69 daytona wing mounting hole template

[6869]

Can someone please tell me where I can find info on mounting holes for daytona wing and inside bracket hole mounting dimensions? Thanks

[Daytona R/T SE]

Dave Patik at performance car graphics makes a template set.

It was very helpful to me on my car.

[70 sublime]

I just did this last week

Back edge of wing base is 3" from edge of 1/4 pannel (not the end cap) and 2 1/8 " from inside edge of trunk opening

I just made my own template out of an EGGO box 

[FJ5WING]

something dosent look right?
wouldnt the horizontal have the same angle as the deck lid?

[myk]

I just did this last week

Back edge of wing base is 3" from edge of 1/4 pannel (not the end cap) and 2 1/8 " from inside edge of trunk opening

I just made my own template out of an EGGO box  

That is so cool.  Do you have any other pictures of that car?

[XS29L9B2]

nice picture thank you for mine

[myk]

nice picture thank you for mine

Are you mounting a Daytona wing on your car as well?

[A383Wing]

something dosent look right?
wouldnt the horizontal have the same angle as the deck lid?

looks right to me....

[70 sublime]

something dosent look right?
wouldnt the horizontal have the same angle as the deck lid?

I think Daytona and Superbird up rights have a different angle to them ? 

[70 sublime]

I just did this last week

Back edge of wing base is 3" from edge of 1/4 pannel (not the end cap) and 2 1/8 " from inside edge of trunk opening

I just made my own template out of an EGGO box  

That is so cool.  Do you have any other pictures of that car?

Think I will start a new thread on the car

[A383Wing]

something dosent look right?
wouldnt the horizontal have the same angle as the deck lid?

I think Daytona and Superbird up rights have a different angle to them ? 

yes, 'Bird uprights are swept back more

[thehemikid]

something dosent look right?
wouldnt the horizontal have the same angle as the deck lid?

FJ5WING...I'm see'n what your say'n.

It may be an optical illusion,  camera lens,  or the perspective view,...but the distance on this end (wing to lid) looks a lot wider than the other side.

Just my 2 eye balls, ...I mean cents worth.

[cdr]

something dosent look right?
wouldnt the horizontal have the same angle as the deck lid?

the wing might have one superbird upright & one daytona 

[XS29L9B2]

Are you mounting a Daytona wing on your car as well?

no i made one daytona with one 70 it a new car

[myk]

Are you mounting a Daytona wing on your car as well?

no i made one daytona with one 70 it a new car

Oh wow, keep us updated.  I'd love to see that thing rolling through El Cajon one day...

[XS29L9B2]

Oh wow, keep us updated.  I'd love to see that thing rolling through El Cajon one day...

i have one subject hir ;-)

[Old Moparz]

Wouldn't it make sense that before setting the template to to drill holes that you double check the length of the horizontal portion of the wing?   

I bring this up because I have two different after market wings & each of the horizontal parts are different lengths.

Having said that, can someone tell me what the correct length is supposed to be for a Daytona?

[moparstuart]

Wouldn't it make sense that before setting the template to to drill holes that you double check the length of the horizontal portion of the wing?   

I bring this up because I have two different after market wings & each of the horizontal parts are different lengths.

Having said that, can someone tell me what the correct length is supposed to be for a Daytona?

HOARDER

[70 sublime]

Wouldn't it make sense that before setting the template to to drill holes that you double check the length of the horizontal portion of the wing?   

I bring this up because I have two different after market wings & each of the horizontal parts are different lengths.

Having said that, can someone tell me what the correct length is supposed to be for a Daytona?

I could not figure out where the inside edge should be because every thing had a curve to it so I put the wing together and set it on the 1/4s then taped down my template before lifting it off  to get the right spot for the holes

[Old Moparz]

Wouldn't it make sense that before setting the template to to drill holes that you double check the length of the horizontal portion of the wing?   

I bring this up because I have two different after market wings & each of the horizontal parts are different lengths.

Having said that, can someone tell me what the correct length is supposed to be for a Daytona?

HOARDER

You're almost correct.   

I bought one of Dane's earlier, solid wings, then later on I bought a package deal of Janak's Daytona parts from someone that included a wing. Dane's wing is unfinished & needs to be drilled, but Janak's is good to go & has the studs installed already. I was going to use the Janak uprights to make the templates so I can then drill Dane's wing & use his. Not sure if I can do that now because the wings are different. 

[Old Moparz]

Wouldn't it make sense that before setting the template to to drill holes that you double check the length of the horizontal portion of the wing?   

I bring this up because I have two different after market wings & each of the horizontal parts are different lengths.

Having said that, can someone tell me what the correct length is supposed to be for a Daytona?

I could not figure out where the inside edge should be because every thing had a curve to it so I put the wing together and set it on the 1/4s then taped down my template before lifting it off  to get the right spot for the holes

Sounds similar to how I intend to mount it, but my biggest fear is that the tops of the quarters could be pulled inward & show dimples or kinks once the wing is assembled & tightened together. Hard to describe in words, but the top of each quarter panel is not flat so if the wing uprights are already connected to the center piece & the holes for the studs in the base are too far apart, then as the nuts on the underside are tightened & the base of the upright becomes flush with the sheet metal it could distort.

