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Started by Steve1578, April 29, 2015, 09:34:08 PM

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VegasCharger

Thanks Nacho for clearing up for what has been a mystery to me for years. That is this "squared" rear quarter window treatment on these Chargers.

So bottom line these were available on late 1974 Charger hardtops only. No SE's.

I've attached the pic you posted with some editing stating what the fine print says next to the Charger on that ad :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

EccentricMagpies

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on May 01, 2015, 02:57:49 PM
I guess that... but it got discolored somehow diff that I have seen on some others... it looks some "grayshy"

I was wondering that same thing.  At first I thought maybe someone painted the stripe on and it eventually faded.
Car would look pretty cool with the original stripe back on with that body color I'm guessing. 

So what are the plans with the car?   You mentioned black.  Are you sticking with the original drivetrain?
'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: VegasCharger on May 02, 2015, 02:50:41 AM

So bottom line these were available on late 1974 Charger hardtops only. No SE's.


Dunno if just lates or full 74 year. My APRIL 74 parts catalog shows it though. What is definitelly true it was a Hardtop option, not coupe or SE. This would make it not anymore a real hardtop though... since ads a B pillar. It's at the end same SE assembly, but just the lack of louvers and a frame instead.

Remember IS NOT an ONLY Springs Special option, it was simply an added option for WH23 cars coded M07.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Chargerguy74

Welcome! Beautiful car. Please post the stripe code, I'd guess it's V6K as well. The stripes do fade like that, one of my parts cars looks exactly the same stripe wise.

My WL21 coupe Spring Special car has the normal fixed coupe windows. How do you like that interior, W1LL?

Ryan
WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

Steve1578

Quote from: EccentricMagpies on May 02, 2015, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on May 01, 2015, 02:57:49 PM
I guess that... but it got discolored somehow diff that I have seen on some others... it looks some "grayshy"

I was wondering that same thing.  At first I thought maybe someone painted the stripe on and it eventually faded.
Car would look pretty cool with the original stripe back on with that body color I'm guessing.  

So what are the plans with the car?   You mentioned black.  Are you sticking with the original drivetrain?

My current plans are to get it painted(black as I stated), and get the interior finished. Needs seats, new dash, headliner, small stuff.
Mechanically, I haven't looked into it too much to be honest.
The car comes with another transmission, as the one currently on it is slipping. I'm not sure what transmission is, I'll find that out. I know it's not a 727 though. I think I'll be sticking with the rebuilt 360, and I know it has a sure grip, not sure of the gear ratio though.

I'm still laying out all the details of the build. I haven't had much experience with mopar, so it's going to be an exciting experience.

EccentricMagpies

Quote from: Steve1578 on May 04, 2015, 09:53:16 AM
Quote from: EccentricMagpies on May 02, 2015, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on May 01, 2015, 02:57:49 PM
I guess that... but it got discolored somehow diff that I have seen on some others... it looks some "grayshy"

I was wondering that same thing.  At first I thought maybe someone painted the stripe on and it eventually faded.
Car would look pretty cool with the original stripe back on with that body color I'm guessing.  

So what are the plans with the car?   You mentioned black.  Are you sticking with the original drivetrain?

My current plans are to get it painted(black as I stated), and get the interior finished. Needs seats, new dash, headliner, small stuff.
Mechanically, I haven't looked into it too much to be honest.
The car comes with another transmission, as the one currently on it is slipping. I'm not sure what transmission is, I'll find that out. I know it's not a 727 though. I think I'll be sticking with the rebuilt 360, and I know it has a sure grip, not sure of the gear ratio though.

I'm still laying out all the details of the build. I haven't had much experience with mopar, so it's going to be an exciting experience.


Sounds like we might have two similar cars when done.  Mine isn't a spring special but will be black with a black top and black stripe.  360 auto as well. 

