Grave yard cars

[RUSTY CHIEFTAN]

Does anyone know what is going on over there.I heard Darren,Josh ,Derrick are all no longer employed there .Is the show going to come to an end?

[TUFCAT]

Rumor on Facebook was Josh and Darren were FIRED.

[RUSTY CHIEFTAN]

That show is one of the best car shows around . I loved it.It truly captured the shop setting four guys working always gooffing around.

[twodko]

Way too much contrived drama and not enough real restoration. Mostly bullshit.  

[cdr]

Derrick left also.

[resq302]

While I appreciate the show for the Mopars that are on there, I find that there is a lot of inaccuracies in the information that the show provides.  Entertaining..... to a point.  Accurate..... eh, so so.

[moparnation74]

The variety of Mopars restored there is entertaining to watch.  Where else can we see that in our living room?  The bickering and treatment of employees is another story.

[BB14404SPD]

Rumor on Facebook was Josh and Darren were FIRED.

Where on FB did you see this?

[TUFCAT]

search for John Rose. I'm friends with him on FB.

[polywideblock]

Way too much contrived drama and not enough real restoration. Mostly bullshit.  

                       

[moparnation74]

search for John Rose. I'm friends with him on FB.

Where is the infamous CRESTON!  I am sure he will shed some light here

[472 R/T SE]

Darin was on Facebook mentioning how screwed up it was that the heart & soul of GYC was just run off.

He was trying to rally the troops into making life hard on Mark it sounded like.   




Thing is, Woman most likely has a desk that's stacked full of resumes from qualified bodymen who wouldn't mind working on the low side of scale simply for the fact they get their mug on TV.


Perhaps Velocity stepped in & said that more work needed to be done & less grab ass.  Maybe even Woman's been told, "Hey, we have some body & paint folks that our latest survey says the consumer wants to see these type work with someone like you...we'd like for you to hire them.  It's gonna help ratings."   /Velocity

[RUSTY CHIEFTAN]

Yes alot of shop drama but thats the way most body shops are in  real life.

[polywideblock]

            http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,115409.0.html            

[1974dodgecharger]

I don't understand the problem Graveyard cars restores the BEST cars in the business each car mark restores sells upwards to 500k or more......

[Ghoste]

 

[73rallye440magnum]

Yes alot of shop drama but thats the way most body shops are in  real life.

Not in my experience, and I was working on six and seven figure cars.

Like others have said, too much fabricated drama, not nearly enough work.

[moparnation74]

Yes alot of shop drama but thats the way most body shops are in  real life.

Not in my experience, and I was working on six and seven figure cars.

Like others have said, too much fabricated drama, not nearly enough work.

This was not in my experience as well. 

[Ghoste]

Maybe if they didn't try to these shows were "reality" it would be easier to watch.  I have yet to see GYC but when I do I think I'll just go in with the attitude that I know it's scripted and even though the car and the shop are real and the actors are playing themselves, it's fiction.
If I can be within earshot when my kids are watching Kardashians and not push an icepick into my temple then I know I can sit through GYC. 

[jaak]

My favorite 'car show' to watch is Southwest Rod and Customs (swrnc) channel on Youtube. Now be warned if the 'f-bomb' offends you, that word is used several times per episode. Anyway, at one point, he had so many subscribers and was so popular on Youtube, Discovery Channel contacted Pete about making a reality show. He agreed and they came to his shop to start filming. He said after filming 3 episodes, he ran them off. He said all reality tv is fake (which we all know that), he said during the day while filming he had to do all the acting and fake stuff, then when filming finished, he had to bust his ass all night to catch up on his work, so the cars looked like they were 'progressing' through the episode.


Jason

[mopar4don]

I think It's all a ploy to get more people to watch!

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

I don't understand the problem Graveyard cars restores the BEST cars in the business each car mark restores sells upwards to 500k or more......

