same color car, you could usually tell it was replaced as the color could vary batch to batch.

Todays colors are translated interpretations of the old colors. While paint colors can be computer matched with ease and made consistent no matter where you buy them, it had to begin with a master example. That master could very well be pushing the tolerances of the tints and "off" from its intended shade. I learned this 15 years ago and have found many translated colors are not ideal matches to what is intended. I have paint chips matched whenever possible now.