Barracuda Trademarked Again

[stripedelete]

Wow,,,, it really looks like a 1973 Coronet.

I wonder what you get when you shorten a 73 Coronet?

[ECS]

Wow,,,, it really looks like a 1973 Coronet.

We were hoping for it to look more like a 1970 Polara Station Wagon!  I guess a 1973 Coronet also works well in the overall scheme of things.   

[chargerjy9]

 I hope that the greenhouse photos were a result of terrible camera lens distortion. IMO the greenhouse is way out of proportion to the body.The side glass is way too tall in relation to the lower body. Not really pleasing to the eye. The side glass DLO is way too high in relation to the windshield DLO and backlight. All the DLO heights should relate to one another and generally  flow from one another. Look at any E body or most any car from the era, the WS and Blite are much closer in height  to the side glass DLO. Elementary  automobile styling rule of thumb. I know you don't take criticism easily,  I certainly appreciate the build quality, it is well done, just my 2 cents....

[ECS]

IMO the greenhouse is way out of proportion to the body.The side glass is way too tall in relation to the lower body......Look at any E body

You can't aesthetically compare a 4 Door with the same "fastback" appearance of a 2 Door Model.  They are two completely different designs.  If the window openings of a 4 Door were angled like a 2 Door, the person getting into the back of the car would hit their head when entering.  There would not be sufficient room for climbing into the back of the vehicle. 

Below are some comparison photos to illustrate the point.  Notice the B Body 2 & 4 Door design.  The 4 Door Satellite's Roof-line looks taller than the 2 Door version to accommodate clearance for a Passenger to enter the back seat.  We actually narrowed the top of the custom C Pillar to give our 4 Door a more "fastback" appearance.  For what we accomplished, our 4 Door profile is not as square and tall looking as the "real" 4 Door vehicles that Chrysler built.

[chargerjy9]

You are correct in your assessment. But, looking at those same photos illustrates my point EXACTLY, All of the DLO top edges feed off one another. I assume you have to use the W/shld and Backlight from an existing E body, as, to make glass that fits the profile  would be cost prohibitive. As such, aesthetically, this solution just plain doesn't work. The W/shld and Backlight come off looking like the slit windows on a WW1 tank. It just plain looks weird. IMO

[ECS]

It just plain looks weird. IMO

"Weird" is certainly a relative term in this particular case.  The only alteration made to the door openings was in the belt line area.  It had to be lowered approximately 1 inch.  That makes the window openings look a bit larger.  What you're not factoring into the equation is the custom window seals that will close the opening about 5/8 of an inch.  (Shown below.)  The stock trim on a Barracuda was a thin stainless rolled lip that stood about an 1/8 inch above the belt line.  Our custom door seal weather strip will sit up about 5/8 of an inch above the belt line.  That will help make up for the one inch space that was removed when we had to continue the Barracuda Quarter & Fender body lines.  The drip molding trim above the windows will be black instead of the typical silver stainless steel.  The windshield and rear glass will have the 1 inch stainless surround which will give those areas the illusion of being somewhat equal to the door openings.  The black vinyl top will also aid in making the top section of the car to flow together.  

Your observations and "criticism" is being made on an incomplete design.  None of the features I just mentioned have been incorporated into the photos I posted.  I'm surprised that someone hasn't said that the the car looks "weird" because it doesn't have wheels & tires.  I think that our 4 door looks much more streamline than the typical appearances of Chrysler's production 4 doors.  Your observations and assessments are much better spelled out in the comparison pictures of the 2 door Roadrunner and the 4 door Satellite.  Our 4 door version of the Barracuda has more of a "fastback" look than Chrysler's versions of their examples.

[resq302]

I see no considerable difference between the two door and the four door aside from the trajectory of the C post with the rear doors.  Its also hard to compare the three cars that are finished and has all the trim and garnishments like the side mirror, etc. to a car that is in primer and has a back drop that is almost he same color as the car.  Pretty much is like a woman in a black dress that makes her look slimmer.  I bet once he he gets the trim, mirrors, and everything else onto the car it will look no different than the ones pictured above.  Even if he takes the same picture in front of that garage, I'll bet that the car looks completely different than it does now !

[ECS]

Its also hard to compare.........

The top of the door glass at its highest point is about 3/4" taller than the front & rear glass.  Once the blackout trim above the windows has been installed, accompanied by the surrounding stainless of the windshield & back glass, the linear appearances will equal out.  The reference of slit windows on a WW1 tank are more applicable to the SE option on a 1970 Challenger.  It's ironic how the tiny "slit" glass in an SE is considered rare and desirable but the full size rear glass in our 4 door is described as "weird" looking. (lol)

[MoParJW]

You can't aesthetically compare a 4 Door with the same "fastback" appearance of a 2 Door Model.  They are two completely different designs.  If the window openings of a 4 Door were angled like a 2 Door, the person getting into the back of the car would hit their head when entering.  There would not be sufficient room for climbing into the back of the vehicle. 

Absolutely, and even with the higher roof on a 68-70 4 door sedan, my passengers are still hitting their heads on the c-pillar!

I will be waiting to see this car on its wheels.

[DAY CLONA]

Nice to see your project coming to fruition Dave, nicely done and executed, as one wouldn't expect anything less from you, IMHO the car's build/appearance represents exactly the way Chrysler would have employed existing product line components to achieve a 4dr E body model


Mike