[70 sublime]

I am using one of Dane's hollow wings now and he already had the studs screwed into the uprights

So I took all the studs out and tightened up the top bolt on the wing on both ends before I set it on the car
It sat down right on the line I had figured out for the gap from the trunk lid opening

In the big picture I do not think the base is very wide to try and flatten out the top of the 1/4 panel and there is still a rubber gasket to go in there too

[Old Moparz]

I am using one of Dane's hollow wings now and he already had the studs screwed into the uprights

So I took all the studs out and tightened up the top bolt on the wing on both ends before I set it on the car
It sat down right on the line I had figured out for the gap from the trunk lid opening

In the big picture I do not think the base is very wide to try and flatten out the top of the 1/4 panel and there is still a rubber gasket to go in there too

That's good to know, my thought was not so much that the wing was the issue, but that if the holes were mounted too far away from the trunk lid then the base of the uprights would be further apart & could be at a slight angle. The gasket would absorb the difference to a degree but I've tightened parts on things over the years & have seen sheet metal distort.

I didn't write down the difference in the wing measurements but it was significant, like at least 1 inch. They are repacked or I'd go out to the garage & measure it, but I'd still like to know what the actual length of the horizontal part is supposed to be. 

[A383Wing]

The horizontal section on my Nascar wing is 57-3/8" across

[DAY CLONA]

Having said that, can someone tell me what the correct length is supposed to be for a Daytona?

The Superbird and Daytona center section, although the same extruded profile/shape are 2 different lengths, the Bird is 55 1/2" +/- 1/4", the Daytona is 57 1/2" +/- 1/4", being that they were hand cut as they were extruded, plus hand finishing at final assembly, the lengths varied...

The Daytona uprights viewed from the rear of the car, should have no taper, a stock wing will measure approx. 60" center to center on the verticals cords on an assembled wing, the cords are the vertical trailing edges top to bottom,....one mistake to avoid is bolting a wing together and positioning it on a car for placement, some wings OEM or repro when bolted together will splay the cords with a taper, the worst case scenario is to have the wing's cords taper down towards the base, making the wing appear pinched at the base when viewed from the rear...

regarding OEM and various aftermarket wings, the heights, base size, and stud location can vary greatly, the only wings to date that have an OEM base size/stud configuration are of course OEM, Janak and Dayclona repro wings, I have had at one time or another almost every repro wing in my procession, and have seen the variations firsthand, so don't make the mistake of mounting one wing, only to substitute it later, you'll only be in for a surprise

mike

[70 sublime]

I had my lines on the car where the very back should be and where the inside edge should be (I gathered these measurements up when the question had been asked before and saved them)

Yes I could pry my uprights in and out some but I just got them so they would fit on the lines and taped down my template and called it good

On my templates I made
I made one and tried it on the other upright and the 2 center studs where not in the same spot so I have 2 different templates a left and a right 

[Old Moparz]

The horizontal section on my Nascar wing is 57-3/8" across

Thanks.

Having said that, can someone tell me what the correct length is supposed to be for a Daytona?

The Superbird and Daytona center section, although the same extruded profile/shape are 2 different lengths, the Bird is 55 1/2" +/- 1/4", the Daytona is 57 1/2" +/- 1/4", being that they were hand cut as they were extruded, plus hand finishing at final assembly, the lengths varied...

The Daytona uprights viewed from the rear of the car, should have no taper, a stock wing will measure approx. 60" center to center on the verticals cords on an assembled wing, the cords are the vertical trailing edges top to bottom,....one mistake to avoid is bolting a wing together and positioning it on a car for placement, some wings OEM or repro when bolted together will splay the cords with a taper, the worst case scenario is to have the wing's cords taper down towards the base, making the wing appear pinched at the base when viewed from the rear...

regarding OEM and various aftermarket wings, the heights, base size, and stud location can vary greatly, the only wings to date that have an OEM base size/stud configuration are of course OEM, Janak and Dayclona repro wings, I have had at one time or another almost every repro wing in my procession, and have seen the variations firsthand, so don't make the mistake of mounting one wing, only to substitute it later, you'll only be in for a surprise

mike

Are the other dimensions & shape EXACTLY the same for both the Super Bird & the Daytona?  

I'm going to measure both horizontal parts of the wings later to see if they match these numbers match. If they are the same other than the length, I'm starting to wonder if I may have one of each.  

[70 sublime]

Daytona and Bird wing are different uprights

[Baldwinvette77]

Has anyone stuck a plymouth wing on a dodge before? 

[Old Moparz]

I finally had a chance to unwrap the wings to measure them again & this is what I have.....

Dane's Solid aluminum Wing .... 55-15/16"
Ted Janak's Fiberglass Wing ..... 57-7/16"

It's exactly a 1-1/2" difference, but splitting that into two 3/4" for each side should be okay.

[Lighthorseman]

Has anyone stuck a plymouth wing on a dodge before? 

Yes...I've seen it done.  The Superbird tail actually hangs over the butt end of the Charger.  Just my opinion, but I think it looks pretty cool.  Sadly, I haven't any pictures.

[DAY CLONA]

Has anyone stuck a plymouth wing on a dodge before? 

Yes...I've seen it done.  The Superbird tail actually hangs over the butt end of the Charger.  Just my opinion, but I think it looks pretty cool.  Sadly, I haven't any pictures.

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[alfaitalia]

Just my opinion...as not a great Daytona fan....but i think the Bird wing looks better on the Charger than the Daytona one. I like the extra rake it has.