how much muscle do you need?

[1974dodgecharger]

to turn a firm feel steering box that is 16:1 vs a 20:1 manual?  I have a choice this week firm feel box or a hothckis chassis braces.  I chose the box......

[moparnation74]

On a manual box higher the ratio the easier it is to turn but requires more turns.  I would choose 20:1.  Still will be a pain to park
Trust me, I feel your pain my 4spd 440 GTX is manual

Get you one of these as well, lol   https://www.madisontractor.com/5a6-spinner-aluminum-steering-wheel-polished-aluminum-knob.html?fee=3&fep=75776&gclid=CNDL4vqjpMMCFQGDaQodZBQAeQ

[1974dodgecharger]

yeah I agree its a pain already with the manual multiple stops, looking back, turn wheel, etc...to back up to parking, lol....

Dennis recommended I get the 20:1 also after I told him I have a 245 width tire, but curiuos what others opinions are also.

Isnt that illegal in some states the, 'speed bal' lol...

[moparnation74]

I have heard people using a negative caster but that can also make the car to "wander" on the road.  So that would make long distance trip a pain.

[JR]

Since you're going thru the expense of a new gearbox, why not go on and add power steering and get an even quicker ratio box?

A slow 20:1 ratio would drive me absolutely nuts in any kind of street driving at speed.

[Ghoste]

How wide are your front tires and how skinny are your arms?

[JB400]

And, did you remember to eat your spinach?

[dual fours]

On a manual box higher the ratio the easier it is to turn but requires more turns.  I would choose 20:1.  Still will be a pain to park
Trust me, I feel your pain my 4spd 440 GTX is manual

Get you one of these as well, lol   https://www.madisontractor.com/5a6-spinner-aluminum-steering-wheel-polished-aluminum-knob.html?fee=3&fep=75776&gclid=CNDL4vqjpMMCFQGDaQodZBQAeQ

yeah I agree its a pain already with the manual multiple stops, looking back, turn wheel, etc...to back up to parking, lol....

Dennis recommended I get the 20:1 also after I told him I have a 245 width tire, but curiuos what others opinions are also.

Isnt that illegal in some states the, 'speed bal' lol...

I do not know about all 50 states, but legal here (PA.) now for many years. Allowed because of people with disability's.
A great tool for backing up.
But get a rubber coated one, it will be warmer and not hurt if you rap your knuckles on it.  

[Ghoste]

Necker knobs. 

[twodko]

What JR said. You'll be glad you did.

[1974dodgecharger]

How wide are your front tires and how skinny are your arms?

I do 3.5 turns to right and 3 to the left full clocks....I bekieve thats 20:1. As is....and I have 245 up front...its not bad but normal to me.....he said with 16:1 ill be 2.5 clock to clock thats a whole turn less.......

[Yatzee]

If power steering doesn't appeal to you because of loss of power, complicated installation and hedious
looks, take a look at this. I knew it was coming just didn't know when.

http://bangshift.com/general-news/new-products/aftermarket-breakthrough-american-powertrain-now-offering-electric-power-steering-for-classic-muscle/

[JB400]

That electric steering is going to make things pretty tight under the dash.

[1974dodgecharger]

Im comfused just saw flaming river has a oiece now for extra 170 bucks I could get an improved steering piece vs stock.

[Mike DC]

   
Electric PS conversions have had very high prices every time I've checked. 

[Ghoste]

Flaming River has a piece of what?  It's a stand alone steering gear or an add on to your current one?

[1974dodgecharger]

Omg....just talked to firm feel got all my info then they told me the total of 800 dollars, wtf.  I said hold on I understood it to be 330 dollars and 200 core charger which I get back.  He said no the 20:1 ratio is 500 dollars and that's what I have in my car now 3 clocks and 3.5 clocks the other way.  Explained to me to get that 20:1 in there we charger extra 175 dollars.....I shit my pants.


I thought in my head I could get the flaming river 16:1 for 500 shipped and it's smaller and compact. 

Back to the drawing board......

[1974dodgecharger]

Flaming River has a piece of what?  It's a stand alone steering gear or an add on to your current one?

Flaming river has a manual box.....I'm looking into that now.  It was gonna cost over 575 dollars stage 3 with 20:1 ratio.  And needed a core charge.....charge....he quoted me 800 plus then add in shipping 25 dollars and then i ship mine to them etc....