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Brian Williams From NBC Career Implosion? Thoughts about this Lying Journalist..

Started by TUFCAT, February 10, 2015, 08:48:24 PM

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ODZKing

Like Nixon, do you think he is the ONLY one to ever do something like this?
I worked at a station with a huge news department for many years, this "embellishing" the news and twisting the facts happens all the time. Simple headlines are twisted to get you to read the story and the you realize it wasn't what you thought at all.
It's all about the money machine my friends. If it bleeds, it leads as they used to say. I don't think they'll ever hear a newscaster come on and say "nothing going on today, here's a Tom & Jerry cartoon.   :smilielol:

TUFCAT

I'm really not surprised by his suspension...but what's the plans for NBC??  Bring him back?

This douche always seemed smarmy and weirdly impressed by his own self image and "out of touch" with everyday folks....he was way to interested in his own superiority issues.



ODZKing

An interview I saw on CNN siad basically NBC issues a statement saying he "deserves a second chance" but between the lines they mean a second chance but not with NBC.
In short he won't be back in August.
Quote from: TUFCAT on February 11, 2015, 09:36:28 AM
I'm really not surprised by his suspension...but what's the plans for NBC??  Bring him back?

This douche always seemed smarmy and weirdly impressed by his own self image and "out of touch" with everyday folks....he was way to interested in his own superiority issues.

moparnation74

Quote from: ODZKing on February 11, 2015, 11:10:52 AM
An interview I saw on CNN siad basically NBC issues a statement saying he "deserves a second chance" but between the lines they mean a second chance but not with NBC.
In short he won't be back in August.
Quote from: TUFCAT on February 11, 2015, 09:36:28 AM
I'm really not surprised by his suspension...but what's the plans for NBC??  Bring him back?

This douche always seemed smarmy and weirdly impressed by his own self image and "out of touch" with everyday folks....he was way to interested in his own superiority issues.
Second chance, lol.  Why is it these high profile people with massive incomes, can move around so easily?
Example.  A competitor hospitals CEO vowed for that facility to overcome our facility.  At a point our CEO retired and that previous guy I mentioned left his and became our CEO.  Preaching the opposite.  After a year and his shananagans he was fired.  Then moved on as a CEO at another hospital in a different state.  It is baffling how these people get shuffled around.

stripedelete

I agree.  A suspension takes it out of the news cycle.  In the fall they will announce his release with some terrorist attack or oil spill.

While I agree the news media in general is far to involved in making the news, this situation is was all about Brian.   If he were in another line of work his resume would be bogus.  He would be claiming other's accomplishments, non existent training, or degrees, etc.   His golf score would, or probably is,   always artificially low etc.

I worked with a guy like this.  He presented well.   He didn't care who his lies harmed.  He was promoted on lies.  It was years before they caught up to him.   He was a true sociopath.


And let not forget:

"It's not a lie if you believe it",  George Costanza     

moparnation74

Quote from: stripedelete on February 11, 2015, 11:42:02 AM
I agree.  A suspension takes it out of the news cycle.  In the fall they will announce his release with some terrorist attack or oil spill.

While I agree the news media in general is far to involved in making the news, this situation is was all about Brian.   If he were in another line of work his resume would be bogus.  He would be claiming other's accomplishments, non existent training, or degrees, etc.   His golf score would, or probably is,   always artificially low etc.

I worked with a guy like this.  He presented well.   He didn't care who his lies harmed.  He was promoted on lies.  It was years before they caught up to him.   He was a true sociopath.


And let not forget:

"It's not a lie if you believe it",  George Costanza     
Great points!  Especially, the sociopath part! :2thumbs:

TUFCAT


el dub

NBC, liberal crap. :down: Brian Williams, its what happens when you lie. I believe a liar is also a thief and a cheat.
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

ACUDANUT

Quote from: ODZKing on February 11, 2015, 09:12:44 AM
Like Nixon, do you think he is the ONLY one to ever do something like this?
I worked at a station with a huge news department for many years, this "embellishing" the news and twisting the facts happens all the time. Simple headlines are twisted to get you to read the story and the you realize it wasn't what you thought at all.
It's all about the money machine my friends. If it bleeds, it leads as they used to say. I don't think they'll ever hear a newscaster come on and say "nothing going on today, here's a Tom & Jerry cartoon.   :smilielol:

