(Speculation) Who's gonna buy our Chargers in 20 years?

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Who's gonna buy our Chargers?

Probably bigger than the Chargers, but let's focus on those, as they are still a contemporary and well-sought muscle car.
Who is going to buy these cars in another 20+ years?

I guess this begs a few questions:

* When do we start buying collector cars? For some, we bought them just as cars, or knew they were cool, ahead of their time.
* When do we sell our cars? In other words, when do we trade our junk for the comfy Lincoln or Cadillac, move to Florida, and wait for the angels?
* And who do we expect to buy our cars in the next 20-30 years? I use this as a figure, as that's probably when I'll sell, unless medical technology keeps me alive for another 40...

What are your thoughts on the matter? Do you even care, or is it for the here and now, for now?  

[Bob T]

Baldwinvettes kids will buy em 

I reckon a lot of the cars will go the way of vintage cars that your grandfather liked and generationally that they wont have that much appeal except for the pockets of resistance around the world. I mean, maintaining a 65 year old car for parts will not be a task that many could probably undertake and who knows how the enviro's are going to affect the octane and emission ratings in the future.

So, availability of cars will decrease, prices will drop because the target buyers will also shrink and when gramps pegs out and the grandkids all decide to cash in on his 440 V code R/T cause they cant/wont or are afraid to drive it, maintain it and fill it up with what?

Get driving old guys, I'm 45, but if I was 65 I'd probably look at selling my car unless my daughter put up a good case for it when she turned 30, unlikely as it seems 

[myk]

I'm going to just will my car to someone here...

[moparnation74]

The economy of course plays a major role for luxury items.

Key, rare cars will always command a higher value.  However, in 20-30 years who will be in the market for those.  The millennial generation is looking grim for that affordability, intelligence, common sense, and general mechanical knowledge to own these cars.  I was a big collector of rare comic books and rare baseball cards.  At the height of that market the values were phenominal.  Now they pail in comparison.  

What changed my focus on the so called "nest egg collections" was the passing of family members.  I realized life is way too short to wait for that golden moment to retire and to enjoy life.  

Enjoy them while you can because at any moment things can change.

[The70RT]

My Boys

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

The economy of course plays a major role for luxury items.

Key, rare cars will always command a higher value.  However, in 20-30 years who will be in the market for those.  The millennial generation is looking grim for that affordability, intelligence, common sense, and general mechanical knowledge to own these cars.  I was a big collector of rare comic books and rare baseball cards.  At the height of that market the values were phenominal.  Now they pail in comparison.  

What changed my focus on the so called "nest egg collections" was the passing of family members.  I realized life is way too short to wait for that golden moment to retire and to enjoy life.  

Enjoy them while you can because at any moment things can change.

Good points.

I am struggling with a record collection of about 800 LPs, a baseball card collection, a "O" Gauge train collection, and on, and on... None of this stuff which was handed down to me matters much to my family. So what to do?   I'll eventually post them all on CL, I suppose.  

[Mike DC]

 
Two words:  "Fast" and "Furious".

   

[moparnation74]

The economy of course plays a major role for luxury items.

Key, rare cars will always command a higher value.  However, in 20-30 years who will be in the market for those.  The millennial generation is looking grim for that affordability, intelligence, common sense, and general mechanical knowledge to own these cars.  I was a big collector of rare comic books and rare baseball cards.  At the height of that market the values were phenominal.  Now they pail in comparison.  

What changed my focus on the so called "nest egg collections" was the passing of family members.  I realized life is way too short to wait for that golden moment to retire and to enjoy life.  

Enjoy them while you can because at any moment things can change.

Good points.

I am struggling with a record collection of about 800 LPs, a baseball card collection, a "O" Gauge train collection, and on, and on... None of this stuff which was handed down to me matters much to my family. So what to do?  :scratch chin: I'll eventually post them all on CL, I suppose. 

I do understand your struggle.  Eventually, I came to the realization to cut my losses and to simply let it go.  Financially, letting go was not a factor.  My wife will have a much easier time dealing with money in the bank versus massive collections.  Overall, I look at it as, Do you think that when you pass your wife/children could handle a large estate?  Some people will chime in and say, "well just have an estate sale."  Easier said than done and there are fees/taxes associated with that process.

