How much oil?

[Drache]

Changing the oil on the Dart and totally forgot what the previous owner said for an amount. I know a stock 440 takes 4+1 but my oil pan seems a little deeper than a stock pan or is that just me?



FYI the dipstick doesn't help since it's not for a 440 

[68 RT]

Just put in the 5qts, run motor, then check when hot. Add as needed. 

[Drache]

Just put in the 5qts, run motor, then check when hot. Add as needed. 

Check what? The engine doesn't have the correct dipstick 

[Drache]

Not a stock motor or oil pan for sure. Tried to see if there was a number on the back but was nothing.

[ACUDANUT]

With that deep pan, I bet 7 quarts. Wait, that looks like a tranny pan, not a oil pan. Witch are we talking about ?

[WHITE AND RED 69]

First thing is to get a proper dipstick. Not a good idea driving around just guessing that you have enough oil. 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

With that deep pan, I bet 7 quarts. Wait, that looks like a tranny pan, not a oil pan. Witch are we talking about ?

That second pic is your trans pan.....

Look at your orange engine oil pan...."187" stamped into it?  If so 4 plus 1 for the filter

[68X426]

Please don't put motor oil in the tranny. 

[BSB67]

Not a stock motor or oil pan for sure. Tried to see if there was a number on the back but was nothing.

You think this is your engine oil pan?

[Drache]

You think this is your engine oil pan?

No trans pan. Havent slept in 48 hours and wasnt thinking straight

God I really need to sleep. Just forget everything . 

[Stegs]

i have what appears to be a stock pan....

If i do 5 quarts the dipstick reads add

if i do 6 quarts its level on the full mark

maybe its aftermarket but it sure looks stock

[ws23rt]

This is still a good question for those that have a different pan and are not sure about their dip stick.

The oil level should be at 1.5" below the pan mounting surface to read full on the right dipstick.

I needed to answer this question when I was making a custom oil pan for my motorcycle project. (426 hemi is the same as 440).
For my case I need a sight glass instead of dipstick.  Also my oil cooling system and filter location etc. requires an unknown extra amount from stock.

[XH29N0G]

See if this rings a bell with others.  I believe I have a pan that is 6 quart and takes an addition one for the filter.  This is on a charger not an A body, so it may not be relevant for your situation.  So I would see if you can find the number and ID the pan.

[scratchinfotraction]

running over full will cause lots of windage and the oil rings will fill with oil and burn turning into carbon. this makes the ring "stick in the lands and cause blow-by out the pcv/breather.

I have done this 2x in the past THINKING a 6+ pan and ran over full for yrs till it had so much blow-by I did a tear down finding the rings packed/stuck in the lands.

so now any time I change oil for the first time on any mopar I do 4 quarts with filter and MARK stick. then add 1 quart and Mark stick full.

do it this way and mocking the pan up on a bench got me the 1.5" below gasket on my 440 for the correct amount with a stock windage tray.

windage tray cant do its job if the oil is to high in the pan.

everyone was telling me it was a 6 quart pan = NOT!

[HeavyFuel]

running over full will cause lots of windage and the oil rings will fill with oil and burn turning into carbon. this makes the ring "stick in the lands and cause blow-by out the pcv/breather.

I have done this 2x in the past THINKING a 6+ pan and ran over full for yrs till it had so much blow-by I did a tear down finding the rings packed/stuck in the lands.

so now any time I change oil for the first time on any mopar I do 4 quarts with filter and MARK stick. then add 1 quart and Mark stick full.

do it this way and mocking the pan up on a bench got me the 1.5" below gasket on my 440 for the correct amount with a stock windage tray.

windage tray cant do its job if the oil is to high in the pan.

everyone was telling me it was a 6 quart pan = NOT!

Good tip.......and welcome to the site.   

[scratchinfotraction]

running over full will cause lots of windage and the oil rings will fill with oil and burn turning into carbon. this makes the ring "stick in the lands and cause blow-by out the pcv/breather.

I have done this 2x in the past THINKING a 6+ pan and ran over full for yrs till it had so much blow-by I did a tear down finding the rings packed/stuck in the lands.

so now any time I change oil for the first time on any mopar I do 4 quarts with filter and MARK stick. then add 1 quart and Mark stick full.

do it this way and mocking the pan up on a bench got me the 1.5" below gasket on my 440 for the correct amount with a stock windage tray.

windage tray cant do its job if the oil is to high in the pan.

everyone was telling me it was a 6 quart pan = NOT!

Good tip.......and welcome to the site.   

Hi and thank you!