storage fees rack up on this charger

[cbrestorations]

this r/t charger has been sitting inside this self serve storage unit in the same spot since 1985, pretty cool to check it out. its a friend of a friends brother who parked it and has been paying storage fees for 30 years at $60 a month, was probly $30 when it was first put in there but still it adds up alot, gonna damn near break even when it sells lol.

[VegasCharger]

WOW 30 years! Let's just say for the benefit of doubt that storage started at $30/mo. and now $60/mo. then let's average that to $45/mo. x 30 years = $16,200

Yep, it being an R/T and clean sheet metal you're probably just about right.

Is that local here in Vegas Chris or in Cali?

[cbrestorations]

the car was supposedly bought new here in vegas but if it wasnt it sure spent most of its life sitting in the same spot here for 30 years

[dual fours]

Should the hood pins be in back of the rubber hood bumper, like behind them?
Not in front of them.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Wow, that's in bad shape now. Wonder how it looked when parked? 


Here's a question, would you pay to park your classic/collector car? And if so, what's your cost threshold for a space? 

And would you be more inclined to "visit" your car if the parking storage was structured like a "clubroom" type of atmosphere? 
There are places which are like that. Several hundred/mo. + club fees. But have some decent perks, and a place to get away...

[69rtse4spd]

Get the vin for the 70 registry, & more Pict's if you can & if he will let you. Nice clean sheet metal as said before but what's been living inside, if anything. .

[sdweatherman]

WOW 30 years! Let's just say for the benefit of doubt that storage started at $30/mo. and now $60/mo. then let's average that to $45/mo. x 30 years = $16,200

Yep, it being an R/T and clean sheet metal you're probably just about right.

Is that local here in Vegas Chris or in Cali?

Storage facilities like that are such a money sucker - they should only be used for very short term situations until a more permanent solution can be figured out. Here is an eye opener for those that have not pondered on this:

Say the monthly fee was $30 in 1985. Now it is $60. So it has gone up $1 a year over the past 30 years. Like VegasCharger said - $16K in money just gone.

How about we step it up a notch - Take that same amount of cash that was given to the storage facility, and invest it in good ole American stock. Starting with $30 a month in 1985, $31 a month in 1986, $32 a month in 1987 etc etc - for the last 30 years - he would now have a little over $100K to spend on a damn nice already done 1970 Charger R/T!

My father-in-law has been doing this for the last 30 years also - except he doesn't even have a nice restorable car in storage. He has boxes of books, old farm tools, furniture from the 80s, and other boxes of worthless junk in his storage bin. 

[super77se]

what a shame, let me guess , they are going to fix it up one day....

[ws23rt]

One would think that when the owner put it in storage they were not thinking 30 years

It's just another example of procrastination. And doing nothing is not free.  Also what's up with the outside storage? That could be free in anyone's back yard.

[Baldwinvette77]

Thats pretty cool, but i still wonder why he stored it, and never drove it 

[HANDM]

Reminds me of a storage lot in everett Wa, there is/ was two 53 corvettes or whats left of them, one a regular joe hardtop and the other a convertible race/ drag car with a full cage sitting uncovered and completely wasted. The hardtop was in a little better shape but when I tried to open either door they literally came off in my hand, and this was ten or more years ago......

[ACUDANUT]

The storage lot has made bank on this car.

[myk]

Thats pretty cool, but i still wonder why he stored it, and never drove it 

Because SOMEDAY...

[Cncguy]

Guess he could have stored it outside.

[myk]

The result would've been the same: a neglected car...

[70 sublime]

Guess he could have stored it outside.

Looks like it was stored outside in the very spot it is in the picture by the tires sunk in the gravel and no tracks getting there

[ikbrown]

Thats pretty cool, but i still wonder why he stored it, and never drove it 

Because SOMEDAY...

Yup! Always the story with people that store their cars or just keep them sitting in their yard. My buddy and I used to drive around in high school searching for hidden muscle cars that we could knock on doors to chat with the owners (back when gas was cheap enough not to feel bad for just cruising around. ha) and that's always the storyline. 'I'm going to get to it one of these days' 'I have plans for it' 'saving up for the restoration'. poor neglected cars.

Ironically, after saving a 400HO from one of those owners my friend has sort of become that person.  He hasn't been in CA for a couple years while he's been gone his 400HO and 1980 3 series have both been sitting outside waiting for him to move back and work on them. Poor things are getting worse by the year.

[wingcar]

And, he couldn't even pony-up for a car cover?    Of course by this time the car cover would look worst than the car...sad.  Looks like it was a nice Charger when parked....

[ACUDANUT]

I bet that interior is 100 percent gone.

[Dodge Don]

this r/t charger has been sitting inside this self serve storage unit in the same spot since 1985, pretty cool to check it out. its a friend of a friends brother who parked it and has been paying storage fees for 30 years at $60 a month, was probly $30 when it was first put in there but still it adds up alot, gonna damn near break even when it sells lol.

