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Help decided between 2 cars

Started by MyMopar, August 09, 2005, 02:20:21 PM

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MyMopar

I have a question that I can't seem to find any performance data to answer it.
Here it is, I like performance and am considering a newer car.  Of ONLY these 2 which would you buy performance wise. I now it isn't apples to apples and will probably get some people going but put your feelings aside and think about it honestly.

A Supercharged Crossfire (supposedly 330 hp)

or

A 6.1 liter Hemi Charger

Like I sadi it isn't apples to apples, but which do you think will perform better on road (ie faster).

Old Moparz

I understand the apples & oranges thing, but what do you want the car for? That is the biggest factor I'd say. Do you need it for more than a 2 seater? Is it just going to be a toy for one?
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MyMopar

I don't need 4 doors and I don't need more than 2 seats.  I just want one with some performance.  I'm thinking the 6.1 liter hemi chrger will kick ass but then again a supercharged 3.2 liter in the Crossfire may make up for the loss of cubic inches.  I really can't find any performance data, like 0-60 times, 1/4 mile times 0-100-0 times things like that.  I could have sworn though that I read an article that said the 6.1 liter hemi would do 0-60 in under 5 seconds.

Old Moparz

If you aren't worried about MPG, then the 6.1 could be fun, but if MPG is a concern, than maybe the Crossfire would be better. I'm guessing MPG isn't an issue though.   :D   Best thing is to go drive them to see which you like best because you'll have to live with it, nobody else. But since you asked for opinions, here's mine without bashing either car. I'd drive both to be sure, but I have a feeling the 6.1 might win out. A rear wheel drive V8 has always been a favorite of mine.

(I really like the 300 quite a bit, & there is supposed to be a 6.1 available too btw.)
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SirNik73

I haven't seen the new charger in side and out, but last year i did look at the 300C and the Magnum at the Sacramento auto show. the chrysler was pretty much the same car as the magnum, only the inside was much nicer. i'm sure you can order the nicer intreior on the dodge, but the nicer stuff comes standard on the chrysler. i like the headlights on the charger better then the headlights on the 300, but i love the classical look of the chrysler dash. i would think that the crossfire has the same classical style then it come to the instrmentation as the 300C. i think that if i had the chance to choose a new dodge/chrysler car i would probalby choose ether a Chrossfire Supercharged SRT6 or the 300C SRT8 with the 6.1L. i'm not imptessed with the over use of plastic in the dodge intreiors these days, but if you don't mind the plastic or can order the nicer leahter and wood intreior, and are willign to put up with the ribbing you're gonna get from buying a new charger then, maybe the charger is a good choice.
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Charger.  Crossfire has too cramped of an interior, for my tastes.  Although, a Crossfire ragtop wouldn't be so cramped.....
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Brock Samson

seems like a pretty straighforward choice to me...

  The cross fire will handle alot better and   fit you like a glove,.. waaay too tight for me,. I like room...

The SRT-8 Charger what you call the 6.1 hemi... will offer a decent amount of space for you and up to three passengers...
and burn the hides of the tires...   I'd prolly go with the the Chysler 300 C SRT-8 myself,... If ya need even more room the Magnum station wagon comes in a SRT-8 Version too,..
  I agree about the interior too, It's   just plain,... They make a wood kit, for it though,... even so i still find it looks 'el strippo to my eye...
here's a link to a wooded intereior...

http://www.727auctions.com/727ebay/whitedub_big/DSC00144.JPG

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Drache

Listen here, if you want performance go for a Dodge Stealth R/T! I drove one with factory Twin Turbos and you can smoke the rear tires of that thing from here to christmas and back!
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MoparYoungGun

Take each of the cars for a test drive and then decide. That is the best way to decide which car you like better. Good luck with your decision :cheers: !

Brock Samson

SRT-8s arn't due till fall, Sept. I was told,. the Crossfires are all over the place..

Old Moparz

Quote from: Drache on August 09, 2005, 08:09:47 PM
Listen here, if you want performance go for a Dodge Stealth R/T! I drove one with factory Twin Turbos and you can smoke the rear tires of that thing from here to christmas and back!

They still make those?
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Drache

Quote from: Old Moparz on August 09, 2005, 10:57:08 PM
Quote from: Drache on August 09, 2005, 08:09:47 PM
Listen here, if you want performance go for a Dodge Stealth R/T! I drove one with factory Twin Turbos and you can smoke the rear tires of that thing from here to christmas and back!

They still make those?

They stopped in '96/'97 but I haven't really found a car from the factory as fast as these besides new camaros and corvettes... oh and some of that ricer crap!
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Quote from: Drache on August 09, 2005, 08:09:47 PM
Listen here, if you want performance go for a Dodge Stealth R/T! I drove one with factory Twin Turbos and you can smoke the rear tires of that thing from here to christmas and back!

Those are also cramped.  And, a right pain in the ass to work on, I'm told.
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Drache

Quote from: Ghost on August 09, 2005, 11:16:47 PM
Quote from: Drache on August 09, 2005, 08:09:47 PM
Listen here, if you want performance go for a Dodge Stealth R/T! I drove one with factory Twin Turbos and you can smoke the rear tires of that thing from here to christmas and back!

Those are also cramped.   And, a right pain in the ass to work on, I'm told.