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[/b] Another liar trying to be a hero.  Sounds like John Kerry
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I never expected this to become political so please only post about lying journalists (Brian Williams in particular)  - and let's not cross the line into politics.  :2thumbs:

Only journalists are fair game here.... :icon_smile_wink:  :icon_smile_cool:


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I guess this does not apply to all.

keith88

What is the big deal Fox news Lies about EVERYTHING all the time and no one even seems to care, Little one sided if you ask me...should he not have said it ..sure but to have everyone tear him up and spit him out is BS when a news agency like fox news can get away with the sh__ they do!!!! :icon_bs: :horse:
1969 Charger  Orange /black top  (1989) 360 engine stock with added xtreme comp cam and a 4 bbl  , 904 trans/shift kit , 8-1/4 rear.. with general lee accents.


stripedelete

Quote from: keith88 on February 11, 2015, 12:20:25 PM
What is the big deal Fox news Lies about EVERYTHING all the time and no one even seems to care, Little one sided if you ask me...should he not have said it ..sure but to have everyone tear him up and spit him out is BS when a news agency like fox news can get away with the sh__ they do!!!! :icon_bs: :horse:

I agree with you about Fox.  It's frightening how many drink the FOX Kool-Aid straight up.  Especially women.

If you can stand her way far left position, Rachel Maddaw, MSNBC, does a good job of calling out FOX. 

keith88

 Sorry, You are not a very smart person Its been proven many times that they lie and sway there news for there own agenda like noone else.
1969 Charger  Orange /black top  (1989) 360 engine stock with added xtreme comp cam and a 4 bbl  , 904 trans/shift kit , 8-1/4 rear.. with general lee accents.

Cooter

See my problem is......with all this sudden stolen valor. You didn't see nobody lying to claim they were in the Vietnam war when those guys/gals came back. It's a slap in the face to all who served there, but this is a kick in the nuts.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

keith88

He didn't lie about being there ,he lied about being in the chopper that was hit. Could have just as easily been his. And he was giving our military full credit for helping him to where he was going.
1969 Charger  Orange /black top  (1989) 360 engine stock with added xtreme comp cam and a 4 bbl  , 904 trans/shift kit , 8-1/4 rear.. with general lee accents.

ACUDANUT

Quote from: keith88 on February 11, 2015, 12:32:04 PM
Sorry, You are not a very smart person Its been proven many times that they lie and sway there news for there own agenda like noone else.

Whatever.  Stick with your liberal media, and I stick with the truth. FOX

keith88

1969 Charger  Orange /black top  (1989) 360 engine stock with added xtreme comp cam and a 4 bbl  , 904 trans/shift kit , 8-1/4 rear.. with general lee accents.

moparnation74

I personally do not put much credit for news from any reporting outlet.  It is nothing more than reality TV shows.  The goal is mainly ratings and sponsors and at any cost.

TUFCAT

This reminds me a lot of the 4-door Barracuda concept story... written by Roger C. Johnson in some obscure magazine....called "Cars and Parts"

He worked as a mail-boy at Chrysler in 1969, and claims to have seen (what apprared to him ) as a running, driving, prototype 1970 Barracuda 4-door...painted red with Rallye wheels .

Now it might be hard for some to dispute his story on this one particular point (which was the only basis formed for his credibility). He claims he was in a position to sometimes be in "the right place" at some points to see bits and pieces of stuff he ("wasn't supposed to see")... and of course, he saw all the stuff everyone else would have seen who worked there.....like at least a thousand others might see in any given day at Chrysler's Highland Park Engineering complex.

Fast forward to him becoming a free lance journalst in the late 2000,s. He unwisely choses to fabricate a complete lie..... using some colorful details to describe a red 4-door Barracuda unicorn wearing rallye wheels (a running and driving prototype mind you....) that was seen only by him - - and nobody else on the planet.

Here's the problem with these supposed "journalists" - - and this dude claims to be an "Automotive Histrorian"  :shruggy:  ....is that when their lies are published there's always someone out there who knows much more about the story than he claimed was true.....and these people will always talk.  

The story has been uncovered as a falsehood. If there was a single shred of credible evidence it would have found by now.

The sad part is that some people actually believe stuff without any interest in knowing whether its true.   Even if they had a gold plated road map to the truth....they wouldn't care to find out.  It was printed in a magazine - so it must be true!

