Any cars out there hiding yet?

[h76]

Just wondering if you guys think there are many people out there yet with stashes of cars that are in " hiding". With all our technology and electronic devices now, seems like people are having harder time keeping cars under wraps.

[myk]

Maybe not just hiding, but just not "present."  For example, I've passed by many 1st and 2nd 'Gen Chargers on the roads, seen them in parking lots, and even in repair shops over the years that aren't on this site or any others, from what I can tell.  Either these owners prefer anonymity or just don't care to be part of this particular or any community.  Who knows?  No matter how far technology advances we'll NEVER find ALL of them; part of me thinks it's better this way, anyway.  I know I wish that I could be hidden too, from time to time...

[Baldwinvette77]

theres a guy around the corner from my house with a 68 charger thats been there since 2005 and i just found out about it a week ago, and around the block in the other direction is a 71 charger, thats been behind the garage even longer.... Not all charger owners are on this forum 

[myk]

There's a local guy in town with a VERY nice '67/Hemi who always gets invited to any car events that involve the San Diego Mopars club, and 99% he will participate in the events, but he NEVER joins or seeks to be officially affiliated with the club or anyone else.  I asked him if it was a matter of having to pay dues, learn stupid hand shakes or anything like that, and the answer was "no, that's just not my thing."  Again, some people aren't necessarily hidden, they just don't want to be too "public" about their cars and their lives...

[chargerman69]

I know of a couple places with cars hidden away not to see the open road again, They just don't want put the time in them so in the back of the barn they go

[Mark H]

A 69 charger RT not to far from me hopefully I can buy it eventually

[Lord Warlock]

I'm absolutely sure there are plenty of hide-a-way cars out there, and they will surface as people my age start to realize they aren't going to do anything with them and have to move them out.  Mine's been hidden for almost 40 years now, and might see road time if I can figure out how to dispose of two other cars first. 

[Barfyspitz]

It's a fact there is. I know of several hiding in a grove of trees in the back of a field. Owner won't sell any of them. Other Mopars are there too.

[Ghoste]

There are LOTS of cars out there yet that are hiding.

[Challenger340]

There are LOTS of cars out there yet that are hiding.

This FACT I believe today,(having stumbled onto mine), far more than anyone could have convinced me of 3 years ago.

The reasons why are as varied as the human population itself, nonetheless, they ARE out there.... in garages, in barns, behind sheds, warehouses, where-ever and for whatever reason... they will continue to be discovered from nowhere for years to come.

[HANDM]

A local Friend has over 36 (his number) ultra rare Mopars that he NEVER shows. I've seen personally, a gold/ black 69 Charger R/T, a 69 triple black hemi road runner and a 58 plymouth fury convertible.  In his drive way right now is a 68 Dart GT Convertible and a 72 Charger Rallye....

He's promised a full tour but I have yet to take him up on it and I've know him for over twenty years....LOL!

Pretty sure he's a lurker here as I tell him about us regularly

[Ryan.C]

I know of a few cars that are intentionally hidden from the car community. I think its just a personality quirk some people are very private.
the highlights....
-'69 Daytona
-'66 HEMI belvedere
-'70 440 6pack R/T S/E Challeger

These cars are complete but in need of total restorations. I have tried to buy a couple but they are absolutely NOT for sale.

[Ghoste]

And no matter what we think, the entire world is NOT wired together by cell phone and personal computers.

[472 R/T SE]

And no matter what we think, the entire world is NOT wired together by cell phone and personal computers.

Not too long ago we'd snail mail Hemmings Motor News to sell our prized possessions.  You send it off & hope that it got listed in latest edition.  I remember waiting 2 months for something of mine to show up for sale.

What'd we have?  Hemmings & local newspaper ads to sell our hot rods/parts.  Not sure when the Auto Trader came out but I remember purchasing a pile of 'em.

Now we can list something on ebay & have it sold with money in your account all in a half day's time.   

[Ghoste]

For sure Mike, in fact I still have a box of clipping from the Auto Trader from about well, lets just say a long time ago, of Chargers.  I cut out all the Charger ads and saved them in a box which my mother had saved for whatever reason and gave them to me about 5 or 6 years ago.  Wow, I'm old man.

[StoneCold]

These cars are complete but in need of total restorations. I have tried to buy a couple but they are absolutely NOT for sale.

The same story for many of these cars. I wonder how many families in this day and age will carry on that torch and keep these cars private when the title holder "moves on". Depending on the family, its all about the cash. These cars will see the light of day one way or another.

[HPP]

And no matter what we think, the entire world is NOT wired together by cell phone and personal computers.

Correct. I can think of six guys who have around 20 cars between them all that never post on forums or use computers for anything other than work related requirements. None of them have cell phones either. All have huge garages. Some cars  come out  on occasion, but all their cars sit under roofs and locked away and only those who visit would even know they have some pretty desireable stuff stashed away.

[myk]

For sure Mike, in fact I still have a box of clipping from the Auto Trader from about well, lets just say a long time ago, of Chargers.  I cut out all the Charger ads and saved them in a box which my mother had saved for whatever reason and gave them to me about 5 or 6 years ago.  Wow, I'm old man.

Good Lord, I wish I had kept the Auto Trader that had my Charger in it for sale...

[green69rt]

My wife's aunt has an old broken down cinder block garage with a 1940 Lincoln Zephyr V-12.  "saving it for her kids (none of them want it.)  I asked if she would sell it to me, no sale!  It's slowly rotting away.   Wife's cousin has a 1965 Chevy Impala 396 SS (wasn't that the first year for the 396?), all original that is used as a storage shelf in his garage.  Once a year he takes all the boxes off of it, fires it up, drives it around the block, puts it back in the garage and puts the boxes back on it, again no sale! 

[Chad L. Magee]

Yes, I have a few hidden for good reasons: to keep prying eyes and hands away from them.  Maybe I am greedy, but I bought the cars for me to enjoy, not for others to bug me about.  The ones I have now are keepers, as I got rid of the ones that I decided that I could part with a few years ago.  I hate being pestered with people trying to make a fast buck off of me.  Five years ago, I had a father/son combo come up to me at my house and were interested in buying any 426 Hemi cars and/or old Corvettes I had.  They were very pushy and trying to show off their money.  They had heard about my cars after talking to the dodge dealership owner (a friend of mine) and they assumed that I do not know what I have, but I do.  I told them to go take a hike because of their attitude.  Usually when I get asked about one of my cars, I will politely tell them no, but still take down their number in case I can find a similar car for sale for them...

[Lord Warlock]

It amazes me to hear of people coming to a stranger's door, and assume they don't know what they have.  In most cases we know more than almost any potential buyer.  I know exactly what I have, I know how rare it is, I know for a fact they haven't seen one like it, and would get kinda torqued off if someone tried to tell me it wasn't what it is.  Have the build sheet and fender tag to prove what I need to.
I for one have held on to it as long as I have because of the fact that it is one of a handful, and I couldn't replace it later if I sold it.  Don't try to convince me otherwise.  I also know every flaw on, inside, and underneath the car, so don't bother walking around and pointing at stuff to try to dicker me down on my price. The price is the price, don't like it, move on and let someone else have a shot at it.

Thankfully, in the last 40 years of owning it, I never had any intention of selling it.  currently with my failing health I'm being forced to consider things I never would before.  As soon as I reach the point that I can no longer drive it for fun, I will likely sell it, no use holding on when its too late for me to enjoy it.  That could be six months, could be 10 years, really depends on what the doctors say in the next six months.

[1974dodgecharger]

what if the kids want it Lord Warlock?


My son is going to be 4 and all he knows it is the charger and can pick out a 2nd gen charger from the store......

anyways point is I would have a hard time selling mine even at a loss who cares its money, but whats more important is what my son would think.....how much he loves the 2nd gen charger.

[472 R/T SE]

what if the kids want it Lord Warlock?


My son is going to be 4 and all he knows it is the charger and can pick out a 2nd gen charger from the store......

anyways point is I would have a hard time selling mine even at a loss who cares its money, but whats more important is what my son would think.....how much he loves the 2nd gen charger.

Sounds like he might have an idea what he wants.

Anxious to hear what he'd do different with your car?   

[myk]

No kids to pass off my junk towards.  I'm just going to give my car to Ghoste...

[PlainfieldCharger]

For sure Mike, in fact I still have a box of clipping from the Auto Trader from about well, lets just say a long time ago, of Chargers.  I cut out all the Charger ads and saved them in a box which my mother had saved for whatever reason and gave them to me about 5 or 6 years ago.  Wow, I'm old man.

If I had only known...I used to print the covers for "Auto Trader" on an old POS Miehle.....I could have saved you a bunch!!

[myk]

Yes, I have a few hidden for good reasons: to keep prying eyes and hands away from them.  Maybe I am greedy, but I bought the cars for me to enjoy, not for others to bug me about.  The ones I have now are keepers, as I got rid of the ones that I decided that I could part with a few years ago.  I hate being pestered with people trying to make a fast buck off of me.  Five years ago, I had a father/son combo come up to me at my house and were interested in buying any 426 Hemi cars and/or old Corvettes I had.  They were very pushy and trying to show off their money.  They had heard about my cars after talking to the dodge dealership owner (a friend of mine) and they assumed that I do not know what I have, but I do.  I told them to go take a hike because of their attitude.  Usually when I get asked about one of my cars, I will politely tell them no, but still take down their number in case I can find a similar car for sale for them...