They really don't though.  There is a reason they weren't known before the show, and you never see their work in magazines or being certified at Mopar Nats or MCACN.  They do nice restorations.  But they are far from the best.

[sdweatherman]

Way too much contrived drama and not enough real restoration. Mostly bullshit.  

I totally agree - but its the drama (unfortunately) that brings in the highest viewership. I would love it if it was a straight restoration show - but the ratings would not be there to keep it going.

[Charger-Bodie]

Way too much contrived drama and not enough real restoration. Mostly bullshit.  

I totally agree - but its the drama (unfortunately) that brings in the highest viewership. I would love it if it was a straight restoration show - but the ratings would not be there to keep it going.

How is it that the majority of us complain about the drama, but the few think that the drama sells. I am not an algebra whiz ,but that don't add up.

[hawkeye]

Way too much contrived drama and not enough real restoration. Mostly bullshit.  

I totally agree - but its the drama (unfortunately) that brings in the highest viewership. I would love it if it was a straight restoration show - but the ratings would not be there to keep it going.

How is it that the majority of us complain about the drama, but the few think that the drama sells. I am not an algebra whiz ,but that don't add up.

I think you need to look at the demographics of the show's viewers.  Most middle aged white guys have no interest in a bunch of fake drama.  Just the facts, Jack (or Mark as the case may be).   

[Charger-Bodie]

I maybe worded it wrong , but I agree with you. I hate the fake or real drama.

[472 R/T SE]

Drama?

So if GYT was an online restoration Mopar forum, it'd become the #1 site in a matter of days.   

[Ghoste]

Only among a small group of us. 

[JR]

After I blasted GYC in the last thread, I thought later I could of been a bit harsh.

So just this past Sunday night, there was a marathon on and I thought id jump in and see how long I could stand to watch it. Maybe let it redeem itself. I jumped in on the episode that featured a General Lee

I lasted 4 1/2 minutes.  All I saw was idiots pushing cars around for 5 seconds, and then the rest of the time was Wormman threatening his employees chasing them around the shop (and of course doing nothing when he caught them). What a bunch of unprofessional hacks. If I was an employee, he'd have one chance to threaten me like that. No more. If I was a paying customer who discovered what buffoons had my car, id get it back immediately.

I understand they could be playing it up for TV, and if thats the case, they just sold out their reputations as any kind of serious professionals by acting like clowns for how many seasons now?

I find it disappointing how many Mopar guys look up to these dweebs. I can't imagine theres much more reasoning to it other than "I like Mopar, these guys are on a show with Mopars, so they're all right with me."

[moparnation74]

After I blasted GYC in the last thread, I thought later I could of been a bit harsh.

So just this past Sunday night, there was a marathon on and I thought id jump in and see how long I could stand to watch it. Maybe let it redeem itself. I jumped in on the episode that featured a General Lee

I lasted 4 1/2 minutes.  All I saw was idiots pushing cars around for 5 seconds, and then the rest of the time was Wormman threatening his employees chasing them around the shop (and of course doing nothing when he caught them). What a bunch of unprofessional hacks. If I was an employee, he'd have one chance to threaten me like that. No more. If I was a paying customer who discovered what buffoons had my car, id get it back immediately.

I understand they could be playing it up for TV, and if thats the case, they just sold out their reputations as any kind of serious professionals by acting like clowns for how many seasons now?

I find it disappointing how many Mopar guys look up to these dweebs. I can't imagine theres much more reasoning to it other than "I like Mopar, these guys are on a show with Mopars, so they're all right with me."

Me and you JR are on the same page

[polywideblock]

again   


                         really sad part is they had the opportunity to not only do a REAL restoration show ( tips, techniques,  hints etc  , like car fix ) but one about mopars and they dropped the ball   

[dyslexic teddybear]

After I blasted GYC in the last thread, I thought later I could of been a bit harsh.

