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The '69 Charger Tail light lenses and chrome bezels from Classic industries...

Started by Daytona R/T SE, February 15, 2015, 01:55:23 PM

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moparnation74

Quote from: stripedelete on February 24, 2015, 01:07:30 PM
Quote from: moparnation74 on February 24, 2015, 11:40:32 AM
Quote from: stripedelete on February 24, 2015, 11:21:29 AM
Quote from: moparnation74 on February 24, 2015, 10:35:50 AM
Do you claim the same when you deliver a personal package at a delivery service for half the cost?  However, the delivery services have the same expenses as you eluded to earlier.  So in the end they offer a good price on a part to compete with their competitors and markup the overall difference through high shipping rates.


Please expand on this, I'm not sure I'm getting your point. :scratchchin:
They use the same carrier the consumer can use.  They also get cheaper shipping than the consumer does.  So the same package size and weight is cheaper for the company versus consumer cost.  The markup is then placed by the company to recoup what they deem is a profit margin.  The companies drivers, packaging, marketings and equipment is the cost of doing business.  Not the consumers responsibility to cover through shipping costs.  While exec's are raking in large salaries and bonuses.

However, those expenses you referred to is the same for the carriers the consumer can ship through at a cheaper cost.  Drivers, gas, insurance, packaging, marketing, etc.

A service aka shipping options, provided at a cost for profit that involves the product offered is a disservice and elusive to the consumer.






Okay.  I think I get it now.  I just didn't understand the "1/2 cost."  If I'm reading you right, you are correct.  Some of my deliveries use less fuel, and require less time, yet I charge the same.  But, in terms of actual costs they are not that different.  I'm pretty local, so I can't get to the level of "granularity" of UPS and therefore CI.  

I doubt the owner of CI is "walking in high cotton", but, that's a matter of perspective.

If you view is shipping and handling as all part of the same revenue stream, then the matter simply boils down to the fact that "you have to charge enough to stay in business".  When it comes to our deliveries, our perspective is,
"we can sit still and go broke". ;)

Shipping is just one example of how they obtain their profits.  Also, is the one example as a consumer we can see on paper the discrepancy.  Actual cost versus initial cost.  The markup on parts is another topic.  The salaries of upper management versus the average worker is another profit driven tool but that's another topic as well.

Stripedelete, your points are heard and well taken.  Comparing you with another business is comparing apples to oranges.  Your business capabilities are in a different class. :2thumbs:  They are not mere words.  

Hard Charger

shipping and handling keeps the doors open and the lights on.

no question returns, nice web sight, usually reliable quality, defects, material coming and going take a big bite out of the profits. quick response and reliable service is costly and need to be addressed. many of the smaller suppliers never handle there products directly. the larger places like Classic and Year One warehouse a lot of what they sell. $$$

the shipping and handling charge allows them to keep butts in the chairs and boots on the ground.

it sucks but you have other choices you could use. Convenience means higher price.

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Hard Charger on February 25, 2015, 04:13:12 PM
shipping and handling keeps the doors open and the lights on.

no question returns, nice web sight, usually reliable quality, defects, material coming and going take a big bite out of the profits. quick response and reliable service is costly and need to be addressed. many of the smaller suppliers never handle there products directly. the larger places like Classic and Year One warehouse a lot of what they sell. $$$

the shipping and handling charge allows them to keep butts in the chairs and boots on the ground.

it sucks but you have other choices you could use. Convenience means higher price.


I cant speak for Classic,but from what alot of the venders tell me Year 1 dont stock most of the mopar stuff. They have the vender ship it it y1 boxes.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Hard Charger

Quote from: Charger-Bodie on February 25, 2015, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: Hard Charger on February 25, 2015, 04:13:12 PM
shipping and handling keeps the doors open and the lights on.

no question returns, nice web sight, usually reliable quality, defects, material coming and going take a big bite out of the profits. quick response and reliable service is costly and need to be addressed. many of the smaller suppliers never handle there products directly. the larger places like Classic and Year One warehouse a lot of what they sell. $$$

the shipping and handling charge allows them to keep butts in the chairs and boots on the ground.

it sucks but you have other choices you could use. Convenience means higher price.


I cant speak for Classic,but from what alot of the venders tell me Year 1 dont stock most of the mopar stuff. They have the vender ship it it y1 boxes.

there big warehouse isn't full of paperclips and copy paper.

