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What's the real world value of my car?

Started by Dino, June 27, 2015, 10:24:48 AM

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Dino

Not planning to do anything drastic, but circumstances may force me to sell anyway.  It's too soon to tell but I should at least know what kind of money it would bring.

I'll try to get some pics up but you can do a search and find plenty here already.  Check the New wheels are on thread and the carpet installation thread.  You'll also find lots of pictures in the electrical section.  I'd repost them now but it's a pita to do with this tablet.

The car came from the factory as a white hat special, F8 in and out with a white top.  318, 904, pb, ps, a/c, light package, standard am radio.

It's now white with a black top, interior is stock apart from a new black carpet.  Engine is a 71 440 HP with a purple cam and headers, drum brakes are original but work fine.  I have a Wildwood front disc kit that was never installed.  8 3/4 rear with 3.23 gears.  The car would also come with a 2.96 and a 3.55 pumpkin.  

The trunk floor has been bad for years so the po repaired it with patch panels and some gooey stuff slathered all over it.  Not pretty, but it did the job.  I have a new 2 piece trunk floor to go with the car.

There are some spots on the lower rockers and quarters that are trying to push through the paint, but it's been like that for years and they don't seem to be getting worse even though I drive it rain or shine.  Body is pretty straight with only minor dings.  Grille is good, not perfect.  Spare grill with half the center section missing is included.

The electrical has been upgraded to run a bigger alt and I got rid of the fusible link and installed a maxi fuse with new wiring.  The ammeter has been replaced with a volt meter.  It has the heasdlight relay mod with halogen lights.  Interior lights are led and look awesome behind the blue lenses.   Everything can be returned to stock if needed.

Dash has a quartz upgraded clock.  It also comes with a quart upgraded tic toc tach, but I have yet to finish restoring it.

There's a 1 1/8" sway bar up front.  I have a 7/8" bar for the rear, never installed.  Shocks are Edelbrock IAS classics with about 1000 miles on them.

A/C was upgraded to run r134a and it blows ice cold.  Heater will bake you out of the car in winter.

The things that DON'T work are the ignition switch lamp and lamp warning buzzer.  They used to so I should be able to fix those.  One of the backup lights also quit on me, probably just the bulb.  The radio works but will cut out after a while.  No idea why but it's am so I never bothered to check.

The least springs are from a squad car and are really hard so they will be replaced with xhd springs.  A new gas tasnk is also going in.  Fuel lines and sender are new, fuel gauge reads accurate.

Interior is decent.  Good dash pads, decent upper pads but they do have small cracks.  Door panels are still nice, seat covers not so much.

I'm sure I forgot a ton so please ask for more info in this thread.

The car is a reliable daily driver and although it looks real nice, it's not a show car.

So what's the going rate for these things?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

ACUDANUT


Dino

Quote from: ACUDANUT on June 27, 2015, 10:28:43 AM
As much as you can get.  :shruggy:

Well sure, but I don't want to end up in the delusional seller thread, you guys go to town on those.   :lol:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

skip68

skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


F8-4life

I personally would not sell at under 25k. Try for 30k.

Mike DC

   
It it was black paint with a 440 it would be a lot more.  That 318 will drive the price down. 

Whatever the going rate is, IMO yours should be worth a few grand more than it looks on paper just because you have the thing really sorted out & driveable.  That's hard to convey/prove when you're selling online. 


myk


Dino

No no I'm not selling.  Merely trying to figure out the true value just in case.  At this moment I have no emergency fund.  Grad school is taking my last dime and if something happens and I need cash, then it's the car that has to go.  I don't have anything else of value.

So I'm just planning ahead a little.  I ould absolutely hate having to sell this car, but it is way more important for me to get through grad school and get that degree.  Once that's in the bag all will be fine and I'll be able to buy another Charger.

Mike it's not gonna be black but it does have the 440.  Of course it won't demand real r/t money but it should be more than a 318 car.

