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was elvis a paedophile

Started by polywideblock, April 17, 2015, 07:18:58 PM

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polywideblock

SO     been thinking about this for a while now ,ever since Rolf Harris was charged and convicted in England  during the jimmy savile /Garry glitter witch hunt .

Rolf was charged with and convicted on 12 counts of "groping" girls during the 60's 70's and 80's . a time  when everybody grabbed ass  :yesnod:

here in Australia we have just had a 25 year old  man that married a 13 year old charged with 26 counts of predatory behaviour for having sex with his new "wife" 26 time during the 26 days they were married , the father has been charged and convicted (12 years)  with procuring a minor for sex   :yesnod:

        so   how old was Priscilla when she got married to the "king " ?   was that  predatory behaviour ?
       
          "Elvis and Priscilla Ann Wagner first met in 1959 while Elvis was stationed in Germany with the U.S. Army. Priscilla was only 14 years old when the singer began dating her. He was 24, and at that time, he even had a younger girl living in his house."
           
             how many other "pretty young things" were waiting for the king down in the jungle room  :scratchchin:

       Rolf is 85 years old  ,if Elvis hadn't died trying to squeeze out a 200lb cheeseburger  would he be one of this  older  generation being charged with paedophilia ?

        yeah I know I've just slandered a "national icon" but really folks what's the difference between what Elvis did and the examples above   :shruggy:

                 ok let the hate mail  begin  :angel:

                   


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HANDM

And what about jerry lee lewis and his 13 year old cousin that he married. If I remember correctly jerry seinfeld's wife was underage when he was doing, I mean dating her.

It only matters if you aren't a celebrity apparently....

hemi71x

Rolf Harris

The "Tie me kangaroo, down sport" Rolf Harris?
I still play that song over, and over again, whem I'm listening to a 60's CD in the car.
Wasn't it 1963 in the USA?
Remember that song when i was a 10 year old kid.

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If you have money, you can get away with anything. Look at the king of pop, Michael Jackson.
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polywideblock

Quote from: hemi71x on April 17, 2015, 08:13:24 PM
Rolf Harris

The "Tie me kangaroo, down sport" Rolf Harris?
I still play that song over, and over again, whem I'm listening to a 60's CD in the car.
Wasn't it 1963 in the USA?
Remember that song when i was a 10 year old kid.


    :yesnod:  that's the one also had Jake the peg with the extra leg ( seems unappropriated now but was a hit song ) and two little boys

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS-itkO9ia8

             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmL3m2zcoOI

       

       


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TruckDriver

It is actually more common then most people know.

Melanie Griffith was 14 when started dating Don Johnson 22
Courtney Stodden, 17, married 51-year-old actor Doug Hutchison (still married now)
Milla Jovovich 16, married her Dazed and Confused costar Shawn Andrews, who was 21
Bo Derek married John Derek. They married in 1976, when she was 18 and he was 30 years older. The couple began dating when she was 16 and moved to Germany until Bo turned 18 to avoid US statutory rape laws. They stayed married until he passed away in 1998.
Demi Moore 17 got her current professional name from her first husband, singer-songwriter Freddy Moore 30
Wilmer Valderrama was 24, when he began dating 17-year-old Lindsay Lohan.
Marilyn Monroe (16) + James Dougherty (21)
Home Improvement's Taran Noah Smith (17) + Heidi van Pelt (33)
Loretta Lynn (13) + Oliver Vanetta Lynn (22)
Milo Ventimiglia began dating Hayden Panettiere, his co-star from "Heroes," when he was 29 and she was 17. Panettiere has a thing for older men
Justin Gaston met Miley Cyrus when she was 15 and he was 20. The two met through her father Billy Ray and Billy Ray totally approved of Gaston
Jerry Seinfeld – when he was 38 – dated a 17-year-old high school senior named Shoshanna Lonstein
Richard Petty married "Mrs. Lynda Owens" in 1958 when she was 17-years-old. Richard was 21
PETE

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polywideblock

wow    :o     they want to hope that no-one goes on a witch hunt over there like public prosecutors  did in Britain   :yesnod:

                once they got started anyone was a target  just ask Rolf( the scapegoat), jimmy savile was dead, garry gliter was already inside . they had to put someone inside so they   could say "see we don't condone this sort of behaviour" .although it seems to have been accepted up until at least the 90's  :scratchchin:

       what gets me is the term paedophile  ,to me it conjures up images of a "sicko" in a raincoat offering little boys lollies  . not "stars" chasing around /groping teenage girls 


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ws23rt

Pederasty is another word (seldom used) that more closely describes Michael Jackson's deal :eek2:
We need to (in this day of political correctness :eek2:) give proper recognition to all groups. After all if they breathe and poop they are people. :shruggy:

We are moving toward a more tolerant view of all cultures and religious practices. At least that seems to be the trend.

Who are we to question or judge what others in this world find to be acceptable? Human sacrifice for example?  We see this today as we have for thousands of years.

Two very good questions are.----What is right vs wrong?  And what is good vs bad?