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Hard Charger on February 25, 2015, 04:44:19 PM
Quote from: Charger-Bodie on February 25, 2015, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: Hard Charger on February 25, 2015, 04:13:12 PM
shipping and handling keeps the doors open and the lights on.

no question returns, nice web sight, usually reliable quality, defects, material coming and going take a big bite out of the profits. quick response and reliable service is costly and need to be addressed. many of the smaller suppliers never handle there products directly. the larger places like Classic and Year One warehouse a lot of what they sell. $$$

the shipping and handling charge allows them to keep butts in the chairs and boots on the ground.

it sucks but you have other choices you could use. Convenience means higher price.


I cant speak for Classic,but from what alot of the venders tell me Year 1 dont stock most of the mopar stuff. They have the vender ship it it y1 boxes.

there big warehouse isn't full of paperclips and copy paper.

I didn't say they didn't stock any parts, just not much mopar parts. Most of there business is f body gm stuff , and that's what they have the most of.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............


Mopar Nut

"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."


Charger-Bodie

I'll give props if I find out that they took them out of their catalog pending the outcome of making the changes nessasary to use these without problems.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

A383Wing


Daytona R/T SE

There is no real victory here.

No cause to celebrate.

It's been over a month since I ordered these parts. (1/30/15 ...I think.)

I finally got my refund.


Now...

I'm back at zero. ::)






Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: Charger-Bodie on March 07, 2015, 08:43:46 AM
I'll give props if I find out that they took them out of their catalog pending the outcome of making the changes nessasary to use these without problems.

I was told by C.I. that they have been pulled from inventory until the problem can be resolved.

Charger-Bodie

If that true than I also take my hat off to them. Great work Classic!
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

A383Wing

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on March 07, 2015, 04:51:39 PM
There is no real victory here.

No cause to celebrate.

It's been over a month since I ordered these parts. (1/30/15 ...I think.)

I finally got my refund.


Now...

I'm back at zero. ::)


I don't care, yer still buying pizza and we are all still coming over....deal with it

Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: A383Wing on March 07, 2015, 06:19:11 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on March 07, 2015, 04:51:39 PM
There is no real victory here.

No cause to celebrate.

It's been over a month since I ordered these parts. (1/30/15 ...I think.)

I finally got my refund.


Now...

I'm back at zero. ::)


I don't care, yer still buying pizza and we are all still coming over....deal with it

I didn't say I wouldn't pay for the pizza, but none of that carry out/delivery crap.

There's a place here that's run by a real live Italian guy...good stuff.

So, get yer ass over here...

NOW! ;)

A383Wing


MxRacer855

I bought new taillight housing and bezel mounting hardware and studs for my '68 from Year One...
Same thing, short.

2 studs for each bezel (4 there for both bezels), 5 studs for each housing (there's another 10), so I needed 14 altogether but only get 8???

If they were sending them just for the bezels I would have only 4, and just for the housing, 10.  By why 8???!  :shruggy:

That's a little half-baked right there...  :Twocents:

Jeff

Ghoste


fy469rtse

Yep Jeff welcome to the restoration world ,
Full of frustrations on things you have no control over,
Just go down to the hardware and get some all thread , beats waiting for it  :Twocents:
Oh and photos please  :popcrn: :popcrn: not good at waiting  ::)


Charger-Bodie

I just used the studs and nuts from my original housings when I did my 69. Be careful tightening the nuts that hold the housing to the tail panel. the housing isnt as thick as the original ones. I pulled one through,but Mike at B/e&a sent me a replacement.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

MxRacer855


Lord Warlock

Does CI sell the tail light chrome trim still? I'm not seeing it on their website, but I may not be clicking the right link, search  hasn't worked there. 
69 RT/SE Y3 cream yellow w/tan vinyl top and black r/t stripe. non matching 440/375, 3:23, Column shift auto w/buddy seat, tan interior, am/fm w/fr to back fade, Now wears 17" magnum 500 rims and Nitto tires. Fresh repaint, new interior, new wheels and tires.

69 OUR/TEA

When I bought mine from Mike , he insisted I send him my taillights and he would install/glue on the trim . Got them back , they were securely on , nice and tight , but did not perfectly follow the orig contours of the plastic taillight . Plus , the surface of the trim is more rounded versus the crisp pointy edge as the originals . But , the chrome was real nice , and most would not pick that out .
On that note , since reading this thread , I'm pretty confident there is only one manufacturer of these bezels , BE/A / PG Classics , so doesn't matter where you buy them , they are the same .
On another note , my car I'm restoring right now , the taillight bezels are maybe a 9 out of a 10 , very few and very small "peppering" on them , way above average for an original , I think I'm going to roll with leaving them on my taillights and re-use them on the car .

69 OUR/TEA

BTW , it sounds like they fit better on orig lenses versus the repo lenses , so maybe orig lenses/repo bezels is the way to go .