$25K is what I've been offered in the past so an asking price of $30K is probably a good idea.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

myk

Yeah you're right.  Like you, I'd hate to see that happen.  Let's pray that doesn't happen...

cbrestorations

with 2ng gen chargers its a seller market, as much as you can get for it really, 25k is about right but you never know, some guy may just have to have it and will pay more

70 sublime

You can always come down in price but it is hard to ask for more if it sells too fast :2thumbs:
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

ACUDANUT

Quote from: Dino on June 27, 2015, 01:12:40 PM
No no I'm not selling.  Merely trying to figure out the true value just in case.  At this moment I have no emergency fund.  Grad school is taking my last dime and if something happens and I need cash, then it's the car that has to go.  I don't have anything else of value.

So I'm just planning ahead a little.  I ould absolutely hate having to sell this car, but it is way more important for me to get through grad school and get that degree.  Once that's in the bag all will be fine and I'll be able to buy another Charger.

Mike it's not gonna be black but it does have the 440.  Of course it won't demand real r/t money but it should be more than a 318 car.

$25K is what I've been offered in the past so an asking price of $30K is probably a good idea.

Dino, I know you posted under dark, blues section. Please get help and don't sell your dream car. :2thumbs:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,96647.msg1471077.html#msg1471077

Challenger340

I'm think a little higher, closer to $35K asking.
Easier to come down than go up !

I wouldn't concentrate so much as what's "wrong" with it or what it needs as detractions.... so much as what it is "good", and what it would cost to replace the darn thing, if you had a change of heart and went looking again yourself ?

You can add that to just "what" it seems ? ..... the majority of wannabe's are looking for ?
That being... a good running driver that they can enjoy now,  and then put sweat equity into over time, even a 318 Car.

just my opinion....
Only wimps wear Bowties !

69CoronetRT

Sorry you are thinking about selling. That must be a tough thing to consider.
You did ask for thoughts. I'm not sure if you wanted a bunch of yes men to reply or other perspectives.
Based on what you've written and no inspection....
Guy looking at car says.....


Quote from: Dino on June 27, 2015, 10:24:48 AM


The car came from the factory as a white hat special, F8 in and out with a white top.  318, 904, pb, ps, a/c, light package, standard am radio.
It's now white with a black top, interior is stock apart from a new black carpet. :OK. It's a repaint and not matching color. I presume the body work was all done before he painted it. New carpet. Presume he fixed other interior issues too. Presume options are all fixed and correct. A/C working? Blowing cold? Updated to modern specs?" 

Engine is a 71 440 HP with a purple cam and headersHmmm. Ok engine swap and color change. No longer a numbers matching car. What was done to the engine? Who did it? When was it done? What components did they use? Any documentation? How was the car driven after the engine swap? Was this a solid build or a grenade waiting to explode? Was the A/C put back properly? Is the BP booster set correctly with the new engine?

, drum brakes are original but work fine."Fine". What does that mean? New shoes? Drums good?  
I have a Wildwood front disc kit that was never installed. How come? 

8 3/4 rear with 3.23 gears.  The car would also come with a 2.96 and a 3.55 pumpkin.Ok. No problem. Extra pumpkins a good thing. SG? Open rear end?  

The trunk floor has been bad for years so the po repaired it with patch panels and some gooey stuff slathered all over it.  Not pretty, but it did the job.  I have a new 2 piece trunk floor to go with the car.ewww.....I figured with the repaint he fixed the body. What else didn't he do to get the body right? Did he cut corners? How much of a hidden problem am I buying? Why didn't he fix this? This is now two things he 'just didn't get to..."

There are some spots on the lower rockers and quarters that are trying to push through the paint, but it's been like that for years and they don't seem to be getting worse even though I drive it rain or shine.  Body is pretty straight with only minor dings.  Grille is good, not perfect.  Spare grill with half the center section missing is included.ewwwww #2. More body rot. How bad is this thing? Perfumed pig? What the heck am I buying and how much more is thing gonna cost me?

The electrical has been upgraded to run a bigger alt and I got rid of the fusible link and installed a maxi fuse with new wiring.  The ammeter has been replaced with a volt meter.  It has the headlight relay mod with halogen lights.  Interior lights are led and look awesome behind the blue lenses.   Everything can be returned to stock if needed. OK. not a bad idea but this guy seems to be cutting corners. Was this a good job or is it a fire waiting to happen? Blue LEDs.... ewwwww #3. It will take me a significant amount of time to take them out and return it to stock. What other wiring gremlins am I going to encounter?