So just this past Sunday night, there was a marathon on and I thought id jump in and see how long I could stand to watch it. Maybe let it redeem itself. I jumped in on the episode that featured a General Lee

I lasted 4 1/2 minutes.  All I saw was idiots pushing cars around for 5 seconds, and then the rest of the time was Wormman threatening his employees chasing them around the shop (and of course doing nothing when he caught them). What a bunch of unprofessional hacks. If I was an employee, he'd have one chance to threaten me like that. No more. If I was a paying customer who discovered what buffoons had my car, id get it back immediately.

I understand they could be playing it up for TV, and if thats the case, they just sold out their reputations as any kind of serious professionals by acting like clowns for how many seasons now?

I find it disappointing how many Mopar guys look up to these dweebs. I can't imagine theres much more reasoning to it other than "I like Mopar, these guys are on a show with Mopars, so they're all right with me."

Me and you JR are on the same page

I think that same page could get crowded......

When I want info on Mopars, here or another site.

And if for some strange reason, I wanted to watch juvenile drama, I have 4 kids and 7 grandkids for that.

[F8-4life]

Idk about all these opinions about gyc but simply put  television is for entertainment purposes.
Mopars on tv is pretty good entertainment, if you don't like it turn on some Andy Griffith.

[keith88]

  Or dukes of hazzard!

[polywideblock]

but its just like a train wreck   , if its there you just have to look      even if it makes you puke   

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

So just to keep track.  Daren, Josh, Holly and Derrick have all left the show.  That leaves Mark and Royal?  I haven't watched the show in a while.

[mopar4don]

The last time the show was on, (2 weeks ago) they were all in the show (except holly).
At this time I believe the show is in a mid season break.

[lukedukem]

The last time the show was on, (2 weeks ago) they were all in the show (except holly).
At this time I believe the show is in a mid season break.

correct, two weeks ago was the last show and for some reason this has happened before, they skip a week or two during the season and then come back with one or two episodes then take another break. i don't get it
i like the episodes where they review the builds, they did it for the white super-bird and the banana yellow charger. i think they are gonna do it again for another car. when these shows are on they cut out some of the BS and only usually take car stuff from each episode and show that, then show the send off of the car with the owners. but there is still a little BS.


luke

[Charger4404spd]

I've tried to watch it a few times. Only could handle a couple minutes of that bs and had to switch channels. That could be a really good, informative show if not for all the drama crap. I'd much rather watch the guys here on dc.com posting pics of their restorations.

[TUFCAT]

The story is Josh and Mark's Daughter are divorcing, or have divorced.

Okay things happen.  Everyone says he's a good Dad and adores the child.  Things didn't work out with Mom and himself.

Regarding Darren.... he and Josh became very tight behind the scenes.  Darren got all bent out of shape over Josh's release and the fact he was "done dirty", and threatened to quit the show.

There were many more ongoing issues between Darren and Mark .....these "issues" immediately combusted with regard to deteriorating relationship between Mark and Josh.

Mark finally accepted Darren's threats to leave and didn't beg him to stay.....

Since they've parted ways Darren has sided with Josh and has had a major falling out with Mark.

I don't know anything about Derrick leaving.

[moparnation74]

Where is that CRESTON character to enlighten us?

[lukedukem]

Where is that CRESTON character to enlighten us?

I think Tufcat just did. At least that's all I need to know. Divorce sux. I'm a child of it. I was 11. Im 35 now
It's never good no matter age.
I haven't seen previews for the show on velocity in awhile either

Luke

[TUFCAT]

I think Tufcat just did. At least that's all I need to know. Divorce sux. I'm a child of it. I was 11. Im 35 now
It's never good no matter age.
I haven't seen previews for the show on velocity in awhile either

Luke

Yep, the story is true and I got it from a trusted source.  Darren wasn't fired per se .....but his problems with Mark came to a boil immediately after Josh's firing.

Darren often thinks of himself as a celebrity. 

[Highbanked Hauler]

Way too much contrived drama and not enough real restoration. Mostly bullshit.  

