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Looking for someone to restore my charger

Started by RUSTY CHIEFTAN, March 15, 2015, 12:27:52 PM

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EccentricMagpies

Wow.  That's a nice predicament to be in!!
:cheers:
'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd

2592 creston

Quote from: JR on March 17, 2015, 11:36:47 AM
I did read it. It wasn't worded properly.

I assumed the period was a mistyped comma, not that the daughter was overseeing the estate and the sentence was started there.

Either way I maintain that blowing a six figure part of the man's estate by taking it to GYC to get an overpriced average quality restoration (that he could get at many other shops) just because "they're on TV" is ridiculous. Especially since the car will be worth 30-50k tops once completed.

The OP should do more research and find reputable restoration shops near him.

           GYC is probably half what another shop would cost. Because " they're on TV" is why they can do it cheaper, he gets his parts and services at a discount. But if you just don't like the quality of work ,that's a different story.

JR

Quote from: 2592 creston on March 17, 2015, 07:47:58 PM


           GYC is probably half what another shop would cost. Because " they're on TV" is why they can do it cheaper, he gets his parts and services at a discount.

You're telling me that gyc will restore a stripped shell of a 73 charger for 50 bucks or so an hour? The TV show part of the business would likely never be involved. I'll believe that labor rate when I see it.
70 Charger RT top bananna /68 Charger RT triple green

2592 creston

Quote from: JR on March 17, 2015, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: 2592 creston on March 17, 2015, 07:47:58 PM


           GYC is probably half what another shop would cost. Because " they're on TV" is why they can do it cheaper, he gets his parts and services at a discount.

You're telling me that gyc will restore a stripped shell of a 73 charger for 50 bucks or so an hour? The TV show part of the business would likely never be involved. I'll believe that labor rate when I see it.


     Im not telling you anything..i am giving you information.  Mark gives you a not to exceed price for your restoration,not by the hour.(Find another restoration shop that will do that) when you get in contact with him he will go over your car and give you a price and it doesn't go over that. As far as being on the show it doesn't make a difference in the price. So if the guy with the 73 Charger likes the way GYC restores cars he should drop Mark an e-mail.

polywideblock

sounds like there's going to be another nice 3rd gen out there    :2thumbs:   not all of us have a hate on them  :shruggy:

your starting with a blank canvas so to speak    :cheers:

      don't know wether there's a three figure resto in one unless its a rare combo or something  :scratchchin:

        keep us posted   pics , pics and more pics we love pics    :yesnod:

  here's a link to a wrecked 74 that didn't look to bad before the fire /curb kiss shows what can be done with a 3rd gen    

                             http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,116595.0/all.html

   again just for some ideas  check out some of the nice third gens owned by members here

 and  here's some pics of the charger KWS had before it was stolen  :rotz:   just for ideas  , yeah I know its a 72 .
 
   

                                           


                           

                                   


                          find a shop  where your paying for  the "name "(reputation)    :Twocents:

                 either way it costs money   :yesnod:

                                good luck whatever you do    :cheers:
           


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

JR

Quote from: 2592 creston on March 17, 2015, 08:09:21 PM
Quote from: JR on March 17, 2015, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: 2592 creston on March 17, 2015, 07:47:58 PM


          GYC is probably half what another shop would cost. Because " they're on TV" is why they can do it cheaper, he gets his parts and services at a discount.

You're telling me that gyc will restore a stripped shell of a 73 charger for 50 bucks or so an hour? The TV show part of the business would likely never be involved. I'll believe that labor rate when I see it.


    Im not telling you anything..i am giving you information.  Mark gives you a not to exceed price for your restoration,not by the hour.(Find another restoration shop that will do that) when you get in contact with him he will go over your car and give you a price and it doesn't go over that. As far as being on the show it doesn't make a difference in the price. So if the guy with the 73 Charger likes the way GYC restores cars he should drop Mark an e-mail.

100 bucks or so an hour is what an average restoration costs. Any less and the shop goes in the hole. It doesn't make a difference if mark is counting the number of hours he thinks he can do it for  and then gives him a total price, the outcome is the same.

I'm assuming there's some kind of markup in his prices due to the "I'm on TV" tax, but even so, there's no way he's restoring anything for half the costs of any competitor.

If OP comes back with a written estimate from them I'll eat my words, but I don't see that happening. Seems like a huge waste of a late man's estate to blow 100k+ on a 50k car.