Please register the car with the 70 Charger Registry....who knows I may have paperwork/info on this car for the owner.

http://1970chargerregistry.com/

[dual fours]

Looks like the manifold and carburation is missing, bet it was a six pack, who'd want the 4 bbl. and manifold anyway?
How easy is it to remove that R/T emblem on the door, with the scoop on the door?

[Cncguy]

Looks like the manifold and carburation is missing, bet it was a six pack, who'd want the 4 bbl. and manifold anyway?
How easy is it to remove that R/T emblem on the door, with it on the door?
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You have to remove the scoop to get the RT emblem off.

[F8-4life]

http://merced.craigslist.org/cto/5080855404.html

[70 sublime]

if you are looking at this you know what it is and what they are worth...its a true 1970 r/t XS29 dodge charger numbers matching 440/727 with 3.23 rear 489 case posi diff, a/c, power steering, power brakes. the charger has been sitting in storage since 1985, yes 30 years out in the desert sun. she was an original f4 green metallic paint with vinyl top. the car has since been painted red before parked and top has gone to shit. since it was a vinyl top car it does need a roof skin to be done correctly, rear glass channel is fine, other rust spots are center trunk and lower rear quarters, not bad but do have to mention it, it is a desert car so dont expect a rust bucket. before she was parked the engine had a mild performance rebuild with cam, springs, valve work, new bearings, ring and pump but only ran for 500 miles before being stored. since being in storage the intake manifold, carb and air cleaner have been stolen, so those are missing. i do have the fan shroud and front headlight doors that are missing in the pics, also all of the original 15" rally wheels go with. the hood has the optioned turn signal indicators. the interior will need a complete restoration, it is an original wood grain dash car and original radio
does come with it too.
price is 19k and that is firm. clean original pink slip from 1985
email for more info
reson for posting this in merced is that i travel there frequently and could bring her for $200

[skip68]

$200 delivery is a good deal.    Not really convinced on price but I think that would be a great car to have.  Matching numbers rt in unrestored condition is becoming very hard to find.   

[ACUDANUT]

What does this mean "reson for posting this in merced is that i travel there frequently and could bring her for $200  " merced ?? What or where is that ?

Bring the car where ?

[GOTWING]

 

[cbrestorations]

merced is a town in california, that is where he add is posted

[cbrestorations]

well the car has been purchased by a friend of mine, i have come to help get her running and driving for him. the previous owner said the engine had a performance rebuilt with only 500 miles before she was parked for 30 years in that storage unit, why did he park it...well i found the dash harness fried and it turned into a "ill get to it eventually type fix". he didnt lie when he said the engine was fresh. the performance intake and carb were stolen off the charger during its 30 year imprisonment so i just slapped a stock intake and demon on it for now, when i removed the valley pan the engine was super clean, fresh build with ported original 906 heads, the engine is numbers matching 440hp2 with matching 727 behind it. after fixing a few wiring issues, new fuel pump, new wires and installing a new ignition module she fired right up, no smoke, just a lopey purr and not even any leaks. i ordered a new gas tank, sending unit and seals to replace the old tank, obviously he didnt drain the tank and it was eatin up. i pulled the grill to fix a few broken pieces. hoping to get her burnin rubber by monday. just gotta go thru the brakes and new fuel line.

[VegasCharger]

Great story Chris

Is your friend and Charger here in Las Vegas? Like to come by and check it out, also to catch up with your projects.

Great job updating the 70 Charger here on DC.com and helping out your friend

[tan top]

 

[cbrestorations]

the car is at the shop you went to awhile back to meet with me about your blue 70. my chargers are sitting except my 69 roadrace car is at the frame shop gettin the front clip straightened still.

[myk]

Wow good job CB.  May the piston gods grant favor upon you...

[TPR]

Good to hear about it's impending resurrection.

TPR

[cbrestorations]

the guy paid $50 a month for the first 15 years and then 60 for the remaining 15 years.  so he had $19,800 in storage fees...

[rt green]

so doing the math he basically broke even on storage and gave the car away.

[70 sublime]

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/5131347254.html

1970 dodge charger r/t
this charger is a running driving american muscle car with its original numbers matching drivetrain. she sounds good and burns rubber as it did 45 years ago. now it is a project car and still needs restoration work.
heres the story on the car...it was previously owned by your typical teenage muscle car guy who wanted to eliminated the a/c, put higher rear gear instead of the freeway flier, headers and had a performance engine built by a machine shop back in 1984. since the engine was built it only had 500 miles on it before the dash harness fried and the car was put in storage sometime in 1984. well...the car sat there for 30 years and was finally pulled out. the original intake manifold and carburetor were stolen while in storage so another factory intake with a demon carburetor was installed to get running. the engine was just as clean internally as it was when it was parked over 30 years ago and with only 500 miles on it still. she runs smooth with a mild performance camshaft muscle car lope to it, no smoke or leaks.
heres a quick breakdown of the goods and bads...
goods...
clean title
real xs29 charger
rebuilt numbers matching 440hp2
fender tag still intact
original 15" rally wheels
original tic toc tach dash
woodgrain dash
bucket seats
hood mounted turn signals
a/c, power steering, power brakes car
very little rust, nevada desert car, but did sit outside for 30 years
new gas tank and sending unit
new fuel pump
demon carburetor
new msd wires
new ignition module and distributor pickup
still have original fan and shroud
i have the front grill and headlight doors, it was just not installed while pictured
good tires

the bads...
needs center trunk pan
needs roof skin (was vinyl top)
missing a/c system under hood
needs dash wiring harness
trunk lid has a damage

all work that needs done can be completed here at our restoration shop or take her home
price is $23,000 please do not waste my time or your, it is a running and driving 1970 r/t numbers matching dodge charger.

