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How to make your small block sound big

Started by keith88, February 08, 2015, 09:28:26 PM

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keith88

I have a 318 in my charger and when i got it last year one of the mufflers were blown out so i needed to put a new one on so i put on a new system from the headers back using 2 1/2 pipe kit from jegs a set of glasspacks from summit that I ran on another car i had and it made my small block sound like it has more motor than it dose.  I did have to add a couple of small pieces of pipe because the kit is not meant for the glasspacks but it all worked out. here a couple photos and a couple videos of it.




Here it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx54i2fFrd4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggF2pIkT4CQ
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what other goodies did you put in the 440?

Lennard

Glasspack mufflers are the worst mufflers you can pick performance wise. They increase back pressure. :Twocents:

RallyeMike

QuoteGlasspack mufflers are the worst mufflers you can pick performance wise. The increase back pressure. Twocents

With 2-1/2" twin pipes on a 318 the difference in HP between ANY muffler from worst to best is almost nothing. He may even benefit from more back pressure.

Its sounds great.
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JB400

Sounds good, but what toy are the slicks for? :popcrn:

keith88

Quote from: JB400 on February 08, 2015, 11:30:24 PM
Sounds good, but what toy are the slicks for? :popcrn:
Sorry nothing big.. I use it as a buffer between my wife's car and the charger in the winter. I have enough room to put my car across the back of my garage for the winter,than i can get my jeep and her rav 4 in for the winter as well. Its from a race team i used to work on in the bush north series at the time.
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keith88

Quote from: Lennard on February 08, 2015, 10:41:55 PM
Glasspack mufflers are the worst mufflers you can pick performance wise. They increase back pressure. :Twocents:

I had them on a 69 built 350  camaro i sold to buy this and they worked just fine, but thanks for the concern.
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badass sound  >  slight difference in power
   

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Brass

Quote from: Lennard on February 08, 2015, 10:41:55 PM
Glasspack mufflers are the worst mufflers you can pick performance wise. They increase back pressure. :Twocents:


Why?  Aren't they a straight-through design?

Lennard

I've seen an exhaust company do a muffler test (in person) and the glasspack was reducing the exhaust flow and performance.
I have no proof other than what I've seen with my own eyes, that's why it's just my  :Twocents:

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6spd68

Another good set of mufflers to get more noise out of a small block are Magnaflow Straight Open mufflers.  They're nowhere near as loud, but will still carry that deep throaty growl.  Have had both on my 347SBF, loved the glasspacks with every morsel of my young soul, however the Toronto Police Force did not...  That was a fun court case  :eek2:
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Are you installing a drive shaft loop? Just in case.
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keith88

No it dont need a drive shaft loop. :smilielol: As far as the performance comments..... Its a 318 its not a performance car its a driver so a gain or loss in performance dont really matter to me. I want a mean sound, want bark not bite in this case. I just got rid of a pass any thing but a gas station car with those same mufflers and it held its own. I will not be racing anyone in this car. :nana:
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toocheaptosmoke

Oh yeah, that's a good combo, love me some glass packs!  :coolgleamA:


HPP

Quote from: Brass on February 09, 2015, 03:20:40 PM
Quote from: Lennard on February 08, 2015, 10:41:55 PM
Glasspack mufflers are the worst mufflers you can pick performance wise. They increase back pressure. :Twocents:


Why?  Aren't they a straight-through design?

There are a lot of dynamics to it all other than just the sound.  If you talk to any of the FAST drivers, most of them are using Dynomax Pro Flo mufflers because they not only reduce the sounds to a low rumble, but they also scavenge better than an open exhaust and can generate additional flow through the system, which is a big deal when you are limited to factory manifolds.

moparnation74

Quote from: HPP on February 10, 2015, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Brass on February 09, 2015, 03:20:40 PM
Quote from: Lennard on February 08, 2015, 10:41:55 PM
Glasspack mufflers are the worst mufflers you can pick performance wise. They increase back pressure. :Twocents:


Why?  Aren't they a straight-through design?

There are a lot of dynamics to it all other than just the sound.  If you talk to any of the FAST drivers, most of them are using Dynomax Pro Flo mufflers because they not only reduce the sounds to a low rumble, but they also scavenge better than an open exhaust and can generate additional flow through the system, which is a big deal when you are limited to factory manifolds.
Well stated!  I use the dynomax pro flo and have been extremely pleased!