I'll be sure to keep an eye on your progress.   Maybe start a restore thread on this site

I agree with Ryan.  What does your tag have for the stripe?
'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd

Steve1578

Quote from: EccentricMagpies on May 04, 2015, 11:35:37 AM
Quote from: Steve1578 on May 04, 2015, 09:53:16 AM
Quote from: EccentricMagpies on May 02, 2015, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on May 01, 2015, 02:57:49 PM
I guess that... but it got discolored somehow diff that I have seen on some others... it looks some "grayshy"

I was wondering that same thing.  At first I thought maybe someone painted the stripe on and it eventually faded.
Car would look pretty cool with the original stripe back on with that body color I'm guessing.  

So what are the plans with the car?   You mentioned black.  Are you sticking with the original drivetrain?

My current plans are to get it painted(black as I stated), and get the interior finished. Needs seats, new dash, headliner, small stuff.
Mechanically, I haven't looked into it too much to be honest.
The car comes with another transmission, as the one currently on it is slipping. I'm not sure what transmission is, I'll find that out. I know it's not a 727 though. I think I'll be sticking with the rebuilt 360, and I know it has a sure grip, not sure of the gear ratio though.

I'm still laying out all the details of the build. I haven't had much experience with mopar, so it's going to be an exciting experience.


Sounds like we might have two similar cars when done.  Mine isn't a spring special but will be black with a black top and black stripe.  360 auto as well. 

I'll be sure to keep an eye on your progress.   Maybe start a restore thread on this site

I agree with Ryan.  What does your tag have for the stripe?

I was debating taking off the vinyl roof on mine, just not entirely sure yet. I like the uniqueness of it, but think it'd look smoother without it. Haven't decided yet. I'll definitely be starting a retore thread on here. I feel like I have too nice of a base to start on to really call it a "restore" but I'll go with it. Do you have a restore thread? Woudl be interested in checking it out.

And the stripe code is V6K.


Homerr

Welcome Steve! 

I suggest living with the car a while before you start in too far on it.  Helps get a clear picture of what needs to be done and the priority.

EccentricMagpies

Quote from: Steve1578 on May 04, 2015, 12:50:53 PM


I was debating taking off the vinyl roof on mine, just not entirely sure yet. I like the uniqueness of it, but think it'd look smoother without it. Haven't decided yet. I'll definitely be starting a retore thread on here. I feel like I have too nice of a base to start on to really call it a "restore" but I'll go with it. Do you have a restore thread? Woudl be interested in checking it out.

And the stripe code is V6K.



http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,112628.0.html

Been some time since I made an update.   But.  Still red.  :)
'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd

Steve1578

Quote from: Homerr on May 04, 2015, 03:51:49 PM
Welcome Steve! 

I suggest living with the car a while before you start in too far on it.  Helps get a clear picture of what needs to be done and the priority.

I agree  :2thumbs: there's a few things that I know for sure I need to get done.
Throttle cable(currently sticks, not good! But an easy fix), and a new set of wheels/tires.
The tires have about 95% tread left, but have dry rotted from sitting :(.
Also one of the rims is bent, so I'll be getting a new set. Thinking Cragar 08/61 S/S, 8's in the front and 10's in the rear.
That's really all it needs to be streetable.

Steve1578

Quote from: EccentricMagpies on May 04, 2015, 04:02:46 PM
Quote from: Steve1578 on May 04, 2015, 12:50:53 PM


I was debating taking off the vinyl roof on mine, just not entirely sure yet. I like the uniqueness of it, but think it'd look smoother without it. Haven't decided yet. I'll definitely be starting a retore thread on here. I feel like I have too nice of a base to start on to really call it a "restore" but I'll go with it. Do you have a restore thread? Woudl be interested in checking it out.

And the stripe code is V6K.



http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,112628.0.html

Been some time since I made an update.   But.  Still red.  :)

Can't wait to see it finished  :popcrn:
Looks like you had a better starting point than most as well!

Nacho-RT74

Remove the vinyl on it will require bondo on glass filler panel. They usually end cracking around that

Ryan, WL21 SS ?
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

MxRacer855

Hey Steve!

Congrats and welcome!   :cheers:

Chargerguy74

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on May 05, 2015, 07:00:17 PM
Remove the vinyl on it will require bondo on glass filler panel. They usually end cracking around that

Ryan, WL21 SS ?

