Where is the Fake Bill Strange Daytona?

[500Jon]

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[nascarxx29]

[nascarxx29]

Same car featured on high performance cars magazine    http://s37.photobucket.com/user/75414/media/daytonamagazines.jpg.html

[histoy]

I think that it would look better with poverty hubcaps....

[Aero426]

As a mock up, it probably never made it out of Chrysler. Or it was put back to a conventional Charger.  It's only purpose for press photos.

[Redbird]

I am most curious about the nose cone since it is so close to the production cone. One could guess that they were fairly well along on the clay mock-up. I have no idea of how they built a kirksite  set of molds for the production cars from looking at the clay, probably a lot of hand work, with calipers and such. In one of the books about Cord automobiles there is a description of how small clays were upsized to full size, with a fixture. Also in use on the Cords was a Styling Bridge. There was probably a different set of craftsmen to build this fiberglass cone. This white mock-up also has some idea of the valance panel. So someone must have been thinking how production would occur when the white mock-up was made.

Someone smarter than me would know more about the proportions of the wing.

Also the graphics for the wing were thought out when the white picture was made.

I realize the back window is not there.

[nascarxx29]

You can see the R/T badge on its tail panel

[500Jon]

I think its COOLIO!!!

[Mike DC]

 
It surprises me that their mockup was missing the rear window plug. 

With all those existing C500s at the time, you'd think that would be the one part of a Daytona mockup that would be easy to get their hands on.  Either use a whole C500 for the mockup or at least get a window plug for the car they did use. 

[Ghoste]

Maybe it was more involved to add than bolt on (ish) parts with welding and interior gutting involved along with the repaint?  Likely no 500's to be had in the short time available?
I'm just guessing obviously, it's a good question Mike.

[500Jon]

They already had a stripped out Hemi C500, bright RED?, supposedly going to the Junkyard!!!
YEP the LA Watts car!
Who makes up that stuff???

5J

[nascarxx29]

True story found in Watts stripped heres the story


When the crew left Talladega the whole racing world knew about the record. Eventually, #88 came back to Talladega, where it rests to the present day, on permanent display at the Talladega MotorSports Museum.
Not bad for a car that had been left a derelict on the mean streets of Los Angeles. Chrysler had sent a Dodge Charger Hemi out to California for testing by a major auto enthusiast magazine. It was stolen one night and was lost for quite a while. Finally, L.A. police found the stripped out derelict body on the mean streets of Watts. There wasn't much left except the body, which had been left sitting on cement blocks. The police hauled it into their impound lot. Notifications were made, of course. At first, nothing was going to happen. However it was the time of the Riverside race. One of the guys involved had taken a car out to Riverside to sell. His trailer was empty for the return trip, so he was asked to pick up the hulk from the L.A.P.D. lot.  He did so. That car became the #88 engineering mule and the 200 mile an hour record holder.

However it was the time of the Riverside race. One of the guys involved had taken a car out to Riverside to sell. His trailer was empty for the return trip, so he was asked to pick up the hulk from the L.A.P.D. lot.  He did so. That car became the #88 engineering mule and the 200 mile an hour record holder.

Wonder who the guy was that picked up the hulk.The now #88 daytona research car. Cotton Owens ? ?? Or

[500Jon]

Hi Aero's,

America is a big place, Chrysler is a big SHIP, things get lost and misplaced!
Obviously stories were made up about the Watts car...
Cotton Owens jumped on the band wagon too.
He probably did pick the car up, and its a long haul to his shop.
When Chrysler asked for the car back he was probably GUTTED.
He had taken the trouble to get it and was lining it up for racecar duties.
Instead of converting 68 Chargers, here he had a real C500 HEMI-CAR!!!

So as the years roll by, he and his mate Littlejon make up a good story for 'old time sake'.
It would be real easy to check the VIN, they didn't make that many RED Hemi C500's LOL!

[odcics2]

There was not one trace of red on DC-93.   Plenty of B5 blue, though!     

[Ghoste]

It would be real easy to check the VIN, they didn't make that many RED Hemi C500's LOL!

Of the 127 that are registered in the 69 Registry ( we need to compare notes Danny, you have a lot more than I do), 28 of them are red.  By far the most common color on the ones I have so far.  What is that, like 22%?

[500Jon]

Surely the slimey dudes in Watts didn't color change the 500 when they dumped it???

Red or Blue???
Hemi or 440 car?
Manual or auto?

What is the FAKE #88 Car???

Questions, questions, questions!

Please don't tell me the #71 K&K Daytona is Fake tooooooo!

DayJONa

[nascarxx29]

Fake #88car is that red mule car with short wing I believe.Theres a letter on aero warriors about the museum car

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DEGdAOZQCmE/ToTFX9y-eiI/AAAAAAAACrA/yEAhCDW6NEk/s400/K+%2526+K+Insurance+Team+-+Daytona+mule+testing+at+the+Chrysler+Proving+Grounds+in+Chelsea.jpg

[nascarxx29]

http://aerowarriors.com/cda/cda_09_120968.html

[69DAYTONASE]

I read somewhere years ago that the headlight "gap" and the nose to fender seal "gap" where actually black electrical tape applied to the fake Daytona for the photo shot......

[Ghoste]

That sounds familiar to me too.

[nascarxx29]

This car was the white Charger cobbled into a Daytona for the photo shoot.  It had no rear window plug, no A-pillar mouldings, and the fiberglass nose had no headlight openings, and black tape was used to simulate them  and did so convincingly.   Styling people had used clay and quick dry lacquer to make a good ten foot example.  Chrysler Engineer John Pointer has told a story about how the night before the photo shoot, he shut the mocked up hood after everyone had left for the night and was horrified to find that the leading edge of the hood would not meet the nose!  Much scurrying around and frantic phone calls to recall people solved the problem, and the photo shoot went off okay.
http://www.superbirdclub.com/protohood.html

[500Jon]

Thanx for the info AeroFolks!

So that's it then?
No no more mysteries in the AeroWorld left to solve!

What we gonna do now???