66FBCharger

Quote from: moparnation74 on February 10, 2015, 10:56:23 AM
Quote from: HPP on February 10, 2015, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: Brass on February 09, 2015, 03:20:40 PM
Quote from: Lennard on February 08, 2015, 10:41:55 PM
Glasspack mufflers are the worst mufflers you can pick performance wise. They increase back pressure. :Twocents:


Why?  Aren't they a straight-through design?

There are a lot of dynamics to it all other than just the sound.  If you talk to any of the FAST drivers, most of them are using Dynomax Pro Flo mufflers because they not only reduce the sounds to a low rumble, but they also scavenge better than an open exhaust and can generate additional flow through the system, which is a big deal when you are limited to factory manifolds.
Well stated!  I use the dynomax pro flo and have been extremely pleased!
Are there the same benefits using Dynomax Pro Flow mufflers with headers vs. factory manifolds?
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HPP

Good question that I don't know the specific answer to. I doubt they would hurt too much as they tend to have a very high cfm capability.  Borla is another one that has some tremendous flow potential.  Not all muffler makers are really forthcoming with this info and searching the web produces a lot of conflicting info. Of course, the FAST guys are also porting the stock manifolds with extrude honing to clean up the flow as much as  possible. A well massaged set of FAST manifolds would probably outflow a cheap set up headers, if you come right down to it. Of course they may spend as much time and money getting them there as some of us do on are entire engine build.

JesseJames78

Sounds awesome! When I first saw your car in the corner, this was first thing that came to mind: :rofl:

TUFCAT

Ford Ecoboost V6 engines have fake V8 noises coming from the stereo!

Engine sounds of EcoBoost engines are being auto-tuned through the stereo speakers.

FoMoCo claims:

Turbocharged engines are inherently quieter than normally aspirated counterparts, because the compressor's turbine sits in the path of the exhaust and thus smooths out the outgoing sound. High performance turbo motors often sounds like jet engines, where all you hear is the sounds rushing air as it's sucked in and expelled.

Ford points out that there is nothing "fake" about the engine sound coming from the stereo. This sound is not synthesized by the computer. It is the sound wave from the engine that has been altered to amplify some frequencies and cancel others.

The video is also attached here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9_bhlzJpKI

keith88

Quote from: JesseJames78 on February 10, 2015, 03:28:41 PM
Sounds awesome! When I first saw your car in the corner, this was first thing that came to mind: :rofl:
Thanks ,believe me i dont like it in the corner either but its safe there until all the snow here is gone.  I WANT SPRING!!   :RantExplode:
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1974dodgecharger

WTF  :icon_smile_big:  looks like they copied the mustangs V8 sound and just put in the speakers of the 4 banger, lmao.

Quote from: TUFCAT on February 10, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
Ford Ecoboost V6 engines have fake V8 noises coming from the stereo!

Engine sounds of EcoBoost engines are being auto-tuned through the stereo speakers.

FoMoCo claims:

Turbocharged engines are inherently quieter than normally aspirated counterparts, because the compressor's turbine sits in the path of the exhaust and thus smooths out the outgoing sound. High performance turbo motors often sounds like jet engines, where all you hear is the sounds rushing air as it's sucked in and expelled.

Ford points out that there is nothing "fake" about the engine sound coming from the stereo. This sound is not synthesized by the computer. It is the sound wave from the engine that has been altered to amplify some frequencies and cancel others.

The video is also attached here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9_bhlzJpKI


69bronzeT5

Sounds great!! I have a 318 in my 1973 Duster. Hooker Comp headers into a full Flowmaster system...

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keith88

Quote from: TUFCAT on February 10, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
Ford Ecoboost V6 engines have fake V8 noises coming from the stereo!

Engine sounds of EcoBoost engines are being auto-tuned through the stereo speakers.

FoMoCo claims:

Turbocharged engines are inherently quieter than normally aspirated counterparts, because the compressor's turbine sits in the path of the exhaust and thus smooths out the outgoing sound. High performance turbo motors often sounds like jet engines, where all you hear is the sounds rushing air as it's sucked in and expelled.

Ford points out that there is nothing "fake" about the engine sound coming from the stereo. This sound is not synthesized by the computer. It is the sound wave from the engine that has been altered to amplify some frequencies and cancel others.

The video is also attached here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9_bhlzJpKI

Why the hell are you worried about what it sounds like on the inside ? Its the outside sound that raises attention....What makes people say wow that sounds mean/nice. I don't get the inside thing. :shruggy:
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