My upbringing was without an imposed voice in my ear. I feel comfortable with my understanding about right vs wrong and good vs bad.

As I see it the only way we can live as closely as we do with the diversity we have is to suspend activities that harm others. Where that doesn't happen there will be a battle.   :Twocents:

BTW I verified the spelling of that word "pederasty" by looking it up in the dictionary instead of google. :slap:  I guess I hear too much about our google searches becoming part of our life history. :brickwall:  This is a tough world to navigate.  :brickwall:

stripedelete

Wtf is Rolf?  :icon_smile_big:

I thought the issue with Jerry Lee was that she was his cousin.   :shruggy:

In the 20th century, 13 and 14 year old brides were a somewhat accepted, vestigial, mores from the 19th century, when you crossed into adulthood as you were able to work.   In the 21st century we have extended adolescence into the late 20's.  So, now the same marriage looks like pedafilia and based on maturity is pedafilia. :Twocents:

ws23rt

Quote from: stripedelete on April 18, 2015, 07:12:41 PM
Wtf is Rolf?  :icon_smile_big:

I thought the issue with Jerry Lee was that she was his cousin.   :shruggy:

In the 20th century, 13 and 14 year old brides were a somewhat accepted, vestigial, mores from the 19th century, when you crossed into adulthood as you were able to work.   In the 21st century we have extended adolescence into the late 20's.  So, now the same marriage looks like pedafilia and based on maturity is pedafilia. :Twocents:

I agree that we have extended adolescence into the late twenties. And it's because the young are not steered to independence earlier. They now find their way at their leisure because their are more ways to get along without working. They are told that the future will come for them but they are not told how much depends on their effort.

polywideblock

this is a rolf   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolf_Harris

                                                                               Rolf with his famous "wobble board"
                                                           


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ACUDANUT

Quote from: HANDM on April 17, 2015, 07:39:18 PM
And what about jerry lee lewis and his 13 year old cousin that he married. If I remember correctly jerry seinfeld's wife was underage when he was doing, I mean dating her.

It only matters if you aren't a celebrity apparently....

Yep, Jerry Lee Lewis was a rapist, having sex with a 13 y/o little girl.

Brock Lee

Ted Nugent can be added to the list. He boasts about past activities, like talking one girls parents into making him her legal guardian so he could take her on the road. Out of one side of his face he states his messing around with young girls as "beautiful", then slams pedophiles out the other side. But that is classic Nugent. He is the worst brand of hypocrite that exists.

Mopar Nut

Quote from: Brock Lee on April 19, 2015, 05:31:46 PM
Ted Nugent can be added to the list. He boasts about past activities, like talking one girls parents into making him her legal guardian so he could take her on the road. Out of one side of his face he states his messing around with young girls as "beautiful", then slams pedophiles out the other side. But that is classic Nugent. He is the worst brand of hypocrite that exists.
He dated Courtney Love 14/15 when he was around 30 and Pele Massa 17 when was 29.
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TruckDriver

Of course too, you can't really call 13 year olds little girls or little boys anymore when they are stealing at gun point, stealing cars, murdering and raping each other and doing more drugs then most adults now a days (yes that is all happening in Milwaukee). I was talking to someone a few months ago about how 13 is the new 18/20 year olds because of they way they act. I am sure we all know people over 40, that act like they are 15 yet. And most of us forget, the USA is the only country in the world where you have to be 18 to be considered a adult. Most are 16 years old. A few countries are even 14. And it has been that way for ever. They don't seem to have no issues with it. A lot of this thinking we do here is because of they way we were raised. I am not saying it is right or wrong, just saying it is a point of view as to who should get along with who. I have never dated a girl under 18, yet I usually date women 10 to 20 years younger because I seem to get along with them better then women with in 5 years of my age. I work with a guy that him and his wife are in their mid 50's, and all of their friends are in their mid 20's to 40 or so. In my family, there was a lot of big age gaps in it too. My grandmother was 10 years older then my grandpa. He was still in high school when they met. They married around 1940.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

Mike DC

  
IMO there is a difference between being attracted to a fully-developed teenager who is under the legal age, versus a pre-puberty child.  Both are inappropriate but IMO the law should make some distinction between the two.  17yo and 7yo aren't the same situation. 

Adults attracted to children are scarier.  They are doing more damage and more likely to repeat-offend.  No mature partner can satisfy that urge by definition.  13yo is pretty borderline for this distinction, though.  Depends on the case. 


Brock Lee

I have zero interest in 20 somethings. Women go through a ton of changes within that decade of life. They also have an "upgrade" mentality most guys do not see or acknowledge. Even if happy in the moment, they have their eyes open for an upgrade. They come down to earth in their early 30's.

keith88

The south in and of its self is famous for young teenage brides.... been that way for years.
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ACUDANUT

True. Didn't Loretta Lynn marry at age 13 too ?

TruckDriver

Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 20, 2015, 01:35:28 PM
True. Didn't Loretta Lynn marry at age 13 too ?

Yes, I posted it in one of my earlier posts of all the people that married under 18.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P