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Challenger Hellcat delay

Started by JB400, December 19, 2014, 01:00:38 AM

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Mytur Binsdirti

There's an even bigger problem; they have taken thousands more orders than they antcipated & at 35 units being built per day, it is questionable whether they can fill all these orders in the 2015 model year.  ::)

J.Bond

One of my clients is a local Dodge dealership, I asked the lead sales person, last week, what the orders have been like on the Hellcat's. This dealership primarily sells trucks, farm country. They may only have one Chall and maybe one Charger on the lot at any given time. And really do not care about the performance end of the business. Last time they had an SRT8 Chall, it sat on the lot for pretty much a year. Any way's, I was shocked at what he said. Eight on order right now, and Chrysler has confirmed only one of the eight ordered, he is really doubting if his orders will be filled. I guess this is what Ford went thru when they brought out the Mustang in 64, I think they had to build a second plant

Mytur Binsdirti

I spoke with my sales dude last evening & it appears that Chrysler severely underestimated the demand for these cars. The salesman said that that in 2013, Chrysler built about 5,000 total SRT branded vehicles (Jeeps, Chargers, Challengers, Vipers, etc.), and they registered about 7,000 Hellcat orders when the order banks opened in September. Given Ralph G's statements last summer where he talked about that there was only a small percentage of enthusiasts who wanted a car with such brute power, you can see how badly demand was underestimated.  And my order is in hellcat limbo. Who knows if it will be built or not?   ::)

Ghoste

No doubt, because people didn't kick the doors down to buy an SRT Jeep or an even more expensive version of the Viper or a Caravan with RT badges it obviously confirmed to the marketing experts that there aren't any performance enthusiasts out there.  ::)

Mytur Binsdirti

My guess is that they probably anticipated only a thousand or so orders and as such they contracted to make only so many parts. When they actually realized the real demand for this one vehicle outweighed total SRT production, they probably had  an "oh shit" moment, which may explain why the order banks were a month late to open. Of course, this is just me speculating, but I bet that I'm not far off the mark.

As for my order; at this time of year, "my" car would just sit in the garage anyway, so I'll sit tight for a while, but if I'm still in limbo by early March, I'm canceling the order. By spring, I would assume that the initial fever to have one of the first ones will calm down and dealers who haven't moved them will want to give up on their "adjusted market value" price gouging.  And I'm sure that in time, I'll be able to find one I want within driving distance.

GOTWING

740 HP Mustang for 2017 is in development as we speak.. :flame:

Ghoste

I did see where Dodge had a program in place to try and discourage price gouging by the dealers.  Apparently if they have a Hellcat on the lot for more than a month and its wearing a market value adjusted price, they don't get any more Hellcats.  The dealers who move them will get the allocations.

RIDELIKEHELL

I cross into Michigan Weekly at The Bluewater Bridges & I see a few Cats on the trailers on there way to Taylor Michigan I believe
AMD POSTER BOY

1968 CHARGER R/T  http://www.youtube.com/user/ridelikehell73

Troy

We make some of the significant parts for the engine and we're cranking out a lot more than these estimates could possibly account for. I say the salespeople are full of it. On the other hand, Chrysler (as a company) doesn't seem to have any idea what's going on from one end to the other so you may be able to buy some really cool stuff on Overstock.com some day soon... ;)

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

myk

Quote from: GOTWING on December 19, 2014, 11:39:29 AM
740 HP Mustang for 2017 is in development as we speak.. :flame:

Competition is a good thing.  Without it you won't see anything like a Hellcat from Dodge again..l

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: Ghoste on December 19, 2014, 11:56:53 AM
I did see where Dodge had a program in place to try and discourage price gouging by the dealers.  Apparently if they have a Hellcat on the lot for more than a month and its wearing a market value adjusted price, they don't get any more Hellcats.  The dealers who move them will get the allocations.


Apparently, that's all a bunch of BS......


http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchresults.action?stkTyp=N&tracktype=newcc&mkId=20012&AmbMkId=20012&AmbMkNm=Dodge&make=Dodge&AmbMdNm=Challenger&model=Challenger&mdId=20807&AmbMdId=20807&prMx=&rd=100000&zc=02081&searchSource=TRAIL_HEAD&enableSeo=1

TheAutoArchaeologist

Lets just say that 707 is just a nice sounding number.

ws23rt

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on December 19, 2014, 05:20:37 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 19, 2014, 11:56:53 AM
I did see where Dodge had a program in place to try and discourage price gouging by the dealers.  Apparently if they have a Hellcat on the lot for more than a month and its wearing a market value adjusted price, they don't get any more Hellcats.  The dealers who move them will get the allocations.


Apparently, that's all a bunch of BS......


http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchresults.action?stkTyp=N&tracktype=newcc&mkId=20012&AmbMkId=20012&AmbMkNm=Dodge&make=Dodge&AmbMdNm=Challenger&model=Challenger&mdId=20807&AmbMdId=20807&prMx=&rd=100000&zc=02081&searchSource=TRAIL_HEAD&enableSeo=1

Thanks for that link. :2thumbs:  It tells the story as well as it can be told.
The MSRP that they came out with brought on the long list of buyers that are waiting like me. That perhaps extra fast interest may have added to the fire.
Some on the challenger.com forum are talking about selling their newly arrived hellcat for a profit and will get in line to buy another. :smilielol:
I am just fine with waiting this frenzy out. The car is a lot of car but everyone has their price.
I wonder how this all would look if the MSRP started at 90K (for example)?  In my case I would be looking at a used one a few years from now and not be willing to pay over 40K then.  Everyone has their price.  My  :Twocents:--+ 60K for now.

moparnation74

65k-165k, No kidding, What a story that link tells!

Mytur Binsdirti

Now here's a pair of brand new pair of Hellcats leaving the dealer...............

https://www.facebook.com/scott.brown.31149359/posts/747035632017596

Ghoste

But are those dealers on cars.com sitting with the cars and then not getting more Hellcat allocations?

Just 6T9 CHGR

Hope the green one in that video wasn't this one.....

Chris' '69 Charger R/T


JB400

That didn't take long.  This car has only been available a couple months now, and we're just starting to get pix of the first one wrecked.   :popcrn:

polywideblock

and with an impact like that the motor is probably toast   


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

moparnation74


Ghoste

Quote from: JB400 on December 20, 2014, 03:40:30 PM
That didn't take long.  This car has only been available a couple months now, and we're just starting to get pix of the first one wrecked.   :popcrn:

I'm sure there were a thousand Camry's destroyed in the same time period for similar stunts and driving skills.  (making assumptions about the Hellcat being a stunt victim of course)

TheAutoArchaeologist

The first ones were only delivered to the dealerships 3 weeks ago.

polywideblock

wait for one of the "national rags" to start the whole "their too powerful and too fast" for sale to the public thing    :scratchchin:


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

Mytur Binsdirti