     Doing crash work for 36 years I didn't work but only a couple of high end cars but the biggest "drama" we had was ass kissers and thieving managers  and flat rate that can kill ya.

[lukedukem]

I think Tufcat just did. At least that's all I need to know. Divorce sux. I'm a child of it. I was 11. Im 35 now
It's never good no matter age.
I haven't seen previews for the show on velocity in awhile either

Luke

Yep, the story is true and I got it from a trusted source.  Darren wasn't fired per se .....but his problems with Mark came to a boil immediately after Josh's firing.

Darren often thinks of himself as a celebrity. 

Hope darren got his car, and all the parts that were robbed off it to be used on the other cars that were being restored, that was BS, made up for tv or not.

Luke

[moparnation74]

Where is that CRESTON character to enlighten us?

I think Tufcat just did. At least that's all I need to know.

Luke

Luke, the story is obvious, my intent is to have the infamous member Creston who only posts in GYC threads to give us his professional input!!!

[TUFCAT]

Hope darren got his car, and all the parts that were robbed off it to be used on the other cars that were being restored, that was BS, made up for tv or not.

Luke

Darren's Challenger has been sold.

It was hinted on one of the episodes....and was actually true.  I'm totally convinced that all of Darren's footage is taken from actual events....if not "real" then it was re-shot based on the "real-life event" that actually happened.  

Parts were actually taken from his car to help speed up other projects in the shop....and he was really that pissed!     Eventually they were replaced, but that wasn't fake TV drama from what I hear.     

[TUFCAT]

Hello Creston.....?  Anyone out there?      

[F8-4life]

So do you guys think the 35k offer on his challenger was real or for the show?
And was his response real or for show?

[VegasCharger]

The story is Josh and Mark's Daughter are divorcing, or have divorced.

Okay things happen.  Everyone says he's a good Dad and adores the child.  Things didn't work out with Mom and himself.

Regarding Darren.... he and Josh became very tight behind the scenes.  Darren got all bent out of shape over Josh's release and the fact he was "done dirty", and threatened to quit the show.

There were many more ongoing issues between Darren and Mark .....these "issues" immediately combusted with regard to deteriorating relationship between Mark and Josh.

Mark finally accepted Darren's threats to leave and didn't beg him to stay.....

Since they've parted ways Darren has sided with Josh and has had a major falling out with Mark.

I don't know anything about Derrick leaving.

I seen that a mile away when the show was just begining with Josh's foot in the door of being a member GYC. In real life divorce is very common under everyday circumstances that life has to offer. Now let's throw in that Josh is married to Mark's daughter and now works for Mark. Mark now sees Josh most everyday and vise versa. So any little arguments that Josh has with his wife/Mark's daughter is now more magnified and Mark will most likely side with his own daughter putting Josh in the dog house. Now let's add the fact that they have a child together. So now to Josh, Mark is his boss, father-in-law and grandparent to his child. Add the fact that they also have the TV show in which they have to get along in front of the camera (minus the  horsing around BS). This adds up to a failed marraige with all of these obstacles IMHO.

[lukedukem]

Where is that CRESTON character to enlighten us?

I think Tufcat just did. At least that's all I need to know.

Luke

Luke, the story is obvious, my intent is to have the infamous member Creston who only posts in GYC threads to give us his professional input!!!

Oh yeah, that's right. I remember now.

Luke

[Daytona R/T SE]

Where is that CRESTON character to enlighten us?

Maybe he got fired too ?

[2592 creston]

Where is that CRESTON character to enlighten us?

I think Tufcat just did. At least that's all I need to know.

Luke

Luke, the story is obvious, my intent is to have the infamous member Creston who only posts in GYC threads to give us his professional input!!!

       While I am flattered about how much you value my opinion...and how you follow my every word, so that you know I only post on the GYC thread(which is not true by the way)..I am going to let you figure it out all by yourself!!!!!Pretty cool...I never had a stalker before!!!!

