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Little overpriced?

Started by Drache, April 18, 2015, 03:25:41 PM

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Drache

This charger came up for sale if anyone is interested.

Quote1968 DODGE CHARGER ALL ORIGINAL
have the original bill of sale and buildsheet
318 motor 8 1/4 rear end
true barn find . been sitting for 30 years
motor does run car does drive

has rust all over but a true original


   
$9,800















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at least it still has its fender tag and I'm guessing a mouse nest for a build sheet  ;)


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Quote from: polywideblock on April 18, 2015, 03:59:16 PM
at least it still has its fender tag and I'm guessing a mouse nest for a build sheet  ;)

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I just find it amazing that all these so called "barn finds"  that have been sitting for 30+ years seem to be in worse shape and have more rust than cars that have been on the road on and off for 30+ years.    :shruggy:  
Perhaps all these barns don't have a roof and sides.  
I've seen true barn finds or cars that were parked in a garage for over 30 years.  Other than dirty they are in the same basic structural shape and condition since the day they were parked there.   So I call B.S. on most the so called barn finds in this condition.  

Hell, we've got members here that have not touched their car in 10-20 years and they aren't all rotted away.   Unless they sat outside.    Is this car close to you drache?   Ask the guy for a picture of the barn.  Tell the guy he needs to spend any money from the car on a new barn   :lol:  
That car has spent years exposed to the elements.  

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VegasCharger

If that's a "True" barn find at that price, I'd hate to see a "False" barn find :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

1974dodgecharger

It's cool to say barn find vs sitting outside to rot....thats all

skip68

Ok.  It does sound better but to me it's misleading.  I hear barn find and I picture a car that's not all rotted with rust holes.   :Twocents:   
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skip68

Here's a barn find for you.   
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70 sublime

I live on a farm and do have a few barns
Have any of you been in a barn ??
First picture shows a cow in front of the car

A barn with animals down stairs is the last place you would want to park a car for long term storage
All the humidity that comes off them in the winter time makes everything in the barn rust be it down stairs or up stairs

That car came out of a barn with animals in it

Everybody should be looking for hay shed with cement floor car find  :2thumbs:
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

MxRacer855

I really like that unrestored cars still exist!  :Twocents:

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stripedelete

Quote from: 70 sublime on April 18, 2015, 05:31:54 PM
I live on a farm and do have a few barns
Have any of you been in a barn ??
First picture shows a cow in front of the car

A barn with animals down stairs is the last place you would want to park a car for long term storage
All the humidity that comes off them in the winter time makes everything in the barn rust be it down stairs or up stairs

That car came out of a barn with animals in it

Everybody should be looking for hay shed with cement floor car find  :2thumbs:

You are so correct!  However, I can certainly understand Skip's perspective given his local.

I get a kick out of "find" .    Trust me, it was never lost.

70 sublime

next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

fy469rtse

Looks like it was under the barn , and not in it
God were the windows down and doors open ,
I think there was a barn in the distance , but this was not found under cover

stripedelete

Quote from: 70 sublime on April 18, 2015, 10:50:04 PM
This is what a lost car looks like  :icon_smile_big:

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/gatineau/1967-dodge-coronet/1065514051

LOL.  The icing on the cake is the pre-loaded KiJi response in right hand column.

Patronus

A complete running Charger for $9800....certainly worth $8000, plus its red  :flame:
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Quote from: 70 sublime on April 18, 2015, 05:31:54 PM
I live on a farm and do have a few barns
Have any of you been in a barn ??
First picture shows a cow in front of the car

A barn with animals down stairs is the last place you would want to park a car for long term storage
All the humidity that comes off them in the winter time makes everything in the barn rust be it down stairs or up stairs

That car came out of a barn with animals in it

Everybody should be looking for hay shed with cement floor car find  :2thumbs:


I don't know why the general public, think a barn, is a wise choice to store a vehicle.
I get asked yearly, and have the same reply to all, what are you,  nuts!!!!!!!!
If you own a barn, then you know the associated problems, Mice, birds and insects.
If you have mice, there will be cats, even if you do not own any.......
They seem to have to mark everything in their path....so... now you have mice feces and urine inside and a coating of feline urine outside.
If the cats have entry, so do the raccoons, here's an educational moment...... how quickly, can a raccoon remove a closed vent window and gain entry to your vehicle, you would be surprised.  Last vent window here, resulted in a complete new interior, of a 30 ft day cruiser.
Insects, really no biggy unless you are not paying attention and have not noticed the hornets nest tucked ahead of the drivers door you just opened!!!
And then the birds, besides Pigeons ( Flying Rats ) which are pretty common, Barn swallows, really make a mess of stuff below their nests, and if that is not annoying enough, the seem to be on fly by alert, try to enter the barn without being dive bombed by your unwelcome guests.

