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70 Charger hood

Started by 70 sublime, December 12, 2014, 09:40:42 AM

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70 sublime

Sorting through my pile of parts I notice I have 2 different styles of 70 hoods

Anyone have a Charger with the hood that has no ribs ?

I did a search on this forum but there was not much info on it for Chargers (some talk of Daytona)

The no rib hood is a little soft in the middle of the front bulk head

I noticed when taking the pictures that there was a wire clip that looked like it would hold the hood blinker wire
After looking closer the no rib hood does not have the extra hole in the webbing closer to the windshield to get the blinker wire back out if it was fed through the channel
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Daytona R/T SE

No ribs is a Daytona hood. :Twocents:

charger_fan_4ever

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on December 12, 2014, 10:54:56 AM
No ribs is a Daytona hood. :Twocents:
Agreed

ANDDDDD is that a foxbody notchback mustang in the background ? :scratchchin:

nevermind i see its a charger roof. Looked similar.

70 sublime

Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on December 12, 2014, 01:05:49 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on December 12, 2014, 10:54:56 AM
No ribs is a Daytona hood. :Twocents:
Agreed

ANDDDDD is that a foxbody notchback mustang in the background ? :scratchchin:

nevermind i see its a charger roof. Looked similar.

Come on now

it is a Dodge hood and you think you see a mustang  :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

XH29N0G

Is that a side pipe I see?

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

bill440rt

"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce


TUFCAT

Yup that's a rare hood.  Daytona's didn't have the molded strengthening ribs because they used early stampings of '70 style hoods.  

You can't say never on stuff like this because some people claim no rib hoods were installed on early production 1970 Chargers.  It's probably an issue of an engineering revision with some early cars being built with non-revised parts? Stuff that happened back then would never happen now because a simple change like this would require new crash testing certifications.

70 sublime

Quote from: XH29N0G on December 12, 2014, 04:48:19 PM
Is that a side pipe I see?



Nope
We are on a farm and that is a chunk of field drainage tile
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

70 sublime

Quote from: bill440rt on December 12, 2014, 04:54:45 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on December 12, 2014, 10:54:56 AM
No ribs is a Daytona hood. :Twocents:

:yesnod:

Ka-CHING!!!!!!

Well well well this is getting interesting

If this is a hood that evey good Daytona should have on it what would be a fair price ??????
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

b5blue

Ribbs? Can someone clarify?  :scratchchin:

moparnation74

Man that is a nice surprise before the holiday! :2thumbs:

bill440rt

Neal, if you look at the inner bracing between the front edge of the hood and where the latch bolts up you will see "ribs" stamped in the front area. Daytona hoods were smooth, and did not have the ribbing. Look closely at the photos of the two hoods.
Supposedly, early '70 Charger hoods did not have the ribbing as well? Can someone clarify that also?  :scratchchin:  :popcrn:

Whatever the case, the smooth versions are uber-rare. Great find!!  :2thumbs:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

A383Wing

early 70 hoods didn't have the holes for the turn signal wires either

TUFCAT

Here's a picture showing the ribs.


tan top

 arrrghhh i'm too late   ;D   , TC beat me too it  :yesnod: :cheers: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

TUFCAT

Plus yours is much better!  :2thumbs:

moparnation74

Quote from: TUFCAT on December 12, 2014, 07:45:35 PM
Plus yours is much better!  :2thumbs:
Quote from: tan top on December 12, 2014, 07:38:21 PM
arrrghhh i'm too late   ;D   , TC beat me too it  :yesnod: :cheers: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:
Both of you do awesome jobs of posting pics!!! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

b5blue

Thanks guys!!!  :cheers:  NOW again I've learned something ELSE here!   :2thumbs:

Daytona Guy

I have seen the ribs rub on the Daytona latch tray, but then again, I have heard from some Daytona owners where the ribs did not rub.

Dane

odcics2

Quote from: tan top on December 12, 2014, 07:38:21 PM
arrrghhh i'm too late   ;D   , TC beat me too it  :yesnod: :cheers: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:

The yellow hood looks like a 70 Charger hood that had the ribs removed. 
There are a few more differences than just the ribs.   :Twocents:

Need to see a clear photo of the entire bottom half of the hood in question.   :popcrn:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Davtona

Quote from: odcics2 on December 12, 2014, 09:21:11 PM

The yellow hood looks like a 70 Charger hood that had the ribs removed. 
There are a few more differences than just the ribs.   :Twocents:

Need to see a clear photo of the entire bottom half of the hood in question.   :popcrn:

Keep talking I'm listening / learning.  :2thumbs:

6bblgt

NICE FIND!
Is there paint on the OP's hood, it looks like FT6 a '70 color?

Are there hood pin holes?  No hood pins  - not originally a Daytona hood.  :scratchchin:

70 sublime

Quote from: 6bblgt on December 12, 2014, 10:37:26 PM
NICE FIND!
Is there paint on the OP's hood, it looks like FT6 a '70 color?