[1974dodgecharger]

Mark did that to rex car in fact took some oem piecez and kept em like hennesy did to his customers. 

Hope darren got his car, and all the parts that were robbed off it to be used on the other cars that were being restored, that was BS, made up for tv or not.

Luke

Darren's Challenger has been sold.

It was hinted on one of the episodes....and was actually true.  I'm totally convinced that all of Darren's footage is taken from actual events....if not "real" then it was re-shot based on the "real-life event" that actually happened.  

Parts were actually taken from his car to help speed up other projects in the shop....and he was really that pissed!     Eventually they were replaced, but that wasn't fake TV drama from what I hear.     

[Old Moparz]

Never saw the show & from what I am reading in this thread it sounds like I didn't miss anything.

[moparnation74]

Where is that CRESTON character to enlighten us?

I think Tufcat just did. At least that's all I need to know.

Luke

Luke, the story is obvious, my intent is to have the infamous member Creston who only posts in GYC threads to give us his professional input!!!

       While I am flattered about how much you value my opinion...and how you follow my every word, so that you know I only post on the GYC thread(which is not true by the way)..I am going to let you figure it out all by yourself!!!!!Pretty cool...I never had a stalker before!!!!

Stalker, that is a laugh!  However, your response is typical and it showed which threads you respond to.  Thanks Creston for proving my point!!!!  Also, calling you out for your response is stalking, lol.  So who is following who here

[2592 creston]

Where is that CRESTON character to enlighten us?

I think Tufcat just did. At least that's all I need to know.

Luke

Luke, the story is obvious, my intent is to have the infamous member Creston who only posts in GYC threads to give us his professional input!!!

 
       While I am flattered about how much you value my opinion...and how you follow my every word, so that you know I only post on the GYC thread(which is not true by the way)..I am going to let you figure it out all by yourself!!!!!Pretty cool...I never had a stalker before!!!!

Stalker, that is a laugh!  However, your response is typical and it showed which threads you respond to.  Thanks Creston for proving my point!!!!

Try to stay focused... I saw this thread and didn't post anything until YOU called me out at least 3 times...I was minding my own business until you got me involved!!  Im not sure if you think I am Mark,I assure you I am not!!! I like the show apparently you don't so I let it go .Again by   calling me out in 3 posts I am going to defend myself , and not let someone like you talk shit about me. Since you value my opinion so much here are two suggestion: First If you don't care for my posts don't call me out on them.I didn't say a word , you you practically begged me to post something..(A little weird in my opinion) secondly ,if you don't like GYC don't watch it and don't worry about you gets fired or if they shut down all together....Why do you care? Please try to control your urges and not mention me in your posts!!! Not sure what your up to worrying about what I say so much, while I do not condemn men who live an alternate lifestyle,i assure you I am not one them...Think your barking up the wrong tree,Sorry!

[Charger-Bodie]

Nice rant......

[Ghoste]

Yeah, who needs the show?  We have plenty of drama right here on the site. 

[moparnation74]

Where is that CRESTON character to enlighten us?

I think Tufcat just did. At least that's all I need to know.

Luke

Luke, the story is obvious, my intent is to have the infamous member Creston who only posts in GYC threads to give us his professional input!!!

 
       While I am flattered about how much you value my opinion...and how you follow my every word, so that you know I only post on the GYC thread(which is not true by the way)..I am going to let you figure it out all by yourself!!!!!Pretty cool...I never had a stalker before!!!!

Stalker, that is a laugh!  However, your response is typical and it showed which threads you respond to.  Thanks Creston for proving my point!!!!