So everytime someone asks me if I have room in my barn, I just shake my head and say no.

Notice the vent window missing out of the above barn find, my guess, that car may have been a nursery.....

Drache

Quote from: J.Bond on April 19, 2015, 08:34:05 AM
I don't know why the general public, think a barn, is a wise choice to store a vehicle.
I get asked yearly, and have the same reply to all, what are you,  nuts!!!!!!!!
If you own a barn, then you know the associated problems, Mice, birds and insects.
If you have mice, there will be cats, even if you do not own any.......
They seem to have to mark everything in their path....so... now you have mice feces and urine inside and a coating of feline urine outside.
If the cats have entry, so do the raccoons, here's an educational moment...... how quickly, can a raccoon remove a closed vent window and gain entry to your vehicle, you would be surprised.  Last vent window here, resulted in a complete new interior, of a 30 ft day cruiser.
Insects, really no biggy unless you are not paying attention and have not noticed the hornets nest tucked ahead of the drivers door you just opened!!!
And then the birds, besides Pigeons ( Flying Rats ) which are pretty common, Barn swallows, really make a mess of stuff below their nests, and if that is not annoying enough, the seem to be on fly by alert, try to enter the barn without being dive bombed by your unwelcome guests.

So everytime someone asks me if I have room in my barn, I just shake my head and say no.

Notice the vent window missing out of the above barn find, my guess, that car may have been a nursery.....


Due to very unforeseen circumstances last year, I had to store my Dart in the barn at the ranch (due to losing my current storage space and there was no spaces available anywhere). I was worried about mice and pack rats. But it was either that or keep it the parking lot of my apartment all winter long (which I'm glad I didn't).

So I parked it into the barn. I tossed packets of mouse/rat poison throughout the car. One under the truck, one on the passenger floor, and three under the hood (really worried about the wiring). The poison is irresistible to mice (pack rats not so much) and it states to put out some water as the poison makes the mice thirsty, so instead I put out a pan of anti freeze on the ground under the engine (didn't have to worry about pets).

I put the car cover over the car, closed the barn doors, and went off to work and didn't get to see my car for 6 months hoping for the best.

About a month or so back I opened the doors expecting the worse. There was nothing on the car cover, no animal feces. The trunk poison wasn't touched and neither was the one on the passenger side floor. The interior smelled perfectly fine and no damage.

Then I popped the hood. Instantly I had seen one of the packs of poison had been ripped into and about 8 mice droppings. I looked around and didn't see any nests nor damage to the wiring. Then I looked into the pan of anti freeze and there I found 5 dead floating mice. Only 5 was sort of a  surprise since the mice have been bad out there many years.

Turned the key and the engine fired right up.

Sadly due to a bench push rod or valve the car will be staying in the barn a little while longer since I'm back working.
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Quote from: Drache on April 19, 2015, 10:15:33 AM
Quote from: J.Bond on April 19, 2015, 08:34:05 AM
I don't know why the general public, think a barn, is a wise choice to store a vehicle.
I get asked yearly, and have the same reply to all, what are you,  nuts!!!!!!!!
If you own a barn, then you know the associated problems, Mice, birds and insects.
If you have mice, there will be cats, even if you do not own any.......
They seem to have to mark everything in their path....so... now you have mice feces and urine inside and a coating of feline urine outside.
If the cats have entry, so do the raccoons, here's an educational moment...... how quickly, can a raccoon remove a closed vent window and gain entry to your vehicle, you would be surprised.  Last vent window here, resulted in a complete new interior, of a 30 ft day cruiser.
Insects, really no biggy unless you are not paying attention and have not noticed the hornets nest tucked ahead of the drivers door you just opened!!!
And then the birds, besides Pigeons ( Flying Rats ) which are pretty common, Barn swallows, really make a mess of stuff below their nests, and if that is not annoying enough, the seem to be on fly by alert, try to enter the barn without being dive bombed by your unwelcome guests.

So everytime someone asks me if I have room in my barn, I just shake my head and say no.

Notice the vent window missing out of the above barn find, my guess, that car may have been a nursery.....