But its their money, not mine. (And I even like 3rd gens.)
70 Charger RT top bananna /68 Charger RT triple green


2592 creston

Quote from: JR on March 17, 2015, 11:17:07 PM
Quote from: 2592 creston on March 17, 2015, 08:09:21 PM
Quote from: JR on March 17, 2015, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: 2592 creston on March 17, 2015, 07:47:58 PM


          GYC is probably half what another shop would cost. Because " they're on TV" is why they can do it cheaper, he gets his parts and services at a discount.

You're telling me that gyc will restore a stripped shell of a 73 charger for 50 bucks or so an hour? The TV show part of the business would likely never be involved. I'll believe that labor rate when I see it.


    Im not telling you anything..i am giving you information.  Mark gives you a not to exceed price for your restoration,not by the hour.(Find another restoration shop that will do that) when you get in contact with him he will go over your car and give you a price and it doesn't go over that. As far as being on the show it doesn't make a difference in the price. So if the guy with the 73 Charger likes the way GYC restores cars he should drop Mark an e-mail.

100 bucks or so an hour is what an average restoration costs. Any less and the shop goes in the hole. It doesn't make a difference if mark is counting the number of hours he thinks he can do it for  and then gives him a total price, the outcome is the same.

I'm assuming there's some kind of markup in his prices due to the "I'm on TV" tax, but even so, there's no way he's restoring anything for half the costs of any competitor.

If OP comes back with a written estimate from them I'll eat my words, but I don't see that happening. Seems like a huge waste of a late man's estate to blow 100k+ on a 50k car.

But its their money, not mine. (And I even like 3rd gens.)


     How do you know what GYC charges? Have you ever spoke to them? I have ,my car is being restored there as we speak! All I am trying to do is tell people who think they can't afford to have their cars restored that they may have an option. If a person likes the work GYC does and doesn't mind waiting( there are probably 10-15 cars ahead of them) give Mark a call..you may get a good deal,I did!

73rallye440magnum

Quote from: JR on March 17, 2015, 11:17:07 PM
Quote from: 2592 creston on March 17, 2015, 08:09:21 PM
Quote from: JR on March 17, 2015, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: 2592 creston on March 17, 2015, 07:47:58 PM


          GYC is probably half what another shop would cost. Because " they're on TV" is why they can do it cheaper, he gets his parts and services at a discount.

You're telling me that gyc will restore a stripped shell of a 73 charger for 50 bucks or so an hour? The TV show part of the business would likely never be involved. I'll believe that labor rate when I see it.


    Im not telling you anything..i am giving you information.  Mark gives you a not to exceed price for your restoration,not by the hour.(Find another restoration shop that will do that) when you get in contact with him he will go over your car and give you a price and it doesn't go over that. As far as being on the show it doesn't make a difference in the price. So if the guy with the 73 Charger likes the way GYC restores cars he should drop Mark an e-mail.

100 bucks or so an hour is what an average restoration costs. Any less and the shop goes in the hole. It doesn't make a difference if mark is counting the number of hours he thinks he can do it for  and then gives him a total price, the outcome is the same.

I'm assuming there's some kind of markup in his prices due to the "I'm on TV" tax, but even so, there's no way he's restoring anything for half the costs of any competitor.

If OP comes back with a written estimate from them I'll eat my words, but I don't see that happening. Seems like a huge waste of a late man's estate to blow 100k+ on a 50k car.

But its their money, not mine. (And I even like 3rd gens.)

$100 an hour or belly up is a pretty bold claim. I know of several succesful and long-standing shops charging around $60 for world class work.
WTB- 68 or 69 project

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8, XH29G0

JR

This is getting long winded, I'll just sum up my thoughts on them this way:

Theres no way are they restoring any car for half the cost of any other shop. Ain't gonna happen.

No shop is rebuilding a non running shell of a 73 Charger from scratch for 20-30k.

70 Charger RT top bananna /68 Charger RT triple green

Cncguy


charge69


Ghoste

Tough crowd man.  I don't know what to think myself, if the car was left to you then obviously there must be some attachment to it in that regard, if GYC is your shop of choice then by all means at least give them a call.  :shruggy:

hemi-hampton

  " Im not telling you anything..i am giving you information.  Mark gives you a not to exceed price for your restoration,not by the hour.(Find another restoration shop that will do that) when you get in contact with him he will go over your car and give you a price and it doesn't go over that."


And now I know why that Rear Ended Charger came out looking so screwed up :scratchchin:

RUSTY CHIEFTAN

Thanks for the feed back much appreciated.It will be awhile before it all happens.Dont worry I am not spending  anyone's  college money I am fully aware of what a quality restoration  costs. So if you want to send suggestions  on shops i am open to ideas.   Thanks again.

