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Overpriced first gen

Started by Drache, December 31, 2014, 06:53:47 PM

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Drache










$26,995

That dash and steering wheel looks pretty rough for that kind of money....  :shruggy:
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A383Wing

yea, no interior or engine pics either....

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steering column looks like it was dragged out of the ocean...and e-brake pedal looks rusted also

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myk

Christ vacuum the carpets at least..

400sforever

I got lucky and bought a 66 charger with a 361 4 speed....silver car with red interior..102,000 original one owner miles.. no rust but hasn't been garaged since 2004 so its faded bad..whats something like that worth? will the 361 and 4 speed be a fun combination? im pretty sure it has the 3.55 suregrip in it..im not familiar with a 361 and 4 speed for performance or if the thing is rare or worth anyting...
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

Drache

What makes it all worse, it's at a Used car lot.  :rotz:

I know where there is a '66 Charger Survivor with paint chips and all for $30,000  :-\
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Quote from: 400sforever on January 01, 2015, 02:46:08 AM
I got lucky and bought a 66 charger with a 361 4 speed....silver car with red interior..102,000 original one owner miles.. no rust but hasn't been garaged since 2004 so its faded bad..whats something like that worth? will the 361 and 4 speed be a fun combination? im pretty sure it has the 3.55 suregrip in it..im not familiar with a 361 and 4 speed for performance or if the thing is rare or worth anyting...

Pictures...

Ghoste

I had fun with my 67 and it was a great car but the fastbacks just do not bring money.

400sforever

ya those bodies are just not something I have to have but the one I bought was 4 miles from me and the guy was going to just sell the car to a scrapper. He heard I had some chargers so he told me to come look and make an offer if I was interested...so I ended up offering him $750 and he took it...I haven't tried started it yet...ill see if I can get some pictures on here
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

Ghoste

Please do, you might end up being surprised and grow to like the car a bunch too.

400sforever

here are some pictures of the 66 charger 361 4 speed as I found it!
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

400sforever

it was hidden really good
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

400sforever

contrary to what it may seem, the car has no rust holes anywhere...nothing in floors, fenders or quarters..it was a silver car with red interior...102,000 miles
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

FastbackJon

As for the first one, yes overpriced. Looks like a scratch on the right front fender too.

As for the second one in the weeds, $750 is a killer deal for that car. The 361 4-speed is very rare. And $750 is not bad for a complete car even in rough but restorable shape. Get it back on the road where it belongs and you may be surprised how it grows on you.
"This was the dedication of the altar, in the day when it was anointed, by the princes of Israel: twelve chargers of silver, twelve silver bowls, twelve spoons of gold..." -- Numbers 7:84 KJV




400sforever

well sweet! that's good news to hear! the interior is all there and unmolested in it..i think a good cleaning would actually give it driver quality status if you can live with a rip in the old seat vinyl. I will have to try to get it running next and go from there
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

Cooter

Quote from: Ghoste on January 01, 2015, 09:14:45 AM
I had fun with my 67 and it was a great car but the fastbacks just do not bring money.

Exactly. Fastback Dodge Coronet.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Ghoste

Sadly thats what everyone thinks.  There are far too many differences between the two that it always puzzles me that people call the 66-67 Charger nothing but a Coronet with a fastback.  The 68-70 have far more commonality with the Coronet yet no one ever says the 69 is just a Coronet with some different sheet metal.

Cooter

Quote from: Ghoste on January 03, 2015, 03:24:45 PM
Sadly thats what everyone thinks.  There are far too many differences between the two that it always puzzles me that people call the 66-67 Charger nothing but a Coronet with a fastback.  The 68-70 have far more commonality with the Coronet yet no one ever says the 69 is just a Coronet with some different sheet metal.

Take a quarter panel, door, even fender (save for headlights), and swap them between a '66-67 Charger and '66-67 Coronet. All body lines line up.

Now try this with a '68-'70 Charger and Coronet.

Everybody understands body lines, it's the purists (fans of the first gens), that have an issue with the obvious..Hell, even Dodge states they started with the Coronet platform and changed a few things to call it a Charger.
in 68, it became the model that shared no body panels with any other car. A buddy in H.S. after I wrecked my '67 Plymouth hadda '66 Coronet and needed a Dr. door. Yes, it bolted right up.

" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Musicman

Quote from: Cooter on January 03, 2015, 05:33:05 PMTake a quarter panel, door, even fender (save for headlights), and swap them between a '66-67 Charger and '66-67 Coronet. All body lines line up.

:lol: Oh yeah, sure they do... good luck with that!

Your right though... 68 Chargers & Coronets do not have much in common with each other when it comes to body lines.

AKcharger

Awwww, bless their hearts for thinking it's worth 2nd Gen money, their so cute  :pity:

Rleo

I turn thes things down left and right, I didn't think anyone wanted them lol

Musicman

Personally... I'm glad the 1st Gens don't bring the money the 2nd Gens do, they're expensive enough as it is.
I'm not in this for the money, I bought my car because I liked it... still do, and have no intensions of ever selling it.

Ghoste

Quote from: Musicman on January 03, 2015, 05:57:09 PM
Quote from: Cooter on January 03, 2015, 05:33:05 PMTake a quarter panel, door, even fender (save for headlights), and swap them between a '66-67 Charger and '66-67 Coronet. All body lines line up.

:lol: Oh yeah, sure they do... good luck with that!

Your right though... 68 Chargers & Coronets do not have much in common with each other when it comes to body lines.

They have a LOT in common in the interior though, far more interchange than the 66-67 Chargher and Coronet.

Ghoste

Quote from: Musicman on January 03, 2015, 06:54:14 PM
Personally... I'm glad the 1st Gens don't bring the money the 2nd Gens do, they're expensive enough as it is.
I'm not in this for the money, I bought my car because I liked it... still do, and have no intensions of ever selling it.

Essentially they do anything the 2nd gen Charger does but for less money.  Pretty much means the 2nd gen is nothing but a rich mans toy.

Musicman

Well, there's a lot to be said for the 1st Gen's... Those who have owned both will testify to that, but there's no point in starting a fist fight over it.... it's not important.  :cheers:
I leave the dick measuring, and endless posturing to the other crowd.

Musicman

Quote from: Ghoste on January 03, 2015, 06:54:57 PM
They have a LOT in common in the interior though, far more interchange than the 66-67 Chargher and Coronet.
I was referring to the exterior only  :cheers:

Ghoste

No I understand what you meant, I was referring to the fact that there really are a lot of differences between the fastback Chargers and the Coronets as anyone who bought a Coronet for parts other than drivetrain quickly finds out.  Then someone else will turn around and insist the 2nd gen Charger and the Coronet are night and day different.

A383Wing

from a restoration money stand point, I would say it takes almost twice as much money to restore a first generation as it does a second to get them both to the same point

Musicman

Quote from: A383Wing on January 03, 2015, 07:21:32 PM
from a restoration money stand point, I would say it takes almost twice as much money to restore a first generation as it does a second to get them both to the same point

How could that possibly be true Bryan...
You can buy just about anything for a 2nd Gen, and almost NOTHING for a 1st Gen... what's there to spend the money on?  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

Cooter

Quote from: Musicman on January 03, 2015, 05:57:09 PM
Quote from: Cooter on January 03, 2015, 05:33:05 PMTake a quarter panel, door, even fender (save for headlights), and swap them between a '66-67 Charger and '66-67 Coronet. All body lines line up.

:lol: Oh yeah, sure they do... good luck with that!

Your right though... 68 Chargers & Coronets do not have much in common with each other when it comes to body lines.

I bolted a '66 Coronet frt. Fender on a '67 Charger. All lines lined up, headlights are another thing.
also bolted the hood on as well, but owner found a 'Charger' hood in better shape. It fit and lined up.
musta had good luck huh?
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Cooter

Quote from: Ghoste on January 03, 2015, 06:58:44 PM
Quote from: Musicman on January 03, 2015, 06:54:14 PM
Personally... I'm glad the 1st Gens don't bring the money the 2nd Gens do, they're expensive enough as it is.
I'm not in this for the money, I bought my car because I liked it... still do, and have no intensions of ever selling it.

Essentially they do anything the 2nd gen Charger does but for less money.  Pretty much means the 2nd gen is nothing but a rich mans toy.

Some on here, I'd agree. Especially the ones with a Hemi, stupid corvette nose,  and a huge wing....
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

Cooter

Quote from: Musicman on January 03, 2015, 07:04:17 PM
I leave the dick measuring, and endless posturing to the other crowd.

Me too. Especially when it comes to a roach of a Daytona that the owner simply wants to dump insane amounts of money into to save, plans to never sell it,  yet everybody's cry in bout "rebody"
insane huh? 19 pages of that measuring.....crazy.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"