Due to very unforeseen circumstances last year, I had to store my Dart in the barn at the ranch (due to losing my current storage space and there was no spaces available anywhere). I was worried about mice and pack rats. But it was either that or keep it the parking lot of my apartment all winter long (which I'm glad I didn't).

So I parked it into the barn. I tossed packets of mouse/rat poison throughout the car. One under the truck, one on the passenger floor, and three under the hood (really worried about the wiring). The poison is irresistible to mice (pack rats not so much) and it states to put out some water as the poison makes the mice thirsty, so instead I put out a pan of anti freeze on the ground under the engine (didn't have to worry about pets).

I put the car cover over the car, closed the barn doors, and went off to work and didn't get to see my car for 6 months hoping for the best.

About a month or so back I opened the doors expecting the worse. There was nothing on the car cover, no animal feces. The trunk poison wasn't touched and neither was the one on the passenger side floor. The interior smelled perfectly fine and no damage.

Then I popped the hood. Instantly I had seen one of the packs of poison had been ripped into and about 8 mice droppings. I looked around and didn't see any nests nor damage to the wiring. Then I looked into the pan of anti freeze and there I found 5 dead floating mice. Only 5 was sort of a  surprise since the mice have been bad out there many years.

Turned the key and the engine fired right up.

Sadly due to a bench push rod or valve the car will be staying in the barn a little while longer since I'm back working.

By placing the mouse bait/poison in the car you are attracting them inside to feed. :Twocents:

Drache

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on April 19, 2015, 10:39:17 AM
By placing the mouse bait/poison in the car you are attracting them inside to feed. :Twocents:

Attracting what? None came inside to the poison in the car  :shruggy:
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Just a short side story -
I met a guy at a car show a few years back who had a completely original '68 Coronet R/T. He had the build sheet and all of the provenance to go with it.
Instead of pictures of a cars resto (it was a mint unrestored car), he had pictures of what the original owner of the car purchased it for... herding cattle! NO JOKE!  :lol:
There were dozens and dozens of pictures of that car in different spots throughout different times of the year just running the little critters down.  :rofl:

The fact the car was in that great of shape given the history just blew my mind!

So... maybe this '68 is a this guy's Coronet's long lost brother?  ;)

Jeff

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Ghoste

Herding cattle??!!!  Thats a first.  :lol:

Sublime/Sixpack

30 yrs. ago would have been 1985. That Charger would have been 17 yrs. old, and may have looked similar to how it does now when it got shoved in the barn (if indeed it really was in a barn for 30 yrs.) Who knows?   :shruggy:

At any rate I hope it finds a good new home.
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MxRacer855

Quote from: Ghoste on April 19, 2015, 01:02:19 PM
Herding cattle??!!!  Thats a first.  :lol:

:lol: I couldn't even make that up!

He was BEYOND proud of it!

Every other person that walked up to the car would be asked "Hey! I bet you CAN'T guess what this car was used for when it was purchased".  :rofl:

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: Drache on April 19, 2015, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on April 19, 2015, 10:39:17 AM
By placing the mouse bait/poison in the car you are attracting them inside to feed. :Twocents:

Attracting what? None came inside to the poison in the car  :shruggy:


"Then I popped the hood. Instantly I had seen one of the packs of poison had been ripped into and about 8 mice droppings."

::)

Drache

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on April 19, 2015, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: Drache on April 19, 2015, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on April 19, 2015, 10:39:17 AM
By placing the mouse bait/poison in the car you are attracting them inside to feed. :Twocents:

Attracting what? None came inside to the poison in the car  :shruggy:


"Then I popped the hood. Instantly I had seen one of the packs of poison had been ripped into and about 8 mice droppings."

::)

What is your point? The mice never got INTO the car (interior). As for the mice that were there and died, there was no nesting or destruction because the poison killed them. If the poison hadn't of been there it would have been worse.

We stored someone's beater there for a winter. Their entire engine was a nest, wires chewed, and the interior was filled with mice. The owner was told to put poison pellets around, he did not.

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Quote from: Drache on April 19, 2015, 05:51:38 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on April 19, 2015, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: Drache on April 19, 2015, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on April 19, 2015, 10:39:17 AM
By placing the mouse bait/poison in the car you are attracting them inside to feed. :Twocents:

Attracting what? None came inside to the poison in the car  :shruggy:


"Then I popped the hood. Instantly I had seen one of the packs of poison had been ripped into and about 8 mice droppings."

::)

What is your point? The mice never got INTO the car (interior). As for the mice that were there and died, there was no nesting or destruction because the poison killed them. If the poison hadn't of been there it would have been worse.

We stored someone's beater there for a winter. Their entire engine was a nest, wires chewed, and the interior was filled with mice. The owner was told to put poison pellets around, he did not.



::)

My point is:

You put bait/poison in your car, and under the hood.

The reason mice eat the poison is because to them, it's food.

They are attracted to it.

Once they eat it, and their little mouse bellies start to ache,

They crawl away into little tiny places in your car to die.

Inside the cowl,

Inside the inner hood braces,

Inside the rocker panels,

Inside the air cleaner...

They love the exhaust system...

Lots of places to curl up and die in there.

Before they die, they shit, and they piss.

Mouse piss eats metal away.

FAST.

After they die, they stink.

You need to put moth balls in the car and under the hood.

The smell keeps them away, doesn't draw them closer to feed.

That is all.

Ghoste

That's my feeling on it too. :Twocents:

Drache

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on April 19, 2015, 11:07:57 PM
You need to put moth balls in the car and under the hood.

That is an urban myth. Same with Irish Spring Soap. It does shit. We've tried it. Lots. My grandmother even has a picture she took of a mouse nest that is lined with moth balls that they took.

Simple fact is there were less mice that were around my car with the poison than the car(s) that didn't have poison in them.

No mice made it into my interior either.
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Has anyone tried that fox piss you can buy?  Its supposed to keep them away.  :shruggy:

Drache

Quote from: Ghoste on April 20, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Has anyone tried that fox piss you can buy?  Its supposed to keep them away.  :shruggy:

Are we talking actually fox urine?
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Doesn't work on Canadian Mice. Might work on your sissy American Mice but not here  :nana:
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 :scratchchin:   
The balls on an average male moth are extremely small.   It would take literally thousands of moth balls to keep a car safe I would think.    :shruggy:
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stripedelete

Quote from: Ghoste on April 20, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Has anyone tried that fox piss you can buy?  Its supposed to keep them away.  :shruggy:

Oh man.  I would used it trapping fox when I was a kid.  Might work, but, I would rather have the mice.

Drache

Quote from: skip68 on April 20, 2015, 10:19:52 AM
:scratchchin:   
The balls on an average male moth are extremely small.   It would take literally thousands of moth balls to keep a car safe I would think.    :shruggy:

Oh Skip, what would this forum be like without you  :rofl:
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Quote from: skip68 on April 20, 2015, 10:19:52 AM
:scratchchin:   
The balls on an average male moth are extremely small.   It would take literally thousands of moth balls to keep a car safe I would think.    :shruggy:

I buy mine in bulk. ;)

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: Drache on April 20, 2015, 10:05:10 AM
Doesn't work on Canadian Mice. Might work on your sissy American Mice but not here  :nana:


I thought Mighty Mouse was from Mexico. :shruggy: :smilielol:

303 Mopar

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on April 20, 2015, 12:16:36 PM
Quote from: Drache on April 20, 2015, 10:05:10 AM
Doesn't work on Canadian Mice. Might work on your sissy American Mice but not here  :nana:
I thought Mighty Mouse was from Mexico. :shruggy: :smilielol:

Speedy Gonzales is from Mexico, Mighty Mouse was All American!
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Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: 303 Mopar on April 20, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on April 20, 2015, 12:16:36 PM
Quote from: Drache on April 20, 2015, 10:05:10 AM
Doesn't work on Canadian Mice. Might work on your sissy American Mice but not here  :nana:
I thought Mighty Mouse was from Mexico. :shruggy: :smilielol:

Speedy Gonzales is from Mexico, Mighty Mouse was All American!

Before or after he snuck across the border? :nana:

Ghoste



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I can totally picture drache pouring fox pee all over his car.   Here's how it would go down.   

Me---drache, watcha doing


Drache---pouring fox piss on my car


Me---why?


Drache---to keep the mice from peeing on it.   

The end.    :smilielol:
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MxRacer855

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: - to all of it! You guys crack me up!  :2thumbs:

Drache

Quote from: skip68 on April 20, 2015, 07:31:24 PM
I can totally picture drache pouring fox pee all over his car.   Here's how it would go down.   

Me---drache, watcha doing


Drache---pouring fox piss on my car


Me---why?


Drache---to keep the mice from peeing on it.   

The end.    :smilielol:

Why fox piss?

I'd just do it myself.....  :nana:
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I don't smell pee or mothballs...  but I do smell :dancinglock:

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