For the record, this Roger C. Johnson is a legit freelance guy in the automotive world.  I'm pretty sure he realizes he never saw the car.....and wishes he never wrote the story.  But he will not come out and recant it.

Proper historical proof requires investigation and hard evidence.  When it never turns up, or is determined to be a big fat falsehood made-up story, credibility goes out the window. ....and the people "who were there" generally get pissed off.

....just like the brave soldiers that were on that Chinook helicopter with Brian Williams.

el dub

entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

moparnation74

Quote from: TUFCAT on February 11, 2015, 02:02:33 PM
This reminds me a lot of the 4-door Barracuda concept story... written by Roger C. Johnson in some obscure magazine....called "Cars and Parts"

He worked as a mail-boy at Chrysler in 1969, and claims to have seen (wjhat apprared to him ) as a running, driving , protype 1970 Barracuda 4-door .

Now its hard to dispute his story one one particular point, which is the only basis for his credibility. He claims he was in a position to sometimes be in "the right place" at some points to see bits and pieces of stuff he ("wasn't supposed to see)... and of course, he saw all the stuff everyone else would have seen who worked there.....like at least a thousand others might see in any given day at Chrysler's Highland Park Engineering complex.

Fast forward to him becoming a free lance journalst in the late 2000,s. He unwisely choses to fabricate a complete lie..... using some colorful details to describe a unicoirn that was seen by him - - and nobody else on the planet.

The problem with these supposed "journalists" - - and this dude claims to be an "Automotive Histrorian"  :shruggy:  ....is that when their lies are published there's always someone out there who knows much more about the story than he claimed was true.....and these people will always talk.  

The story has been uncovered as a falsehood. If there was a single shred of credible evidence it would have found by now.

The sad part is that some people actually believe stuff without any interest in knowing whether its true.   Even if they had a gold plated road map to the truth....they wouldn't care to find out.  It was printed in a magazine - so it must be true!

For the record, this Roger C. Johnson is a legit freelance guy in the automotive world.  I'm pretty sure he realizes he never saw the car.....and wishes he never wrote the story.  But he will not come out and recant it.

Proper historical proof requires investigation and hard evidence.  When it never turns up, or is determined to be a big fate falsehood made-up story, credibility goes out the window. ....and the people who were there generally get pissed.

That is a very good analogy to Brian Williams.  These two guys are sitting back now saying, "man I should have kept my mouth shut!"

Johnson is just like Williams, let me make my footprint in the automotive world by describing the Unicorn, four door barracuda.  Seen by a mail room clerk with no access :brickwall:  No pictures, no documents, no one else from Chrysler at that time to support that! 

That is the problem with people with these traits they just cannot stop.  The lie manifests and until it hits a head and the truth comes out they will defend it at any cost.


Ponch ®

Kinda sucks...I generally don't think much of mainstream journalists but I always thought this guy was pretty reliable and trustworthy.

I think the bigger point here is that if he made stuff up (and he was one of "the best"), it's safe to assume that other journalists have done/are doing the same things to promote themselves or a specific agenda.


Oh well, at least his daughter is hot.
"I spent most of my money on cars, birds, and booze. The rest I squandered." - George Best

Chrysler Performance West

Old Moparz

Quote from: ACUDANUT on February 11, 2015, 12:48:24 PM

Whatever.  Stick with your liberal media, and I stick with the truth. FOX


Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal owns a 7 percent stake in News Corp — the parent company of Fox News — making him the largest shareholder outside the family of News Corp CEO Rupert Murdoch. Alwaleed has grown close with the Murdoch enterprise, recently endorsing James Murdoch to succeed his father and creating a content-sharing agreement with Fox News for his own media conglomerate, Rotana.

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2010/02/10/81482/right-rebels-foxnews/
               Bob               



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TUFCAT

Quote from: Ponch ® on February 11, 2015, 02:58:30 PM


Oh well, at least his daughter is hot.


Maybe he's lying - and that's not really his daughter?  :shruggy: :D     I'm betting she doesn't have his crooked nose either!  :nana:  I'm also starting to wonder if William's saw a 4-door 'Cuda as well?


ACUDANUT

Let's remember one thing here. Who among here, have never said something, that wish we could take back.  I am one of those.  :brickwall: