1969 Dodge Charger Daytona; 426 Hemi : Openin' the QTP electric dumps...

[hemi68charger]

Well, it's mine.........  

Got some things straightened out on the ole Elephant. Sounds good, but have some tweeking to do. The main concern is an ever-so small coolant leak out coolant passage at the lower front driver's side head gasket. I can see coolant leaking in a very small amount. So, in lew of pulling the whole dang thing out again ( had a head that was 20-thousands out which caused an internal coolant leak ). SO, I will try this product Blue Devil or Bars Copper Head Gasket sealant. Can't hurt. The alternative is to pull the motor and have the deck surfaced......... Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Here she's at about 15 degrees before with a spring kit in it. Total degree comes in about 32. MSD-6A ignition with a Chrysler Electronic as a trigger. Eventually I'll have a Prestolite dual-point that's been converted to electronic pick-up as a trigger for the MSD to give it a sort-of OEM look.



http://youtu.be/pXYsk-t8sfM

[Dave Kanofsky]

Cool!

So when do the Hemi badges go on the doors?

[daytonalo]

Very nice !!! Please get rid of all that crap along car or move to safer location .  By the way what compression is that Hemi ?  To the other reply you must not have watched the video , the badges are on

[hemi68charger]

Cool!

So when do the Hemi badges go on the doors?

What?, like this?  

Albeit, they are temporary now, but I will eventually make them permenant.

Very nice !!! Please get rid of all that crap along car or move to safer location .  By the way what compression is that Hemi ?  To the other reply you must not have watched the video , the badges are on

The compression is about 9.8:1, which is fine by me. This is because I have a '69 440 HP rotating assembly thus bringing the OEM HEMI pistons down in the bore a wee bit. Don't have much choice in the location. I'm glad I have a 4-car garage giving me more room than normal.

[nascarxx29]

ride by teds and andys and rattle there windows 

[hemi68charger]

ride by teds and andys and rattle there windows 

Spoke to Janak Saturday, it's already on my calendar to do that.. 

[djcarguy]

       hope ya get it all sealed an get some run time an enjoyment on you awsum tona this year.



     seems i was reading bout other things acting up with the modern ,new hemi an crate hemis  from ma mopar or someone???   but cant seem to find the treads now? but what are some of the common concerns with new block,casting or crate hemis??

      i have made a offer to a mopar friend that got new block an short block parts an intake an misc,no heads. he got block an part from a buddys estate,, but seems the alum heads walked away or maybe out at a shop no one can remember,is the tale the son is telling!

info or treads,helpful thanks  DJ out west------   nice ride love the black wheel track look

[nascarxx29]

http://www.thehemi.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=471

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=90873

[tan top]

  great stuff !!  sounds good       AB & E Troy    

bummer about it still leaking 

[Redmanf1]

Sounds Great.....

[FJMG]

Coolant leak again?
My hat is off to you for not going berserk! (maybe you are but certainly does not read that way to me)

I wonder if you just try a lower psi rad cap and just keep a closer eye on the temp gauge?

On the plus side.......
You could make money pulling Hemis for others!

[Aero426]

Troy is not the first person to have some teething problems with a Hemi.

[hemi68charger]

Coolant leak again?
...
I wonder if you just try a lower psi rad cap and just keep a closer eye on the temp gauge?

On the plus side.......
You could make money pulling Hemis for others!

Well, I'm not happy. But, it is what it is. I have gotten some other possible solutions and will try that this week.  As of last night, after running the engine for nearly 20 minutes in the garage, the leak seem to all but quit. So, I may be onto something. Sure, I would have rather not put the Copper Liquid Bars stop-leak in it, but heck, what do I have to lose? I believe if I get another round of good outcome tonight, I will begin the process of putting the front suspension back together and get her ready for a drive next weekend. Regarding the temperature, this puppy seems to be running real cool. Granted, I have the thermostat out now for the sealant.. But, just sitting there with no wind going through it, it has been remarkably cool. After 20 minutes, I can place my hands on the valve covers no problem...

[odcics2]

cc'ing the #88 Daytona heads revealed a factory 'wave' on the deck. And these were original from 1969. 

[hemi68charger]

I believe I have the situation under control. As of the last two times I fired her up and ran it for about 30 minutes, no leak. Sooooooooooo, I know "Blue Devil and Bars" isn't the proper thing to do, it'll do for now and I'll monitor the area. The alternative is to remove the motor, again, and tear the whole thing down to deck the block. Sooooooooooooooooo, with that said, this weekend I will put the suspension back together and take her out hopefully...