Dash has a quartz upgraded clock.  It also comes with a quart upgraded tic toc tach, but I have yet to finish restoring it. Again, not a bad idea but one more thing he was 'gonna get to' and didn't I will have to fix. I'm really starting to question what a money pit this car could be.

There's a 1 1/8" sway bar up front.  I have a 7/8" bar for the rear, never installed.   Another didn't get to. What else didn't this guy 'get to'?

Shocks are Edelbrock IAS classics with about 1000 miles on them. OK not a bad idea. He did one thing right.

A/C was upgraded to run r134a and it blows ice cold.  Heater will bake you out of the car in winter. OK good to know. Seems to work fine.

The things that DON'T work are the ignition switch lamp and lamp warning buzzer.  They used to so I should be able to fix those.  One of the backup lights also quit on me, probably just the bulb.  The radio works but will cut out after a while.  No idea why but it's am so I never bothered to check. More 'gonna get to'.

The leaf springs are from a squad car and are really hard so they will be replaced with xhd springs.  A new gas tasnk is also going in.  Fuel lines and sender are new, fuel gauge reads accurate. Good!

Interior is decent.  Good dash pads, decent upper pads but they do have small cracks.  Door panels are still nice, seat covers not so much. There's some significant money I'll have to spend.

I'm sure I forgot a ton so please ask for more info in this thread.

The car is a reliable daily driver and although it looks real nice, it's not a show car.

So what's the going rate for these things?

$35K? Thanks for your time. Good luck with the sale.


I get that you want a value based on what you 'are gonna get to' and not as it sits. However, until you 'get to' the things, then asking for a value is just a guessing game. We do not know if you 'get' to things or the quality of install if they are done.

IMHO even when you are done, $35K is extremely ambitious for a color change-engine swap-no body work done possible project or 'finish' for someone else.
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skip68

Kinda why I said $20K.    And I haven't seen it.  Dino, my $20,000 estimation is the low side or least that I believe it's worth.  
Most of the cars on this forum are on going projects that if sold would come with parts and things not complete or done yet.   That's a non issue because you're not selling a complete restored car or even advertising it as so.    If you find yourself having to educate a buyer of this fact and that's why the car is priced accordingly he's most likely not a qualified buyer.  It happens.   Selling does sting a little but quickly goes away and your on to other things.  I sold mine several years ago and it actually didn't bother me at all when I first sold it.   Kinda weird but my wife was more upset than I was.   I've vowed to get another one someday and I will.  Just not today.  

I'm thinking you're going to be in the $22k to $24k range.   IMO.  
You'll get a better estimate if you post pictures.   Mostly of the areas that need attention.    :2thumbs:
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


Dino

Coronet I get where you're coming from but this is not an ad.  The car would not be sold as is, those little things would be fixed, I just can't be bothered with it right now.  Still, thanks for posting that because I do need to see this from others' points of view.  :2thumbs:   I personally could not care less about original color, engine or if it's an R/T.  I'm the guy that declined 4 R/T's because I don't want one.  I want a mutt and nothing else.  Of course I'm the exception, in this country at least, they don't care much overseas.

Even though it is not a perfect car, it's not a project car or something that needs to be finished. It's a ready to run car, it's just not restored.  I thought $25 wouild be a good ballpark figure and I guess I was right; since posting this I've been contacted by 6 people.  Highest offer is from Europe which is $29K.  The others are all around $25 so I guess I have my answer.

For others reading this, once more, the car is not for sale at this time and hopefully will never be.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

1974dodgecharger

Quote from: Dino on June 27, 2015, 10:30:13 AM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on June 27, 2015, 10:28:43 AM
As much as you can get.  :shruggy:

Well sure, but I don't want to end up in the delusional seller thread, you guys go to town on those.   :lol:

don't worry about US dino, lmao.....just ask a high price we all do it to be honest.....