Are there hood pin holes?  No hood pins  - not originally a Daytona hood.  :scratchchin:

No hood pin holes

I never said it came off a Daytona

Just wondering if the early batch of the 70 hoods made up for the Daytona had some left overs that made it onto 70 Chargers but could still be the same hood as on the 69 Daytona ??????
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

6bblgt

I guess I wasn't clear.  :icon_smile_blackeye:

If it has NO hood pin holes & it appears (to me from the pic posted) to be FT6 - a '70 color ..... then it is an early '70 Charger hood which (for all practical purposes) is a '69 DAYTONA hood & based on condition, worth a pile of $$$$.

Alaskan_TA


70 sublime

Quote from: Alaskan_TA on December 13, 2014, 12:07:55 AM
WIW thread for a 'Daytona' hood posted at http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,115006.0.html today also.

I posted that also in case some of the aero guys did not notice a 70 Charger hood article  :2thumbs:
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

odcics2

Would be good to see the bottom half of a 69, 70 and your hood in question, at the best rez you can get on here.
Anyone have a 69 they can post?  
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Sublime/Sixpack

Interesting thread.  Had someone asked me if my '70 Charger's hood had ribs on it I would have guessed no.  I had to go into the garage and check, it has ribs (car was built in September 1969).
Learned something new today. :thumbs:
1970 Sublime R/T, 440 Six Pack, Four speed, Super Track Pak

ACUDANUT

Are you saying 69 (really a 70 hood)  were smooth/no ribs with hood pins are from a Daytona only ?

charger_fan_4ever

Quote from: Sublime/Sixpack on December 13, 2014, 01:47:26 PM
Interesting thread.  Had someone asked me if my '70 Charger's hood had ribs on it I would have guessed no.  I had to go into the garage and check, it has ribs (car was built in September 1969).
Learned something new today. :thumbs:

my 70 was built in march and it has the ribs.

Quote from: 70 sublime on December 12, 2014, 01:08:54 PM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on December 12, 2014, 01:05:49 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on December 12, 2014, 10:54:56 AM
No ribs is a Daytona hood. :Twocents:
Agreed

ANDDDDD is that a foxbody notchback mustang in the background ? :scratchchin:

nevermind i see its a charger roof. Looked similar.

Come on now

it is a Dodge hood and you think you see a mustang  :brickwall: :brickwall: :brickwall:

Lol i have a 70 and a notchback. Roof line at a glance is quite similar.

70 sublime

2 70 hoods side by side
Only difference is the ribs and the oval holes at the bottom
All other holes are the same

Hood has been painted once and it looks like a lighter colour on top
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

472 R/T SE

So sublime's hood is a hood that was basically built for the Daytona with the factory using the leftovers' up on the early '70s'?

So does that mean there's 3 types of hoods for the 2nd generation?

1.  Daytona hood
2.  '70 Charger hood
3.  '68 & '69 hood (small scallops)




That settles it.  I have an August 18 car.  I haven't checked yet since I have a pile of towels sitting on the hood that I'm about to remove.

ACUDANUT

I can't see ribs on either hood.  :shruggy:

70 sublime

Quote from: ACUDANUT on December 15, 2014, 02:20:08 PM
I can't see ribs on either hood.  :shruggy:

In the picture of the 2 hoods together the one on the left is the same hood in my very first picture in this thread and you can see the ribs  :2thumbs:

The reason for the picture of the 2 hoods side by side was so you could see the 2 holes near the bottom that are missing on the hood on the right
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Davtona

Quote from: 70 sublime on December 14, 2014, 12:53:05 PM

All other holes are the same


Take a look again. Aren't you missing two holes up top on the latch end of hood above the hood pin holes on the 70 Charger hood?  :coolgleamA:

tan top

  take a look at this hood  :scratchchin:  ribs & no holes , looks like original paint  :shruggy:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

472 R/T SE

My car's a 2nd week of production rig & it has the ribs.  '69 tail lights.  Chrome door handle push button (oops, nm, wrong year)   ;)

I was pushing it trying to hold it open long enough to look for ribs so I wasn't able to do any hole reconnaissance.

Davtona

Ok I'm thinking there were 3 different versions of the Daytona / 70 Charger hood.

1. Sublime's brown hood pictured. No ribs and no holes. Essentially a Daytona hood however this one came on a 70 Charger as it has no hood pin holes as a Daytona hood would have had. Apparently at least one 70 Charger came with this hood.

2. Tan Top's blue hood. Has ribs but none of the 4 extra holes. My guess early 1970 cars got these.

3. Sublime's gray hood. Has ribs and all 4 holes. The later version and from my experience the largest percentage of 1970 hoods.

What the production date break is between #2 and #3 I don't know.

6bblgt

Quote from: Davtona on December 15, 2014, 10:36:35 PM
1. Sublime's brown hood pictured. No ribs and no holes. Essentially a Daytona hood however this one came on a 70 Charger as it has no hood pin holes as a Daytona hood would have had. Apparently at least one 70 Charger came with this hood.

Did XP29R0G100001 exist in "Sublime's" neighborhood at anytime?  :scratchchin:

Dodge Don

My hood is like the one Tan Top posted....has ribs, only 2 holes for hood pins and no holes at bottom for hood turn signal wiring (which my car came with). Early build September 8th 69.