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Value? 68 Charger with #s 383 block

Started by norcal_68, July 09, 2015, 06:17:06 PM

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Lennard

I would pay around ten grand for it. It still needs a lot of love.(read $)   :Twocents:

norcal_68

Thanks Lennard. Second question, do these 10k cars still pop up? Or are they now 15k cars?

Lennard

For $15 grand you should have a running and driving second gen. Charger in my opinion.
Keep an eye on Craigslist. You can get almost every part new for these cars but they cost an arm and a leg...keep that in mind.
Buying a Charger is easy. Restoring one is a different cookie.

cdr

look at the bottom of the right rear 1/4, it has globs of bondo
LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

Cncguy

Something wrong with the floor pan also. Look at the drain hole.

cdr

LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

skip68

That's what I was going to say.  Lots of bondo under that paint.   I think I'd pass unless it was local so I could inspect it myself. 
IMO It's more than maxed out at $12K.   That's the downside of a freshly painted car and you already see bondo.   Some before pictures would help of the car sanded down.   If it was really that solid he'd posted pictures before paint with after paint.   Could be just a mistake but I wouldn't gamble on it.   
PASS and find another.     :Twocents:
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


cdr

LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

Dino

I get some seriously bad vibes looking at that car.  I wouldn't touch it and I happen to know how to restore a car.

I doubt you can still find a solid driver for $15K though.  I don't think I'd be looking for a mutt Charger with less than $20K in my pocket, and I wouldn''t expect a whole lot of choices with that budget either.  They still pop up from time to time, but things sure have changed in the past few years.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

C500

Quote from: cdr on July 09, 2015, 07:23:49 PM
look at the bottom of the right rear 1/4, it has globs of bondo

which pic shows that? Has that one been taken off?

I would not buy that car for 10k. Looks like a half-ass body job, engine bay not done, and not fully taken apart with overspray, bondo.... I would want to see some pics of it before and during the body work if I was to consider buying it.
"An aggressive exterior with power to match was enough to pull in the performance boys-especially when abetted by a pair of pipes blaring out the back, and brawny red-sidewall rubber hitting the pavement."  

"........the four speed box changes cogs with the precision of a sharp axe striking soft pine."

norcal_68


yeah seems like 20k is the new 15k. I'm trying to get a sense of whats fair and how much I should spend on a roller or a driver.

Quote from: Dino on July 09, 2015, 09:11:57 PM
I get some seriously bad vibes looking at that car.  I wouldn't touch it and I happen to know how to restore a car.

I doubt you can still find a solid driver for $15K though.  I don't think I'd be looking for a mutt Charger with less than $20K in my pocket, and I wouldn''t expect a whole lot of choices with that budget either.  They still pop up from time to time, but things sure have changed in the past few years.

cdr

LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

C500

"An aggressive exterior with power to match was enough to pull in the performance boys-especially when abetted by a pair of pipes blaring out the back, and brawny red-sidewall rubber hitting the pavement."  

"........the four speed box changes cogs with the precision of a sharp axe striking soft pine."

cbrestorations

you are not going to get much of a charger for 10k and under, yes i know you can find them cheap as i have too, but those are becoming fewer. we are talking ebay, where a decent running and driving base model charger is 20k+. if i was to sell a charger thats exactly where i would put it, on ebay as it will bring the most $ for a project car.

Homerr

Seems like it needs to be taken down to bare metal again.  The engine and trunk being half-assed doesn't bode well either.  $8k


Dino

Quote from: norcal_68 on July 10, 2015, 04:50:52 PM
What do the experts think of this for $7500?  :popcrn:

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/5111902880.html





That car will end up costing you more than a mint one. A lot more.

I would consider saving up so you can buy a nice driver.  A car like that will likely never leave your garage under its own power.  I'm not implying you don't know how to fix them, but unless you have a ton of money to burn and you can work on that car 8 hours a day, I'm not betting on it seeing daylight again anytime soon.  A pro could spend 1000 hours on that thing and still not be finished.

I know it's hard not to buy the one you can afford right now, but that fuzy feeling you get because there's a charger in the garage doesn't last all that long.  It'll be replaced with that nagging feeling of why the heck did I buy this pos?