Hard to work on yes due to the twin turbos but not cramped. The front seats a pretty spacious and the back... well they are fair sized, not as BIG as the NEW CHARGER!
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If you are bigger guy forget about Crossfire. I had a chance to test of standard model (or better to say I had intention to do the test), but since I'm 6'6'' there was no way to fit inside.
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Ghoste

Crossfire, if only to show Chrysler there is a market for two doors? 

lumpy

I would go with a Magnum SRT8, that's just me. Looks and styling are better, and recent mag issue tested one running 13 sec. qtr. mile :o On a different note, just saw this picture. What exactly are they trying to show here? The differences between the two? How the new Daytona looks NOTHING like the old one??

MyMopar

Thank you for the replies.  I guess I'm more confuesed than before but we'll see after the test drives.

My wife mentioned the Dodge Stealth to me, but they are a pain to perform maintenance on and the amount of upgrades are just too tempting, don't want to take away from the real Charger budget.

The magnums are nice but they are too big.

I have a 300 M and like the performance, but want more.  Maybe the 300C is in the future for me, but that car just seems too big also, like the Charger.

I guess I'll see how well I fit in the Crossfire, I'm not 6'6" but I don't like feeling cramped. 

I also like to be sure I can see out of the car and the smaller windows in all models worries me.

Maybe I'll just skip the whole car thing and p/u a nice Challenger and with the left over money (if any) get some real  nice parts for the Charger. :icon_smile_big:

Old Moparz

No visibility issue in a Crossfire ragtop.  :icon_smile_big:
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Silver R/T

I would go with crossfire, I dont care if 'charger' might be a lil faster supposedly but its a turd, I wouldnt drive one unless I was older gentleman in 50's with family
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SirNik73

The Challenger idea sounds best to me! put a 5 speed in it and you'll have the nice lines and the driveability of those new cars.
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Brock Samson

i agree if i were you and i had the budget those cars are gonna cost,.. approx. $ 40 K i'd getta Chally four speed with a BB..  :yesnod:

so, if you haven't been in the crossfire, or the SRT-8,... why would you even concider them?..

a fellow M owner...

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Brock Samson

  What exactly is your problem with mustangs?..

Had I found found a stripped shelby instead of a charger, this...

                                                  http://www.cars-on-line.com/20272.html

would be in my garage now... cause for me it was a toss up between one of them and what I have.

I'm perfectly happy the way it turned out though, really...  :icon_smile:

MyMopar

Strat that's a nice 99M. I have enjoyed my 300M for quite some time and I have been in a Crossfire when they first came out.  I was actually going to buy one instead of my 300M, but I felt for the price and performance, they didn't match up.  I have seen some performance data on the would be Charger SRT-8 and was impressed.  I just don't like the fact that it is called Charger so it would be tough to get over that one.
I was thinking, I could get the Crossfire and put on one of my Charger scripts, really confuse people. :icon_smile_big:
We'll see, I have spotted a few nice Chally's on Hemmingsmotornews, going around $25k.

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SirNik73

if you are looking between a challenger and a crossfire.. remember that the challenger will do nothing but go up in value and the crossfire will do nothing be deprecate for quite some time.
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SeattleCharger

If I was choosing on performance, I would go with the 6.1 liter over the 3.2 liter based soley on the displacement of the engine.   Even if the horsepower is the same, the 6.1 liter will have more torque, low end, and will drive better and sound better and be a more solid feel.   Winding out a 3.2 liter that gets its power in the higher rpm's would feel more, well, cheap.   You can't beat the bigger engine for the way it drives.   The feel of the car, you know?   Having a hard time trying to describe what I mean.  

  :drive:


Why would you want anything else?  Just give me a Charger and I'll be happy.

Silver R/T

Quote from: Stratocharger on August 10, 2005, 01:48:24 PM
What exactly is your problem with mustangs?..

Had I found found a stripped shelby instead of a charger, this...

http://www.cars-on-line.com/20272.html

would be in my garage now... cause for me it was a toss up between one of them and what I have.

I'm perfectly happy the way it turned out though, really... :icon_smile:

exactly, I wouldnt mind 67 shelby black with red stripes BAD ASS
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MyMopar

Well I took some test drives and decided...

to skip the new car idea all together and look into a Challenger.  My 300M is fine enough for me and a Chally would be a nice addition to the garage. 

Brock Samson


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If you HAD to pick one of them, then get the Charger in that awesome black that they featured in that Motor Trend issue last month.  Despite it's sacreligous existence, it's a solid car, no matter what anyone says...

Ghoste

You made the right choice.  DCX had a couple of those new family cars at the Nats on the weekend for some kind of test drive program (if you call idling around the pits a test drive) and the more I looked at it, the more puzzled I became.  It may be fast but it just looks like a big bland family car to me.  Why they call it Charger is beyond me, they should have called it Intrepid.

hemihead

If it were me choosing between the Crossfire and that Dodge Creed , I would most definately take the Crossfire.It's better designed and built.It will also outrun and out handle that Nazi Yuppie mobile all day.  :yesnod:
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Silver R/T

Quote from: hemihead on August 16, 2005, 10:04:39 AM
If it were me choosing between the Crossfire and that Dodge Creed , I would most definately take the Crossfire.It's better designed and built.It will also outrun and out handle that Nazi Yuppie mobile all day. :yesnod:

and get better fuel mpg with todays 2.50+ gallon
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   Can someone post a pic of a Crossfire?  Thanks.


Why would you want anything else?  Just give me a Charger and I'll be happy.

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