Chargerguy74

Quote from: charge69 on March 17, 2015, 07:27:05 PM
Amen JR !  I guess its' pretty easy to spend someone else's money!   How quickly would he consider GYC if it was HIS money he would be wasting ?

RUSTY CHIEFTAN, you certainly have a strange situation there and we still have no idea how much work your Charger needs except, apparently, a new engine and transmission. If you cannot do any of the body/paint work or mechanical work yourself, paying someone to do it is going to cost you wayyyyy more than that car is worth. Every little thing you have to replace, and there will be a lot of it on a typical restoration, will cost you real money and the labor to do it will add up quickly.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous spending large amounts of money on a 1973 Charger sounds ? Yeah, I know, you inherited the car and that, in itself, sounds generous but free reign on a six figure budget to restore it is ludicrous, at best.

Can you not give us, at least, a picture or two so we can give you a little better idea as to what direction you should go with it ?



Hey, come on now.
WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

fizz

Call Danny @ straight line customs in Savage, mn. Very happy from experience.

1970Moparmann

Lane Nostalgia Inc
1115 Turret Drive
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: (815) 636-2784

Can't find the website, but they have completed some great Mopar restorations.   I believe, Roger is the owner (co-owner).

My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

charge69

No offense to you intended, Chargerguy74. You know what you have and know what it will cost to restore it with YOUR money.  Really don't think you will be putting "six figure" money that is really someone else's in your Charger just because you can!


ACUDANUT

IMO , spending crazy money on 73-74 Charger, is like throwing money out the window.
71-72 is a Different story. imo

MxRacer855

Quote from: RUSTY CHIEFTAN on March 16, 2015, 10:34:13 PM
Quote from: 1RareBird on March 16, 2015, 09:49:34 PM
If you spend $100,000 + on restoring a 73 charger it better have a 572 hemi, 5-speed, Dana rear with about every cool restomod goodie you can imagine. I also would not to go into any shop with "I can only spend X", because the estimate will come back X-$50.  Spend a little time and do more research.
I agree I'm not going to say how much I have when I go into it .I am located in Illinois .I am open to all suggestion's.

Where at in IL?

I'm NOT the guy you're looking for, but just curious. I'm in Aurora (40 miles South of Chicago).

Jeff

Chargerguy74

Quote from: charge69 on March 21, 2015, 09:21:18 AM
No offense to you intended, Chargerguy74. You know what you have and know what it will cost to restore it with YOUR money.  Really don't think you will be putting "six figure" money that is really someone else's in your Charger just because you can!



True.
WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

Chargerguy74

Quote from: ACUDANUT on March 21, 2015, 09:49:59 AM
IMO , spending crazy money on 73-74 Charger, is like throwing money out the window.
71-72 is a Different story. imo

In my opinion, there are plenty of 71-72 cars that spending money on would be like throwing it out the window. It's the same reason I sold off most of my 72s. I'm curious ACUDANUT, in your "opinion" what makes a 72 charger so much better than a 73/74? Cuz it looks like a 71? I see you always group the 72 in with the 71. I'm dying to hear your expert opinion on this. It sounds to me like you just have 71 Charger envy ;)
WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

ACUDANUT

 Well, 71/72 Chargers have completely different roof/pillars/bodylines.  The 72 (as you know)  were the last year with hide-a-way headlights, louvered taillights, louvered doors and I believe the 150 speedo.
I Am not saying I would not own a 73/74 Charger, I just would not invest 50-100k into one.  :cheers:
  Just my worthless opinion, but you asked.

472 R/T SE

You'd be hard pressed to find anyone better in just the next state over.  Isn't Mr. Moderator Brian, (Charger-Bodie) in Iowa?


He's your man.  Not local, no problem.  I don't think anyone here can disagree that you'll most definitely get your monies worth & have the world class ride when he's done.   :2thumbs:



If not Brian be prepared to give whoever a price.  Every time I've used body/paint guys they want to know your budget?
9 times out of 10 if the resto didn't go over budget, it comes in conveniently about $50-$100 under stated priced from beginning,  :smilielol:  Also, absolutely do not tell the car was handed down to you.  That can be used against you at a later time.  

Make sure they know you're just an average Joe working paycheck to paycheck like most.  

If the finished product is similar to KWS's ride, I don't think the differences between '71-'72 & '72-'73 are gonna show.

By no means am I painting all bodymen with the same brush, just like any other trade bad & good.