So in turn, we simplified our lifestyle.  Yes, we do have a few things but in the event of a life changing moment.  The stress/strain for our survivors is greatly limited of dealing with our estate.

[70 sublime]

I hope the muscle car era cars will live on better than some of the older cars
I have a 22 Model T in my garage beside my Charger and the prices on them have really come down
It was the car we used in our wedding back in 1987 (was the wife's Uncle's car so never for sale) and is very hard to drive and feel safe with other car whizzing past
Dad is in his 70's now and has a 57 Chev and even that stuff is coming down from what it once was

All 3 of these cars had a peak in prices but as the ones that wanted them the first time around that could not get them till later in life are starting to thin out (die off) the values will keep going down to a base level

A good car that is safe to drive on main roads and highways will always be more usefull and hopefully be used more later on in life (muscle cars)

I had started to collect the O scale Lionel train stuff also and had a big pile of parts
Wanted to set something up to display it but when reality set in it that was not going to happen I started to sell it off and was surprised how much prices had dropped on that stuff also

I think the best idea is only grab what you like to have in the way of a car and enjoy it while you can and if it worth more to someone else in the end then good but get your money's worth out of it and drive it now  

[six-tee-nine]

I think anything out of the roaring sixtief will Always attrackt more then anything else.

Not sure prices will drop in the next 20 years

[Ghoste]

I hope it isn't in 20 years.  I want to be the old bastard with his Charger on blocks in the backyard drinking whiskey and yelling at neighborhood cats (the little pricks keep sitting on the hood) every day once I can't drive it anymore.  When I'm done with it my kids will be the ones who have to worry about who will buy it.

[Cncguy]

This Thread is Depressing :'

[marshallfry01]

I'll buy them!!! I'll be 40 in 20 years! Maybe they will be affordable by then  I plan on getting a 69 when I'm finished with college and my multi-engine rating. But if the day comes in 20-30 years where they end up being cheaper, you can bet I'll buy what I can. 

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

I'll buy them!!! I'll be 40 in 20 years! Maybe they will be affordable by then  I plan on getting a 69 when I'm finished with college and my multi-engine rating. But if the day comes in 20-30 years where they end up being cheaper, you can bet I'll buy what I can. 

Cool, there is hope! 

[69_500]

In 20 years I will be 55 so I will still be in the market for more cars. There are people my age interested in these cars, just not a ton of us.

[Daytona R/T SE]

I have no kids.

The Ol' lady is an only child.

Everybody else is either dead or I've disowned them.

There is simply nobody to leave them to.

So...

I think I'll wire in a self destruct device that will blow all of mine to hell 60 seconds after I flatline.

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

People like me.  Who grew up appreciating them and finally will come into money (well not me here) and finally be able to purchase a 69 Charger or such.

So keep them nice guys for us!

[RallyeMike]

Each successive generation lives more in the "e" world than the real world, and automotive technology is making 60-70s muscle cars look like model T's. The hobby is waning. There will always be a few who have interest.... and they will have a lot of cool, cheap cars to choose from in the future.

It is what it is. When I lose interest or can't physically play with them any more, they will be sold for whatever the market bears at the time. I might park the last one in the living room as a piece of art.

Mike

[69rtse4spd]

In 20 years I will be 55 so I will still be in the market for more cars. There are people my age interested in these cars, just not a ton of us.

Well i'm 55 now so in 20 or sooner, look me up. Got to much crap now, need to get rid of the Dart. Might just leave everything in the barns to somebody, that way the wife will not have to deal with it. This thread is depressing, but makes you stop & think. 

[69rtse4spd]

I have no kids.

The Ol' lady is an only child.

Everybody else is either dead or I've disowned them.

There is simply nobody to leave them to.

So...

I think I'll wire in a self destruct device that will blow all of mine to hell 60 seconds after I flatline.

Lucky.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

In 20 years I will be 55 so I will still be in the market for more cars. There are people my age interested in these cars, just not a ton of us.