Save up and you'll find the baby boomers selling these like they went out of style.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

skip68

Going from description and pictures I'd be interested in it for $7,500 as long as it's a solid roller.    :2thumbs:   I'd check it out if I were you.   
Motors and trannies are cheap compared to bodywork.   
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


norcal_68

I totally understand where you're coming from. This might be too much of a project BUT there is a certain amount of satisfaction of building something that has been discarded and brought back to life. I built a car (69 F-body: I would never use the c-word here :icon_smile_big:) which took 2 years to put back together and it was gratifying. I would go to GoodGuys and talk to owners about their builds(cars) and the sad thing was the majority of them bought their cars like that or just signed a check. I'm looking for a roller to build with my sons. I'm on my 2nd build right now and I'm looking for something to park so that when that is done I'll have something else to start.

I thought this one looked good as there is no surprises under paint. The warm fuzzy feeling come from the first time you crank the motor and it fires up!


Quote from: Dino on July 10, 2015, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: norcal_68 on July 10, 2015, 04:50:52 PM
What do the experts think of this for $7500?  :popcrn:

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/5111902880.html





That car will end up costing you more than a mint one. A lot more.

I would consider saving up so you can buy a nice driver.  A car like that will likely never leave your garage under its own power.  I'm not implying you don't know how to fix them, but unless you have a ton of money to burn and you can work on that car 8 hours a day, I'm not betting on it seeing daylight again anytime soon.  A pro could spend 1000 hours on that thing and still not be finished.

I know it's hard not to buy the one you can afford right now, but that fuzy feeling you get because there's a charger in the garage doesn't last all that long.  It'll be replaced with that nagging feeling of why the heck did I buy this pos?

Save up and you'll find the baby boomers selling these like they went out of style.



Dino

Ah now that's a different story!  If a project is what you want because you want to build a car then sure go for it.  The value when it's finished doesn't matter much in this case.  For some reason I thought you wanted a driver.

I've bought cars in rough shape just so I could fix them up so I understand where you're coming from.  And I agree that s bare metal body is about the best you can find.  Stripping paint is not exactly the fun part.   :lol:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

norcal_68

Yeah sorry I didn't clarify that. I'm tapping into this community because I want to get your point of view of values of cars. Because I haven't been following mopar boards I want to get a sense of what I should pay for what. So looking at it with that lens, do you think this would be a good starting point? It looked pretty solid to me besides the rear quarters behind the wheel. Of course, we didn't see the window channel without the glass in it. Anyhow, thanks for contributing to my thread.

Quote from: Dino on July 10, 2015, 07:02:37 PM
Ah now that's a different story!  If a project is what you want because you want to build a car then sure go for it.  The value when it's finished doesn't matter much in this case.  For some reason I thought you wanted a driver.

I've bought cars in rough shape just so I could fix them up so I understand where you're coming from.  And I agree that s bare metal body is about the best you can find.  Stripping paint is not exactly the fun part.   :lol:

Dino

Quote from: norcal_68 on July 10, 2015, 07:21:51 PM
Yeah sorry I didn't clarify that. I'm tapping into this community because I want to get your point of view of values of cars. Because I haven't been following mopar boards I want to get a sense of what I should pay for what. So looking at it with that lens, do you think this would be a good starting point? It looked pretty solid to me besides the rear quarters behind the wheel. Of course, we didn't see the window channel without the glass in it. Anyhow, thanks for contributing to my thread.

Quote from: Dino on July 10, 2015, 07:02:37 PM
Ah now that's a different story!  If a project is what you want because you want to build a car then sure go for it.  The value when it's finished doesn't matter much in this case.  For some reason I thought you wanted a driver.

I've bought cars in rough shape just so I could fix them up so I understand where you're coming from.  And I agree that s bare metal body is about the best you can find.  Stripping paint is not exactly the fun part.   :lol:

All Chargers will need metsl work so this is really not out of the ordinary and you could surely do worse!  My concern would be with the rest of the parts.  Jow much casn be fixed snd how much would you need to buy new.  That said, for a project this looks pretty good.

I like my casrs to be assembled so I know what's there, but a carin boxes does have its charm!   :yesnod:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

skip68

skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


70 sublime

next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

C500

"An aggressive exterior with power to match was enough to pull in the performance boys-especially when abetted by a pair of pipes blaring out the back, and brawny red-sidewall rubber hitting the pavement."  

"........the four speed box changes cogs with the precision of a sharp axe striking soft pine."