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One-man Brake Bleeders, Which is Best?

Started by bill440rt, February 22, 2015, 01:37:46 PM

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bill440rt

Looking at the different types of brake bleeder kits that are out there, and I'd like to get some input of what everyone is using.
Although I do not need a "pro-grade" one, I would like to get one that works so I'd like to find one that really does the job for the home-mechanic.

Any recommendations?  :popcrn:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

Mopar Nut

"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

lasvegas69charg

I got the vacuum bleeder I bought from harbor freight for $20. It connects to your air compressor. It works great. I have used it on the charger, hummer, jeep and escalade when I have changed brake fluid. No issues.
http://t.harborfreight.com/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html
69 dodge charger 383/727/3.55 (my dad is the original owner-matching number) stroked to a 496😉

six-tee-nine

I also have a vacuum tool to connect to the air compressor.

You can also use it to bleed hydraulic clutch lines on all kinds of cars. Works good and I can connect mine fairly easy due to a hose thats on it so I can bleed brakes or change brake fluid without removing the wheels of most cars.
That is if you have the car on a hoist or have a work pit.
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

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Charger-Bodie

Here is a link to the one I have works awesome. its the Phoenix bleeder and it fills it from the bleeder up reoving air in the direction it already wants to go.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Phoenix-Systems-2003-V-12-Pro-Brake-Bleeder-Kit-/311257394029?hash=item487862eb6d&item=311257394029&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

el dub

From reading on the forum on your car I know your a guy who does things himself. Simple solution for 5 dollars.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wwq1Vlk4Wg&feature=player_detailpage#t=9
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Hard Charger

Quote from: lasvegas69charg on February 22, 2015, 04:14:27 PM
I got the vacuum bleeder I bought from harbor freight for $20. It connects to your air compressor. It works great. I have used it on the charger, hummer, jeep and escalade when I have changed brake fluid. No issues.
http://t.harborfreight.com/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html

I tried one of these, didn't work.

whats the secret??

bill440rt

Quote from: Hard Charger on February 23, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Quote from: lasvegas69charg on February 22, 2015, 04:14:27 PM
I got the vacuum bleeder I bought from harbor freight for $20. It connects to your air compressor. It works great. I have used it on the charger, hummer, jeep and escalade when I have changed brake fluid. No issues.
http://t.harborfreight.com/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html

I tried one of these, didn't work.

whats the secret??


I saw mixed reviews on it as well.
So, what IS the secret?   :popcrn:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

b5blue

  Crank up the pressure and remove the restriction safety thing on the nozzle. The vacuum effect is mild at best. For my problem at the time I had to build up full pressure in my compressor tank, use a short hose and let it rip till the tank's pressure was low and keep repeating. In my case the constant mild vacuum eventually overcame the air gaps in my dry lines that gravity and the hand pump Mighty Vac couldn't.  It saved my butt at the time, broke and no time to keep driving to storage where the car had been sitting for many years. I could have kicked myself, a year before I'd bought what I thought was an air brush compressor for cheap. Turns out it was a vacuum pump instead so I resold it as such for 10 bucks. It would have been perfect, life gave me what I needed but I didn't know it.
 

lasvegas69charg

I didn't modify mine. Mine is connect to a 25' air hose to a 22 gal 2 hp compressor. I have never had any issues.
69 dodge charger 383/727/3.55 (my dad is the original owner-matching number) stroked to a 496😉

b5blue

All of my lines had sat bone dry a long time.

Hard Charger

the bleeder I borrowed look identical to the Harbor Freight unit but I believe my friend bought it from Giroux's online.

I was bleeding a brand new brake system. every component was new. The MC was bench bled. I used Dot 5 fluid.

I played with the pressure and did not have any luck siphoning fluid.