Well i'm 55 now so in 20 or sooner, look me up. Got to much crap now, need to get rid of the Dart. Might just leave everything in the barns to somebody, that way the wife will not have to deal with it. This thread is depressing, but makes you stop & think. 

I have begun selling everything I ever bought and never opened, which is a BUNCH of stuff!!
New, in boxes... 

I don't want to leave this stuff for my family to figure out. I am not sure they'd care to get top dollar, anyways.

For what I've been selling though, I just turned into a new Snowblower, so all is not lost 

[stripedelete]

People like me.  Who grew up appreciating them and finally will come into money (well not me here) and finally be able to purchase a 69 Charger or such.

So keep them nice guys for us!

You and the little ones sitting in front of tube right now being mesmerized by the shiny orange flying car (with funny horns).   ............ at a more affordable price.

Here's to it being 40 forty years instead of 20.

[garner7555]

I am 30 now. As of right now I don't want/can't afford a collection. but if they get really cheap then I might buy a collection, even if I'm the only one who thinks they are cool!

[1974dodgecharger]

you can usually tell by the prices going on that the generation is dying off and less and less which means less people are willing to pay millions of dollars for a old car. 

In the end we cant tell who is gonna pay for such olds cars.....like I said in another thread kids these days have the HELLCAT as a poster for a fast car. 


The only thing we have for ourselves is awesome burn outs.....

[73rallye440magnum]

I am eagerly anticipating the declined interest in muscle cars.

20 years from now puts me at a 46 YO empty nester.

Enjoy them in the meantime and know they will be well tended once you're no longer able to maintain.

[69_500]

In 20 years I will be 55 so I will still be in the market for more cars. There are people my age interested in these cars, just not a ton of us.

Well i'm 55 now so in 20 or sooner, look me up. Got to much crap now, need to get rid of the Dart. Might just leave everything in the barns to somebody, that way the wife will not have to deal with it. This thread is depressing, but makes you stop & think. 

In twenty more years I hope to have at least one Daytona by then and a Hemi 500. Piecing a collection together.

[Ghoste]

I hope I have a couple more car projects in me too.

[RDC]

Mine will be going to my children when I'm gone.

[Sublime/Sixpack]

I hope to be driving mine when I'm 95.           After that who knows?

[Dmichels]

I think about this a lot with all the crap I collect, coins, guns, pocket watches., and 1 68 charger. Will any one really care about an 1909svdb penny when I am 80? An old 1903 Springfield? A neat pocket watch that keeps time within a few seconds a day without a battery? Can you even get gas for that old car from 1968? Sorry this makes me sad but I do not think the next generation will care all that much. Hopefully I am wrong, but I am finding less young people {can I say that now I am 44?} that have an interest in this old neat stuff.
Dave

[HANDM]

I've been seriously considering selling the Charger and getting a new(er) ram truck......... 

I look at it as the new Challenger will keep interest alive for the 70 so it will hold it's value better than the Charger 
The wife says it would be cool to have a new Challenger and the 70 so there is that......little consolation   

[G-man]

Considering I sold a 68 charger to buy a 69 muatang which i sold to buy a 70 chevelle which im very much contemplating selling now to get a 68 charger again. I'll be buying them in 20 years

[Ghoste]

What year is the zombie apocolypse supposed to start?  I don't think they will buy anything will they?

[500Jon]

Great Topic even if its a bit depressing!

We all want what we can't afford, it keeps us interested and hungry.
Once you achieve the goal of having a Charger R/T or Hemi-car then the reality sets in...
Maintaining the dream both mentally and mechanically!

They are, believe it or not an ongoing project, Muscle-Cars of all shapes and sizes.
My Charger friends that were spotty 20-year olds in the 90's restoring their pride and Joys,,, are doing it all over again.
Some have ongoing rust issues (curse of damp enviroment), fading paint, cracked rubbers, splitting seats etc.
They like me hoped their children will 'take up the flag' and carry on the tradition that is Mopar Muscle!
Now get REAL, it ain't happening, its too uncool to copy DAD these days!!!

So in answer to your question...

IT AIN'T LOOKING GOOD!!!

THE HIGH DOLLAR CARS ARE GOING FURTHER OUTTA REACH... BUT...

The 'also runs' are coming back to us, just gotta live long enough to enjoy them when they arrive LOL!!!

[1974dodgecharger]

when was the last time someone said, 'im gonna restore me a 96 civic to original'........ooohhhhhh.....ahhhhhhhhh

[Ghoste]

And will they ever?

[1974dodgecharger]

And will they ever?

I would say anything fuel injection NO.....and NO......I never had heard anyone say they would restore a fuel injection car its usually, 'im gonna buy me a new car' 

[500Jon]

Maybe the 'Collecting Bug' is dying out?

Technology has changed peoples attitudes to material things?

WHY HAVE REALITY, WHEN YOU CAN HAVE INSTANT SATISFACTION, IN A VIRTUAL WORLD!!!

Create the perfect wife and home, have a hemi-car in the garage, that costs nothing to run and maintain...
Drive 150mph through the Streets of your BiG CITY, no-one gets hurt or killed and when you wipe out on the Freeway, it don't matter!

PRESS START and do it all again...........................

[1974dodgecharger]

very true.....

I don't our cars though will be considered BEASTS anymore with such modern technology cars producing more power as someone mentioned a stock V6 camry can do 1/4 miles faster than a stock 383?  It be one of those in 20 years people will have in their garage for looks and occasional drive every 6 months to get to remember how horrible the drive was for these cars, but exciting at the same time with no technology stuff behind it.

Maybe the 'Collecting Bug' is dying out?

Technology has changed peoples attitudes to material things?

WHY HAVE REALITY, WHEN YOU CAN HAVE INSTANT SATISFACTION, IN A VIRTUAL WORLD!!!

Create the perfect wife and home, have a hemi-car in the garage, that costs nothing to run and maintain...
Drive 150mph through the Streets of your BiG CITY, no-one gets hurt or killed and when you wipe out on the Freeway, it don't matter!

PRESS START and do it all again...........................

[500Jon]

Hi 74,

EER, Euro Folks are restoring 80's cars like they is Muscle cars!!!
To them fuel injection is 'chicken feed' and 80's electronics is so over engineered and funky!

Where we would fit a bigger cam, carb, they just fit a CHIP!!!
Lowering springs that take an hour to fit and drive into a local tyre shop for the choice of a THOUSAND rims and tyres...
Repro panels, pre-painted for $50 that clip on, and or, full plastic overlays over any surface on the car!!!

Its not restoration its a weekly colour/wheel change on non-rusting, for everlasting Euro-BOXES.................

Anyone starting a Mopar Resto now is probably POOPING their PANTS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Ghoste]

Maybe a good question is will their be support for people interested in these cars in 20 years?  Get your AMD while you can.

[tan top]

Maybe the 'Collecting Bug' is dying out?

Technology has changed peoples attitudes to material things?

WHY HAVE REALITY, WHEN YOU CAN HAVE INSTANT SATISFACTION, IN A VIRTUAL WORLD!!!

Create the perfect wife and home, have a hemi-car in the garage, that costs nothing to run and maintain...
Drive 150mph through the Streets of your BiG CITY, no-one gets hurt or killed and when you wipe out on the Freeway, it don't matter!

PRESS START and do it all again...........................

yeah , think you could be right FIVE -j   deffo seems the way the a certain generation are going !! or have already gone .

Maybe a good question is will their be support for people interested in these cars in 20 years?  Get your AMD while you can.

that's something to think about too 

[Stegs]

well in 20 years i will be 47 

i hope by then to have kids and i hope to pass it down to them (but i plan on driving my car until i cant afford the gas for it anymore or they take my license away)

I have a 98 dodge ram 1500 that i redid 1 year after i got out of high school....i joke with my wife that one day i want to see my truck on barret jackson 

[Homerr]

Buy?!

I'm just waiting for all you old farts to will me your Chargers.   

[charger_fan_4ever]

In twenty more years I hope to have at least one Daytona by then and a Hemi 500. Piecing a collection together.

I'm 35 too and would love t own a C500 one day. Hemi would be even cooler. Yes a few of us are still interested in musclecars.

[500Jon]

Hi Charger Fan,

You are on my list of potential buyers!
Remember this number 248662...
One day it may be yours?
4-speed Hemi/440 C500............

[HeavyFuel]

Maybe a good question is will their be support for people interested in these cars in 20 years?  Get your AMD while you can.

I've thought about this, and what I should be stocking up on to keep my car going for the next 20 years.  (alternators, fuel pumps, etc......regular wear out parts.)

[74Rallye]

I'm not worried. I believe my kids will wreck them. Like father, like son as they say. 

[500Jon]

Positive thinking is needed here Folks!

I want to warm your hearts and minds with a Charger Story!
In 1989 I lucked into a 68 R/T Charger from Vegas!
Non vinyl auto car, never been apart and truly rustfree!!!
I was driving to work in London Town every day.
There was a spotty teenager at work who was annoying as HELL.
Always up to no good, breaking stuff and being an ass...
Any ways he was always ribbing me about my Charger saying it was a TURD!
Then six months later he says he wants to buy it???

To get rid of him I said its £5000, a thousand more than I paid.

Guess what...he turns up at work with an envelope with £5000 inside...
You could have pushed me over with FEATHER!!!
Well any ways we do the deal and he says he can't drive it he hasn't got a licence yet???
Could I drop it off at his house please.....how weird is that?

Twenty five years later he still has the Charger, its a mint Vegas car, so what's it worth now?

Oh yeah and he still hasn't driven it YET!!!

He says he's left it to me in his WILL...trouble is he 15 years younger than me DOH!!!

[Bob T]

Gidday 500Jon, that's quite a story, pretty cool.
The senior apprentice where I did my time as a snot nose 16 year old had a MKIII Zephyr and a 69 R/T Charger in poo brown. Occasionally he would bring it to work and I would cadge a ride off him home, I couldn't afford it then though. Nearly 30 years later he has a Plum Crazy 70 GTX and lives a few streets away and likes my Charger a lot, funny how it goes.

Quite like the idea of owning a 500 though, one of my mates has one locally in resto,  have toyed with the idea of selling my R/T and getting Aero , maybe flick us a few pics sometime
southerncharger@gmail.com

[66FBCharger]

Along the same lines as the original subject, In 20 years, will automatics be worth more than four speeds? Us old farts might not be able to push the clutches in when we are in our 70's and 80's.

[dual fours]

We probably won't be able to see over the dash either.
On the other hand it will be easy to find in a shopping center parking lot, it will be the only car taking up four places,
not cus we can't park, that's how small the places will be in twenty years.

[Ghoste]

That's what Centerforce clutches with hydraulic slave cylinders and booster seats are for. 

[G-man]

Maybe the 'Collecting Bug' is dying out?

Technology has changed peoples attitudes to material things?

WHY HAVE REALITY, WHEN YOU CAN HAVE INSTANT SATISFACTION, IN A VIRTUAL WORLD!!!

Create the perfect wife and home, have a hemi-car in the garage, that costs nothing to run and maintain...
Drive 150mph through the Streets of your BiG CITY, no-one gets hurt or killed and when you wipe out on the Freeway, it don't matter!

PRESS START and do it all again...........................

Sounds like Fast and Furious... I wish we could. 

[Mike DC]

 

Along the same lines as the original subject, In 20 years, will automatics be worth more than four speeds? Us old farts might not be able to push the clutches in when we are in our 70's and 80's.

The older generations aren't the ones abandoning the clutch pedal.

[Challenger340]

Go to a few car shows, etc., pretty much sums up the answer for me anyways ? as to "who" will still be buying these cars in 20 years ?
NOT MANY !
Or at least, not the same demand as today, because it's a "dead mans" Car Class.  The older guys who "grew up" with these cars.

Most car shows, shine-n-shines that I've been to.... predominantly 50-55+ year old guys with these cars.
Sure there are some younger, but all I am saying is I believe the vast "majority" are older guys, both as Owners and those that appreciate them the most ?  that will invariably kick off within 20 years, lessening demand..... hence my answer ?

Same as the Barret Jackson clowns ?
Who will be buying THOSE cars in another 20 years, once most of those old farts responsible for the stupid prices kick off ?
Sure there will still be "demand" for them, I just think the "peak" is getting close and bound to subside.

[stripedelete]

Take a look at boating and you may see the future.   The meat of the baby boom is getting out of boating right now. But, there's no one there to buy them.   The youngsters are 50+.  Younger than that, they're buying Kayaks.

Is it apples to apples with muscle cars?  Maybe not.  But, it's not apples to oranges either.

[Patronus]

I figure that within 20 years there will be a CME and no one will be able to drive anything. Thats when I dig up my lil' orange box in the ground. You will hear it before you see it... black, moving fast...

Hey, a feller and dream cant he?

[70 sublime]

But is it all the older guys that want these cars (now anyways) or is it the older guys that now have enough money to play with because all the kids are gone and we have enough extra spending cash as these Chargers are not cheap ?

Be honest the next time you go to a cruise or car show just look around and the more $$$ cars are the guys with the grey hair (if any alt all  )

The Chargers that are out there now are not going to disapear and I hope they will still have more interest than an 1986 Daytona in 20 years 

[don duick]

is this the equivalent of who is buying a 1950 model car , today ?

[polywideblock]

if you do it right and take them to the shows /cruises it will be the grand kids that end up being the ones that want grandads car 

[1974dodgecharger]

In 30 years I cant wait to restore a 07 prius......its gonna be badass and plan to mod it to get 120mpg. 

[HeavyFuel]

In 30 years I cant wait to restore a 07 prius......its gonna be badass and plan to mod it to get 120mpg.  

MPG of what?      The 'gas' is so bad now....who knows what kind of squirrel piss the fuel will be like two decades from now.    



Drive the wheels off now!    

[MoParJW]

Like others have said... why would you go through all the trouble of acquiring and maintaining an old car, if you can ''experience'' all the pro's and none of the cons online.
Besides, if you want to get some real kicks, you just take a cheap little pill and have the time of your life.
This may sound a bit pessimistic, but it is what a lot of the kids do these days, it is considered normal (around here anyway).

But I do think there will always be a group of people who will keep these cars (or at least the more desireable models) on the road, as long as there is still some type of fuel available to run them.
The main reason I think is that muscle car era cars styling is just plain awesome, a work of art, and good art never gets old  .

[Ghoste]

But does good art eventually just get parked in a climate controlled display room with big access doors?  I can't remember seeing many Duesenbergs or Hispano-Suizas on the road anymore.

[MoParJW]

Good point.

Personally I think people will keep wanting to drive a car like a Charger instead of putting it in a museum, because it also has a certain cool factor.
It probably isn't going to change unless the appearance of modern cars changes drastically, and make the charger look outdated, like the Duesenberg nowadays.
I mean, a Duesenberg is still cool in a way, but you wouldn't cruise it down the boulevard to pick up chicks right?

Another example, of an old car which is still cool today IMO and would be fun to drive around in, is a WW2 Willys jeep.

[dual fours]

Good point.

Personally I think people will keep wanting to drive a car like a Charger instead of putting it in a museum, because it also has a certain cool factor.
It probably isn't going to change unless the appearance of modern cars changes drastically, and make the charger look outdated, like the Duesenberg nowadays.
I mean, a Duesenberg is still cool in a way, but you wouldn't cruise it down the boulevard to pick up chicks right?

Another example, of an old car which is still cool today IMO and would be fun to drive around in, is a WW2 Willys jeep.

Now where is that cute boy in that Duesenberg when you want him?

[Aero426]

I mean, a Duesenberg is still cool in a way, but you wouldn't cruise it down the boulevard to pick up chicks right?

Here's a drag race with two.   The driver in the near lane is a Mopar guy.  He's a younger owner too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-oYA5zYVOw

[The70RT]

Since the muscle car era was pretty much the last cool collector car era I think they will always be sought after cars. Some of the newer cars now are cool but I'm not sure if these will be looked at as our collector cars are looked at today

[Ghoste]

They thought the same thing about musclecars until the 90's.  Thats why so many were trashed and left in the swamp to die, they were just old cars no one wanted.