Yeah, you are being greedy, but it's your property and you have the right to do with your property as you see fit, no matter how wrong it is to the rest of the world...

[PlainfieldCharger]

Yes, I have a few hidden for good reasons: to keep prying eyes and hands away from them.  Maybe I am greedy, but I bought the cars for me to enjoy, not for others to bug me about.  The ones I have now are keepers, as I got rid of the ones that I decided that I could part with a few years ago.  I hate being pestered with people trying to make a fast buck off of me.  Five years ago, I had a father/son combo come up to me at my house and were interested in buying any 426 Hemi cars and/or old Corvettes I had.  They were very pushy and trying to show off their money.  They had heard about my cars after talking to the dodge dealership owner (a friend of mine) and they assumed that I do not know what I have, but I do.  I told them to go take a hike because of their attitude.  Usually when I get asked about one of my cars, I will politely tell them no, but still take down their number in case I can find a similar car for sale for them...

It is a slippery slope we walk today. I would have to say if I have many of the rarer cars I would be very close to the vest with what I Had. You just never know how bad someone might want one of your cars.... It is obvious to me that many people have seen your cars and enjoy them.(they are talking about them) I just believe with all the reality shows everyone thinks they are a wheeler dealer....

[lloyd3]

I can easily think of dozens of fairly exotic cars (muscle and otherwise, in various states of completion) that are sitting quietly in their respective storage facilities. Almost all of them are waiting for their current owners to "expire".  Their estates will be a nightmare for their heirs to deal with, and most of these cars  will be sold for pennies on the dollar.  We're almost to the point where a car needs to be complete and ready to be marketed, or it will be scrapped. There simply aren't enough competent people left to save them all.

[DixieRestoParts]

I know several people with lots of cars in various conditions that are put up. Some day when those people die the cars will see the light of day.

[HANDM]

Speaking to those who are saving them for their son or daughter, I can attest to the fact that my daughter (now 20) could and still can pick out a Challenger, Charger or Cuda from the age of four. Same thing goes for my son (14)

My daughter has no interest in the cars now, other than telling me she spotted one

My son has already stated that he doesn't want to drive them either.

[Ghoste]

We get a lot of cars at auction that were saved for the kids.  Many times the kids don't care, they just see it as that thing that kept dad in the garage instead of being with them when they around, whereas other times the kids are sad but they just aren't interested in the same things dad was.  As for my kids, if they want to take the car to a gravel pit and set it on fire I won't care.
Unless they fail to make sure I'm dead first.

[lloyd3]

Kids are funny. Mine is bound and determined that my car will be his someday. When I point out to him that modern cars are safer and easily more dependable, he says he doesn't care. I've even suggested that we get a more modern replacement (Hemi Challenger) that we could use more.  He's great with the idea until he realizes that the '68 would be needed to fund it; then it's a no-go.  I really don't want him driving it until he's well into his 20s (maybe even later), because these things were (& still are) death-traps for the unwary.  Not sure how it all will turn out yet.

[ws23rt]

I can easily think of dozens of fairly exotic cars (muscle and otherwise, in various states of completion) that are sitting quietly in their respective storage facilities. Almost all of them are waiting for their current owners to "expire".  Their estates will be a nightmare for their heirs to deal with, and most of these cars  will be sold for pennies on the dollar.  We're almost to the point where a car needs to be complete and ready to be marketed, or it will be scrapped. There simply aren't enough competent people left to save them all.

Agree--It is a sad truth that many people never get around to making out a will.  When they pass on passing on their stuff is left to others to pass out. This is a place for flippers to feed.
As for most of these (rusty project) cars ever seeing the road again?  Not likely. Interest will fade as times change.

Also on this topic--When we think about it-- most of the cars we are talking about are nearly always in hiding. Not so much to hide them but to preserve them. The ones that are hiding in plane view in a field or forest are pretty much gone already.

BTW I get the same kind of pleasure seeing a car in a barn (for example) with all the patina that comes with the passage of time as I do seeing one on the street stretching it's torque. Or one that is part way back to new in a garage.

A completed/restored car is for many the end of a long history of that car and the question? What now---store/hide it?  

I am posting this thinking about my 69 hemi coronet 4sp. (a 50k survivor without engine) I bought it in 1980 with the passion for what it is and a recall of the days I wish I could have bought it new. Over time I acquired the parts needed to make it complete and it has been "hiding" the whole time
Sometimes years would pass as life happened and the car hid. I got it together and running in 2007 or so and put maybe 20 miles on it. The car hides in my basement/garage as a turn key car that I take out from time to time  It's  fun but not as much as I first felt when I bought it. All the years of getting back to the "project" were bits of pleasure in ownership.

The hobby is not so much about the end game. It's the game it's self.

[Homerr]

Ummm....

http://www.carsinbarns.com/siteinfo.html

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hemipwr70/

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