Nacho-RT74

gravity, one turn around the block, recheck and done... Thats what I have done with great results ( I'm usually alone )
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

fy469rtse

I also had a lot of issues with a new system,
tried them all ,
Bench bleed master cylinder
the best was pump the peddle , try to get the air worked down , i use a positive bottle attached to the bleeder on each wheel,
pump peddle very slowly, theres fluid already in the bottle,
so as you working peddle , when lifting it sucks fluid back up instead of air,
air will get trapped in places , which will frustrate you, dont be affraid to crack open some lines to help work it out , doesnt always work at the bleeders , i had a lot of trouble with the rears untill i cracked open the lines to rear wheel cylinders , good luck with it  :2thumbs:

bill440rt

Quote from: lasvegas69charg on February 22, 2015, 04:14:27 PM
I got the vacuum bleeder I bought from harbor freight for $20. It connects to your air compressor. It works great. I have used it on the charger, hummer, jeep and escalade when I have changed brake fluid. No issues.
http://t.harborfreight.com/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html


I'm kind of leaning towards this one, or this design.
My systems are all sealed and bled (two person method), so right now trapped air really isn't a concern. I like the fact that this one bleeds the system and aids in changing/flushing fluid at the same time. And I can do it myself without relying on a helper.
Next consideration is the Motive Power Bleeder, but the MC sealing contraption has me concerned. No proper seal, and the next thing you know you have brake fluid all over your inner fender.  :scratchchin:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

b5blue

The "trick" with that one ( For our style master.) is keeping the master full. Alone you must gauge how much is gone without really knowing. The included filler bottle and plastic thingy adapters don't work with our open top rectangle fluid wells. You can set up vacuum, get it going and go up front to just keep adding for a while.

John_Kunkel

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A383Wing

Quote from: lasvegas69charg on February 22, 2015, 04:14:27 PM
I got the vacuum bleeder I bought from harbor freight for $20. It connects to your air compressor. It works great. I have used it on the charger, hummer, jeep and escalade when I have changed brake fluid. No issues.

http://t.harborfreight.com/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html

I just bought this vacuum bleeder last week, works great

bill440rt

Just an update.
I ended up buying the CP one from Harbor Freight.
http://www.harborfreight.com/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html

Looked like a nice little unit. Says it operates between 70-120psi. I had this sucker cranked up, tried it on 2 different brake setups (one stock, the other Wilwood discs). I couldn't get it to do a damn thing other than make a lot of noise. Back to the store it went.

The good news is I found out my 10-yr old son liked to pump the brakes to help out instead. Turned out to be a thrill for him to sit behind the wheel in the driver's seat.   
I still would like to get a different brake bleeder kit, one that actually works.  :shruggy:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

Mopar Nut

Quote from: bill440rt on March 18, 2015, 10:15:21 PM
 
I still would like to get a different brake bleeder kit, one that actually works.  :shruggy:
Motive Power Bleeder, you'll never look back.
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

b5blue

Quote from: Mopar Nut on March 19, 2015, 01:58:06 AM
Quote from: bill440rt on March 18, 2015, 10:15:21 PM
 
I still would like to get a different brake bleeder kit, one that actually works.  :shruggy:
Motive Power Bleeder, you'll never look back.
Testing mine soon.

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: bill440rt on March 18, 2015, 10:15:21 PM
Just an update.
I ended up buying the CP one from Harbor Freight.
http://www.harborfreight.com/brake-fluid-bleeder-92924.html

Looked like a nice little unit. Says it operates between 70-120psi. I had this sucker cranked up, tried it on 2 different brake setups (one stock, the other Wilwood discs). I couldn't get it to do a damn thing other than make a lot of noise. Back to the store it went.

The good news is I found out my 10-yr old son liked to pump the brakes to help out instead. Turned out to be a thrill for him to sit behind the wheel in the driver's seat.   
I still would like to get a different brake bleeder kit, one that actually works.  :shruggy:

That's cool Bill. Working on these cars is fun to me it becomes fifty times as much fun when my son is with me "helping".
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

b5blue

  The Motive Power Bleeder worked fine. I used a big C clamp...not too tight and 6-8lbs pressure. Had fluid running out of the pass. side rear in no time, lots of small bubbles for a while then cleared up. I have leaks at the calipers hoses to deal with but this pump worked as it should.  :2thumbs:

Mopar Nut

Quote from: b5blue on March 21, 2015, 12:47:43 PM
  The Motive Power Bleeder worked fine. I used a big C clamp...not too tight and 6-8lbs pressure. Had fluid running out of the pass. side rear in no time, lots of small bubbles for a while then cleared up. I have leaks at the calipers hoses to deal with but this pump worked as it should.  :2thumbs:
Good to hear, the C clamp sure helps.
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

b5blue

I used the Harbor Freight one as a catch container.

resq302

Bill,

I also have the Motive Power Bleeder and it is an amazing tool.  I've used it at least 10 times now and regularly change out the fluid every 30,000 miles on my daily drivers and every other year on the antiques.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto