whats an old holley worth?

[Lord Warlock]

As the charger starts getting near the finish line, I'm realizing there are some items I've been storing that may no longer be necessary, and to make room I'll probably try to sell off the spare parts.  One item in particular, an old Holley 600cfm vacuum secondary carburetor that has been on the shelf now since 1980, I've checked the numbers on it and it came back as a 600cfm vacuum secondary with manual choke, never looked for the choke so can't say for sure, but it has the linkage to hook up to a mopar if needed.  When I got it, it was used, I never used it since the charger's carter was a 625cfm.  Still looks green externally. It looks to be in good shape, just a little dusty.  Any idea what they are worth?  Back in the 70s  they probably cost about 100 bucks, today they go for 300 or more new, but what is an old carb that has been stored in dry storage for 40 years worth? Primaries move fine via linkage, doesn't seem to bind.

numbers on air horn are:

C3AE - 1510-B
LIST-2665
8B2

And yes, I'll probably list in the classifieds once I figure if its worth selling or tossing.

Same question applies to the Mallory dual point distributor for a 383.  Not sure why I held on to this for so long, only had a 383 for a couple years. Looks great inside, points aren't stuck.

[Lord Warlock]

Have pictures in phone, will have to edit them to resize before posting.

[scratchinfotraction]

I have started collecting them to hang on the wall in the shop.

sounds like a basic mopar 600 cfm 4 barrel. like a small 1850-3 holley.

if in working order at least 100 bux I would say. see lots of junk looking ones on ebay for a lot more. but that also depends on what list # it is.

and with a few upgrades/rebuild kit that little carb would make a nice street carb.

if it is a 4160 model it has a meter plate on the back, upgrade from a 4160 to a 4150 model with a meter block/jets on the back side. about 60$

add a QF adjustable vac pod to tune the 2ndary opening rate with a screw and not a pod tear down/spring change. about 30$

very easy to tune to a stockish/mild engine. they are know as a "RV" carb but perform just as well as a performance holley when tune/jet correctly. used for less than 200$ with upgrades is a deal.

I just did a small 1850 this way and have less than 150$ in it.

[Lord Warlock]

Here are a few photos of it.  what amazes me about this one is how well it survived the years, the Carter AVS seen in one of the photos didn't fare near as well, and it was on the car for about half of its storage life, I didn't put a new carb on till about 5 years ago.  Even the linkage doesn't show much rust if any the carter linkage is rusty, and primaries open very fluidly.  To me it looks like it came off my garage shelf 40 years ago.  cleaned the dust off of it after this photo was taken,

[John_Kunkel]

I've checked the numbers on it and it came back as a 600cfm vacuum secondary with manual choke,

The Holley master catalog shows no 2665. All Mopar 4160 Holleys had divorced chokes.

[Lord Warlock]

As long as I've had it, I've never tried to mess with it or take it apart...probably a good thing.  Would think seals or gaskets may need refreshing, but its linkage and primaries open like they were new.  I believe it came on a 383 I bought at a salvage yard, I wouldn't have bought a smaller cfm carb otherwise.

I've got a picture of the number stamp, maybe I misread it.  I'll post it up shortly.
Last digit of List number is an 8 not a 5.  And the first 1 in 1510 may be a 3, but I'm having problems making it out. My eyesight sucks  I just uploaded it so I'm linking it below. 

[Lord Warlock]

looks like a 4160 going by the LIST number, but shows it came in 57-64 fords.

[Charger RT]

C3 is 1963 in ford land
Tim

[Lord Warlock]

Now only if this carb was a 63 cobra carb it may be worth something...otherwise doesn't look promising.  ebay had plenty of 600s at 50 bucks.  Hard to believe its that old though, hard to tell by looks.  It would mean the carb was 16 years old when I got it at 17.

[John_Kunkel]

2668 is from a '63-'64 Ford/Merc 427 Hi-Po. Might be a desirable piece for the Phord crowd.

[Lord Warlock]

If its a 427 carburetor, it may be worth keeping as a momento, always wanted a 427 ford, just wanted it in a cobra body and never could afford one.  Still can't.  But I can afford one of their two carbs.  It does look similar to a carb on a 427 ford, looks like it normally came in pairs though.  Don't know how a big block ford carb ended up in my hands, my dad had a 67 galaxy 428 for a short time but it was all together.  Had its own carb(s).

In any case, now I at least know what it was from originally, and it could be worth something to the right person.  It has the diaphragm for the choke so its probably vacuum powered, no electric connections. and it isn't the vac secondary pod.

[John_Kunkel]

It is vacuum secondary and the choke uses heated air from the exhaust, not electric.

[WAKEY]

Found it on www.mustangtek.com
C3AE-9510-B

Holley list 2668

Confirmed Application. Information has been double checked with at least a second source 63-64 427 Ford & Merc HiPerf

427

4V

Metering 3903/3814

[Lord Warlock]

thanks for the confirmation.  Not sure what I'll do with it now, there's always a chance I'll get a cobra kit car with a 427 in it, slim, but a chance, as I'd liquidate a few toys for that one.  But a 427 cobra, I believe wasn't built until 66, and no 427 was installed in a mustang till the 67 model where a few went in Shelby's before the 428 replaced it.  Most likely a thunderbolt carb.  Guess it could be an over the counter holley bought for a different purpose, but at least I know it came from a motor I deem as capable. 

[scratchinfotraction]

looks like a 4160 going by the LIST number, but shows it came in 57-64 fords.

looks to be a 4150 model with the rear meter BLOCK and not a 4160 with metering plate. (makes it a tad smaller bowl to bowl)

rare duck as 57 ford was the first one to use a holley modular style carb.

antique if nothing else. dip it, kit it, hang it on a wall for art.

[John_Kunkel]

Optical illusion...the rear bowl has a raised flange that looks like a metering block. No 4150's had the inboard connecting fuel line between the bowls.

[scratchinfotraction]

Optical illusion...the rear bowl has a raised flange that looks like a metering block. No 4150's had the inboard connecting fuel line between the bowls.

I would beg to differ John, looking at the top pic you can see it has a meter block. the 2 parting lines-body/bowl and the 4 plugs across the top of the meter block.

maybe it has had a conversion at some point in its life. that comes with the longer transfer tube along with the meter block.

I did this to my model 4160/list-1850-3 600cfm converting it to a 4150 Vac 2ndary

1957-2015 is a long time and most likely more than a couple rebuilds.

[John_Kunkel]

You're right, the master catalog lists it as a 4150 and the fuel line connecting the bowls is factory.