Try to stay focused... I saw this thread and didn't post anything until YOU called me out at least 3 times...I was minding my own business until you got me involved!!  Im not sure if you think I am Mark,I assure you I am not!!! I like the show apparently you don't so I let it go .Again by   calling me out in 3 posts I am going to defend myself , and not let someone like you talk shit about me. Since you value my opinion so much here are two suggestion: First If you don't care for my posts don't call me out on them.I didn't say a word , you you practically begged me to post something..(A little weird in my opinion) secondly ,if you don't like GYC don't watch it and don't worry about you gets fired or if they shut down all together....Why do you care? Please try to control your urges and not mention me in your posts!!! Not sure what your up to worrying about what I say so much, while I do not condemn men who live an alternate lifestyle,i assure you I am not one them...Think your barking up the wrong tree,Sorry!

Lol, are you done.  Or will you post more for me to laugh at!  Your choice!

[djcarguy]

     SUPERBIRD ANOTHER BIRD HAS SHOWED UP AT MARKS NEW SHOP LOCAL?   LOTS MORE MOPARS ARE TURNING UP THERE TOO?

     WHO IS LEFT TO WORK ON THEM AN

  WHO IS THERE TO SEE----- THE WELDS AN WORK EVER GETS DONE???

    LIKE 5TH SHOP I KNOW OF FOR MARK IN SPRINGFEILD,HAS LOTS MORE PAVED YARD AN BETTER BIG FENCE???   DJ OUT WEST ONLY SAW 1ST PERSEASON SHOW WAY LAST YEAR FOR THIS SEASON?               GOOD LUCK TO THE CAR OWNERS  

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Darren's departure will be no loss at all. Long Turd isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer & with him gone, it will be interesting to see who they are replaced with. That is, if the show comes back.

[djcarguy]

 2SUPERBIRDS SETTING OUTSIDE, 1 WHITE ,1 SUBLIME????WHO?



      40 - 50 MOPARS OUTSIDE THE SHOP??  AS OF 6 AM THIS MORNING.WAS HEADED HOME FROM WIN-CO food shop..  lattt er DJ 6-14-15

[super77se]

After I blasted GYC in the last thread, I thought later I could of been a bit harsh.

So just this past Sunday night, there was a marathon on and I thought id jump in and see how long I could stand to watch it. Maybe let it redeem itself. I jumped in on the episode that featured a General Lee

I lasted 4 1/2 minutes.  All I saw was idiots pushing cars around for 5 seconds, and then the rest of the time was Wormman threatening his employees chasing them around the shop (and of course doing nothing when he caught them). What a bunch of unprofessional hacks. If I was an employee, he'd have one chance to threaten me like that. No more. If I was a paying customer who discovered what buffoons had my car, id get it back immediately.

I understand they could be playing it up for TV, and if thats the case, they just sold out their reputations as any kind of serious professionals by acting like clowns for how many seasons now?

I find it disappointing how many Mopar guys look up to these dweebs. I can't imagine theres much more reasoning to it other than "I like Mopar, these guys are on a show with Mopars, so they're all right with me."

same here and I couldn't agree more. I decided to actually give it a second chance , it wasn't 5 minutes in before the lame drama started in. I would love to see an actual Mopar restoration show that I can soak in a little knowledge from instead of this intelligence insulting romper room stupidity. after fast forwarding through the commercials and BS of a recorded one hour program , there was less than 15 minutes of actual car building. the beauty of my remote control is I can change the channel and never watch another episode.

[hatersaurusrex]

If Mark wanted to stick to the 'reality' format that gets the ratings - he could keep the drama and yuks for the network show (because some people actually do like that crap, God knows why) and then make a web-only companion series series that focuses in-depth on the technical aspects of the resto with more of the stories behind the cars.

Lots of shows nowadays have web companion series and offshoots like that.  I think lots of guys here would just watch or stream that one and skip the network one entirely.  It could have the same ads and whatnot - I mean you gotta keep the lights on.   In fact Tony's Parts or Bad Dog Blasters or whoever could do entire segments on how their products are made.  I'd watch 30 minutes of how a blast cabinet is put together, but your average Velocity channel person wouldn't give a flip.

[Ghoste]

And the thing is, he's probably a good guy to hang out with.  (cuz I hate the show)