[skip68]

That'd be a nice car to have.   

[cbrestorations]

hopefully he sells it quick, i get a fews $$$ for helping him get it running and driving again. i could use that toward my hoopty chargers lol

[ACUDANUT]

so doing the math he basically broke even on storage and gave the car away.

Sounds like he lost at least 30K on it, if the new owner bought it for   15-18K
Didn't someone add up the storage cost to be around 60K for 30 years ?  

[1974dodgecharger]

does it come with title at all?  Usually original owner keeps title and impounder keeps car.

[cbrestorations]

yea it has title

[cbrestorations]

i found the wheel bearings shot on the right front, so those should come in tomorrow. then im going to weld in some new header collectors becasue the old ones are warped and has an exhaust leak that just pesters the hell out of me. once thats fixed then its time to sneak it onto the speedway for a few laps and burn some tires off for an ebay video lol

[cbrestorations]

didnt get the exhaust fixed yet but wanted to take it out for her test drive in 30 years, the demon carb would only work with the primaries, soon as cracked the secondaries open it would pop, fart and hicup so its gettin a holley tomorrow aswell as welding in new header collectors. still lights tire up easy with just primaries lol. attached is quick youtube videos


taking it to the circle track for cooler videos tomorrow, wanna get a full corner drift.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItRSMOU3j5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt_afUZPZFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7DGdSqBhxs

[Baldwinvette77]

Awesome.. Just awesome

[Lord Warlock]

Many neighborhoods don't allow non running cars sitting in driveways, at least visible from the street.  My city will ticket you and eventually haul cars off if they aren't drivable cars.  So storage is the only choice sometimes, and yes storage costs, especially over long times.  That's why I built a 2nd garage in the backyard, but I spent 30k to store a charger that had spent years in the attached garage, then moved to a quanset hut tent in the backyard that lasted 10 years before it rotted the plastic covering, and moved to attached garage for another few years until I built the 2nd garage.  You have to be able to justify the cost of new structures, using a storage shed was actually cheaper than building a garage was, but I get to sit out there and watch cable tv, with ac when needed, and it isn't several miles away...no one is going to steal parts. 

Looked like a decent price for a solid foundation for a build, a rebuilt motor is a benefit.

[ACUDANUT]

so doing the math he basically broke even on storage and gave the car away.

Sounds like he lost at least 30K on it, if the new owner bought it for   15-18K
Didn't someone add up the storage cost to be around 60K for 30 years ?  

[cbrestorations]

she was ordered with a 2.76 open diff rear. must of been someones freeway flyer that just wanted the big engine for a passing gear lol. gonna try and get some good drifting video tomorrow at the speedway. gotta have fun with these cars...
just gotta replace the accelerator pump on this holley and its good to go, came off our old nascar craftsman truck from 1997 lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mBvHQAgc68&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPDF5VJi_SU&feature=youtu.be

[six-tee-nine]

didnt get the exhaust fixed yet but wanted to take it out for her test drive in 30 years, the demon carb would only work with the primaries, soon as cracked the secondaries open it would pop, fart and hicup so its gettin a holley tomorrow aswell as welding in new header collectors. still lights tire up easy with just primaries lol. attached is quick youtube videos


taking it to the circle track for cooler videos tomorrow, wanna get a full corner drift.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItRSMOU3j5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt_afUZPZFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7DGdSqBhxs

Now thats what I call a surviver

[ACUDANUT]

 "drifting" in a 4k pound vehicle ?

[cbrestorations]

someone left the gate open to the speedway...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dxXiD_tABs&feature=youtu.be

[skip68]

Yah baby.   

[tan top]

     

[cbrestorations]

i didnt beat on it hard...not my car but still had fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn9owph0s4Q&feature=youtu.be

[GOTWING]

here she is place your bid 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181812962298?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

tan top in 3...2...1... 

[cbrestorations]

it actually just sold, outside of ebay for 23k. a guy called and said if its the same car, nothing changed from what was in the video he will take it, came and looked at it that day from 400 miles away and handed over the cash, i got 2k for helping get it running.

[tan top]

here she is place your bid  

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181812962298?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

tan top in 3...2...1...  

       

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[Homerr]

You da man tan top!

[1974dodgecharger]

23k really?  What am I missing here?  All original?  Or did charger prices jump again?

How can I get a track all to myself?  If I come to Vegas?

[cbrestorations]

yea it was all numbers matching, gate was open...

[charger_fan_4ever]

A rusty hulk needs lots of time and 10k in sheet metal ask me how i know lol
This car just needs the time and a couple patch panels.

Original drivetrain ready to go. Not a way off price.