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Chrysler 300 Hellcat?

Started by bull, December 08, 2014, 09:41:03 PM

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bull

I've looked around here and on the rest of the web for some rumors/info regarding the potential for a Hellcat 300 but didn't see a whole lot other than wishful thinking (along with the Cherokee). Have any of you guys heard from reliable sources that they might build them?

JB400

Considering they dropped the 392 engine from the 300 lineup, I don't see this car getting the Hellcat.

polywideblock

of coarse not   :brickwall:   its the only one we get over here  :flame:


  and 71 GA4  383 magnum  SE

charger Downunder

Quote from: polywideblock on December 09, 2014, 02:13:45 AM
of coarse not   :brickwall:   its the only one we get over here  :flame:
If they keep sending us the crap that nobody wants i will continue to drive my 240 Volvo.
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Ghoste

Hey they're just barely beginning to get the idea that Americans want American cars let alone the rest of the world.  We are all supposed to love these crazy little unbelievably superior in every aspect European cars like the Fiat 500.  (if they weren't the best cars in the world then why is that beloved American leader the great and wise Obama legislating insane CAFE standards that will force the silly gun happy Americans to drive them huh?)(yes, I sarcastically commented on three things that bother me in a single shot there)

wingcar

I read somewhere that a Chrysler 300 Hellcat was not going to be offered......(I need to look for the story)
Looks as if 4 doors and a Hellcat engine are what you are looking for, then it will have to be a Charger.
1970 Daytona Charger SE "clone" (440/Auto)
1967 Charger (360,6-pak/Auto)
2008 Challenger SRT8 BLK (6.1/Auto) 6050 of 6400

GOTWING

The SRT 300 is a little slow in sales, so yeah i would say not going to be offered in the hellcat form. just an FYI my 05 hemi 300C is still going strong with 153,000 miles. :2thumbs:

ECS

Quote from: bull on December 08, 2014, 09:41:03 PM
Have any of you guys heard from reliable sources that they might build them?

Yes.  They will put the engine in the Charger and it will be faster than the Challenger.
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

wingcar

Quote from: ECS on December 09, 2014, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: bull on December 08, 2014, 09:41:03 PM
Have any of you guys heard from reliable sources that they might build them?

Yes.  They will put the engine in the Charger and it will be faster than the Challenger.

I believe the original question was regarding the Chrysler 300 and the Hellcat engine.  The Charger and Challenger Hellcats are well known..................
1970 Daytona Charger SE "clone" (440/Auto)
1967 Charger (360,6-pak/Auto)
2008 Challenger SRT8 BLK (6.1/Auto) 6050 of 6400

ECS

Quote from: wingcar on December 09, 2014, 11:39:01 AM
I believe the original question was regarding the Chrysler 300 and the Hellcat engine.  The Charger and Challenger Hellcats are well known..................

You are correct!  (Sorry about that.)  I mis-read what was being asked.  :2thumbs:
TIME WILL INEVITABLY UNCOVER DISHONESTY AND LIES!

J.Bond

From what I have read, SRT badging and power belongs to Dodge products only. 300 is a Chrysler, so no more SRT 300's ,  5.7's for everyone else.

69bronzeT5

Quote from: JB400 on December 09, 2014, 12:12:00 AM
Considering they dropped the 392 engine from the 300 lineup, I don't see this car getting the Hellcat.

For 2015, the SRT 300 is only going to be an Australian spec vehicle. No SRT 300 for North America for 2015. However, when they announced that, 300 fans and owners went berserk. They attempted to please the public by stuffing a 392 into their Platinum series 2015 300 however that wasn't enough to win everyone over. The current rumour is they are working on a "SRT design" 300. It will have the 392 Hemi, Brembo brakes, adaptive suspension like the previous SRT 300s, the bolstered seats, SRT performance pages etc....it just won't have the SRT badges. I'm assuming the engine covers will say "POWERED BY SRT" like the Scat Pack Challengers and Chargers.


To answer your question Curtis, there is no current plans to build a Hellcat 300. I'd expect a Hellcat Grand Cherokee before a 300 but there are no announced plans of either right now. Tim Kunkisis (CEO of Dodge) is very firm in having the Hellcat 6.2L engine exclusive to the Challenger and the Charger from what I've heard as he doesn't want the Hellcat name diluted by sticking it in every car they make like they have done with the previous 6.4L 392 Hemi. Another rumour going through the mill right now is Dodge is slightly kicking themselves in the ass for attempting to make SRT a Dodge only brand. It seems the current SRT community (including myself) aren't fans of that idea....
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

bill440rt

Yeah, I couldn't imagine what the market demand would be for multiple Hellcat vehicles in the lineup.  :scratchchin:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

69bronzeT5

Quote from: bill440rt on December 09, 2014, 06:18:25 PM
Yeah, I couldn't imagine what the market demand would be for multiple Hellcat vehicles in the lineup.  :scratchchin:

I could see the Hellcat Grand Cherokee being a big seller....
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

bull

Is there not a Hellcat Charger in production now? They are supposed to be building them but I haven't heard if any made it to dealerships yet (no, I do not want one).

I think it's odd that they wouldn't offer the Hellcat engine in Chryslers and Jeeps. I understand the desire for Dodge exclusivisity in badging, like in the past you couldn't get a Plymouth R/T, but they always shared engines. These days they don't share engines but "SRT" goes on everything? But now that I think about it, did any Chryslers ever come with a 426 Hemi? I know they had 440s in almost all of them in certain years.

JB400

The Charger version comes out in Jan. 2015.

69bronzeT5

Yup.....the Hellcat Charger is available for order in Q1 2015 (first quarter). Tons of Hellcat Challengers are hitting the lots now....
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

wingcar

You have to be careful not to dilute the name or image by over saturation.  I have a couple of friends that own performance cars from the dark side and they are sick and tired of hearing about the Hellcat and seeing it in every magazine on the newsstand.   But then, I guess I would feel the same if my car had been kicked off its pedestal and was now playing second fiddle to the Hellcat...a Dodge no less!  Perhaps it's just a case of sour grapes...or maybe Dodge needs to limit the amount of Hellcats hitting the streets.....only time will tell.  Either way Dodge is number one on the streets today, and it feels good....so the others can just suck it up, or go to their local Dodge dealer and see how much their "also ran" performance car is worth on trade in for a new Hellcat. 
1970 Daytona Charger SE "clone" (440/Auto)
1967 Charger (360,6-pak/Auto)
2008 Challenger SRT8 BLK (6.1/Auto) 6050 of 6400

J.Bond

This seems to be round two in decision making. This is the result of Chrysler/Fiat making a decision a couple of years back, that, the SRT badge was going to be on all the performance vehicles they made only, as if it were it's own division. It did not make sense to me that Jeep, Chrysler and Dodge vehicles would be grouped together under one badge. The new decision, is to make the Dodge brand the performance division. the article I read stated that, because of the performance branding, the iconic Caravan will disappear as well. Making Dodge, Chrysler's sport performance division only, is not that bad a deal, the name lives on.

Ghoste

Yeah I think its less overstaturation of the market than it is sour grapes for the Brand X folks.  If they are tired about hearing nothing but Hellcat for the last couple of months they need to try and imagine how we feel after decades of "All Hail The Great and Imperious Power of the Mighty Mighty Mighty Brand X!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

bull

Quote from: wingcar on December 10, 2014, 07:54:10 AM
You have to be careful not to dilute the name or image by over saturation.  I have a couple of friends that own performance cars from the dark side and they are sick and tired of hearing about the Hellcat and seeing it in every magazine on the newsstand.   But then, I guess I would feel the same if my car had been kicked off its pedestal and was now playing second fiddle to the Hellcat...a Dodge no less!  Perhaps it's just a case of sour grapes...or maybe Dodge needs to limit the amount of Hellcats hitting the streets.....only time will tell.  Either way Dodge is number one on the streets today, and it feels good....so the others can just suck it up, or go to their local Dodge dealer and see how much their "also ran" performance car is worth on trade in for a new Hellcat. 

Yeah, that was kind of my point above. Not too long ago Chrysler was putting R/T on everytbing and after a while it meant nothing. Didn't even some minivans have R/T badges?

69bronzeT5

Quote from: bull on December 10, 2014, 11:16:52 AM
Quote from: wingcar on December 10, 2014, 07:54:10 AM
You have to be careful not to dilute the name or image by over saturation.  I have a couple of friends that own performance cars from the dark side and they are sick and tired of hearing about the Hellcat and seeing it in every magazine on the newsstand.   But then, I guess I would feel the same if my car had been kicked off its pedestal and was now playing second fiddle to the Hellcat...a Dodge no less!  Perhaps it's just a case of sour grapes...or maybe Dodge needs to limit the amount of Hellcats hitting the streets.....only time will tell.  Either way Dodge is number one on the streets today, and it feels good....so the others can just suck it up, or go to their local Dodge dealer and see how much their "also ran" performance car is worth on trade in for a new Hellcat. 

Yeah, that was kind of my point above. Not too long ago Chrysler was putting R/T on everytbing and after a while it meant nothing. Didn't even some minivans have R/T badges?

Yup the Grand Caravan "R/T" package.... :rotz:
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

Ghoste

Yep, now the RT is just a trim package.

wingcar

Even the once mighty wing warrior...the Daytona Charger had it's name lifted and placed on the mid '70's Charger (which itself was a mirror image of what the original Charger once was) by adding a tape and stripe package...and no rear spoiler. 

Then in 2005/06 they used the name Daytona on a Dodge RAM Pickup, but at least it did have a rear wing and could haul..........

Finally, in 2005-09 (?) they used the name for a trim package on the new Charger...The Dodge Daytona R/T.  I guess giving it both the Daytona name and adding the R/T would make it faster....(and it to had a small rear wing)

(And, of course they had earlier put the name on a front wheel drive car......)

*Was the Daytona name used to much in the past?  Just because you own the name, doesn't mean you need to use it on all a lot of vehicles.  You decide.... :Twocents:
1970 Daytona Charger SE "clone" (440/Auto)
1967 Charger (360,6-pak/Auto)
2008 Challenger SRT8 BLK (6.1/Auto) 6050 of 6400