Thanks for the support everyone... Hopefully the next video will be me cruising down the street in open headers !!!!   

[1970Moparmann]

Can't believe all of the issues you have had with the Hemi.... I hope your leak stopped at this point!     

[lukedukem]

is the engine builder to blame on something like this.... 

luke

[hemi68charger]

is the engine builder to blame on something like this.... 

luke

Well, yes I guess. I did buy it and the builder's in a completely different State. The problem is, without pulling the motor for the 2nd time ( which would involve installing it back for the 3rd time ), one would never know exactly the root cause. At this point in the game, I'm more willing to go down the road with no leaks and just monitor it and the oil as opposed to pulling the motor and having to tear the complete thing down to a bare block. I'm not wanting to do that at this time. If there comes a day when I want to freshen up the paint job on the ole' girl, I would investigate the motor since I would have had to pull the complete drivetrain out anyways...

[nascarxx29]

I have read similar problems on crate motors. Dont they run test them  I  had 1 68 426 car issue after issue[.H]eartache   [E]xhaustion     [ M]ental
Insanity   

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Can't believe all of the issues you have had with the Hemi....

And to think that a perfectly good 440 was shelved for what reason again? 

[odcics2]

I believe I have the situation under control. As of the last two times I fired her up and ran it for about 30 minutes, no leak. Sooooooooooo, I know "Blue Devil and Bars" isn't the proper thing to do, it'll do for now and I'll monitor the area. The alternative is to remove the motor, again, and tear the whole thing down to deck the block. Sooooooooooooooooo, with that said, this weekend I will put the suspension back together and take her out hopefully...

Thanks for the support everyone... Hopefully the next video will be me cruising down the street in open headers !!!!   

I meant the deck of the heads, not the block.  You don't have to pull the engine...   

[hemi68charger]

....

And to think that a perfectly good 440 was shelved for what reason again? 

Because I, me, Troy, have always wanted a Hemi Daytona. I asked Tim Wellborn to trade his Hemi Daytona to me for my T/A, but David Spade won out.... Oh well....

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I meant the deck of the heads, not the block.  You don't have to pull the engine...  

The heads just got done. That was what I did when I pulled the motor two months ago. Water had leaked into the oil pan. Took the complete drivetrains out, separated the motor, removed the heads. They were 20 thousands out and shaved/decked 30, magnafluxed and pressured tested. I believe this recent gremlin wasn't apparent the first time since thicker composite head gaskets were used. This time we put OEM steel head gaskets on and thus happened. The block is a new block... Now that I have asked around, not all new blocks are flawless. Some castings in the past apparently came with instructions to check deck flatness.

[dodgepaul1969]

question for you, did you drill your door for the emblems or find some "stick on" ones. I've been working on my '68 Charger for awhile putting off drilling the doors for the emblems. The holes didn't get done before paint and I'm sweating drilling them now. I haven't been able to find anyone who makes these "stick on". Nice car by the way. Is that a 500 next to your Daytona? I think we spoke years ago about the possibility of it changing hands.

[Hemi Runner]

The heads just got done. That was what I did when I pulled the motor two months ago. Water had leaked into the oil pan. Took the complete drivetrains out, separated the motor, removed the heads. They were 20 thousands out and shaved/decked 30, magnafluxed and pressured tested. I believe this recent gremlin wasn't apparent the first time since thicker composite head gaskets were used. This time we put OEM steel head gaskets on and thus happened. The block is a new block... Now that I have asked around, not all new blocks are flawless. Some castings in the past apparently came with instructions to check deck flatness.

The surface finish on those blocks may be an issue too, especially with a steel shim style of gasket. The composites will seal up a rougher finish than a steel shim which likes a very smooth finish.

[daytonalo]

question for you, did you drill your door for the emblems or find some "stick on" ones. I've been working on my '68 Charger for awhile putting off drilling the doors for the emblems. The holes didn't get done before paint and I'm sweating drilling them now. I haven't been able to find anyone who makes these "stick on". Nice car by the way. Is that a 500 next to your Daytona? I think we spoke years ago about the possibility of it changing hands.

lets keep things simple , why not simply use cut off wheel to remove studs then use dark grey 3M VHB tape and your done . Send me the emblems and ill handle it for ya . FYI They use 3M VHB tape to attach veneers to the side of buildings , super strong stuff . I use it all the time and prefer to heat up a little with heat gun and trust me its not moving . and and all side trim today uses VHB tape

Larry