Yup, WL21G4A, KT5 KT5 V6K W1LL interior. Definitely not a huge fan of the spring special interior I must say.
WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

Nacho-RT74

well, the ad states clearly just Hardtops... sooo. that's weird
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Chargerguy74

Not weird, it doesn't have the M07 window.
WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

VegasCharger

Quote from: Steve1578 on May 04, 2015, 12:50:53 PM
I was debating taking off the vinyl roof on mine, just not entirely sure yet. I like the uniqueness of it, but think it'd look smoother without it. Haven't decided yet. I'll definitely be starting a retore thread on here. I feel like I have too nice of a base to start on to really call it a "restore" but I'll go with it. Do you have a restore thread? Woudl be interested in checking it out.

And the stripe code is V6K.

Hello, if you were to do this may I suggest that you convert the rear quarter window treatment to the roll down style quarter glass. I have yet to see a descent "smoothed over" fixed window treatment. IMO very hard to pull off. I've only seen this attempt on SE's (example below) and not the "squared" window. But I'm sure it would be very simular.

Just my  :Twocents: Please do your own desire :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Steve1578

Quote from: VegasCharger on May 07, 2015, 12:50:45 AM
Quote from: Steve1578 on May 04, 2015, 12:50:53 PM
I was debating taking off the vinyl roof on mine, just not entirely sure yet. I like the uniqueness of it, but think it'd look smoother without it. Haven't decided yet. I'll definitely be starting a retore thread on here. I feel like I have too nice of a base to start on to really call it a "restore" but I'll go with it. Do you have a restore thread? Woudl be interested in checking it out.

And the stripe code is V6K.

Hello, if you were to do this may I suggest that you convert the rear quarter window treatment to the roll down style quarter glass. I have yet to see a descent "smoothed over" fixed window treatment. IMO very hard to pull off. I've only seen this attempt on SE's (example below) and not the "squared" window. But I'm sure it would be very simular.

Just my  :Twocents: Please do your own desire :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


I've decided just to buy a new vinyl replacement and keep it on. I've heard they're a real b*tch to get on though, shoudl be fun  :icon_smile_big:
the squared window with the vinyl, I think it just fits the car well, especially since it's a Sring Special.

r4daytona

Nice car and welcome!  Ok, is it my 52 year old eyes or is there some kind of hood scoop on it?  Looks like an air grabber in the 1st photo??  Again, maybe it's me.

Steve1578

Quote from: r4daytona on May 08, 2015, 07:43:37 AM
Nice car and welcome!  Ok, is it my 52 year old eyes or is there some kind of hood scoop on it?  Looks like an air grabber in the 1st photo??  Again, maybe it's me.

:cheers: Thank you!
And yes, that is a hood scoop. The previous owner(the one before the guy I'm getting it from) did a really horrible job with it though. Luckily, it comes with a new hood as well. Basically, they installed a high rise and then cut a square out of the old hood to make room for it and screwed the scoop onto it.

Steve1578

Plans :

- Paint the car black
- Staggered Cragar SS set up
- Finish interior(all seats need redone, headliner, and some small accent pieces)
- New carb
- Master cylinder
- headers
- cam
- new gearing?

This is the majority of what I plan to do with the car.
I'm not entirely sure what gears would be best, I would like something that's still streetable but has really good bite.
I'm thinking something in the 3's, any suggestions would be great!

EccentricMagpies

That should look great keeping the top on.  Adds another dimension of black.
Adding the stipe too I hope!!

Sounds like good plans on the car.
What rear is currently in the car?  81/4?   

I have 3 rallyes.  1 has a 9-1/4. 1 has 8-3/4 and my black car has a 8-1/4
:o

'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd

Steve1578

Quote from: EccentricMagpies on May 08, 2015, 09:54:53 AM
That should look great keeping the top on.  Adds another dimension of black.
Adding the stipe too I hope!!

Sounds like good plans on the car.
What rear is currently in the car?  81/4?   

I have 3 rallyes.  1 has a 9-1/4. 1 has 8-3/4 and my black car has a 8-1/4
:o



I havne't decided on the stripe yet, it's a toss up right now!

And I will have to find that out - I'm not too knowledgeable in regards to that aspect. I do know that it has a sure grip.

EccentricMagpies

'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd