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Help me choose a color for my 69! UPDATE- PAINTED!!!

Started by garner7555, December 03, 2014, 11:42:00 PM

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Which color combo on my 69?

white with red stripe
blue pearl (2005 GM color)
viper red

Ghoste

And Morpheus is kind of an unusual colour name isn't it?

garner7555

Quote from: Ghoste on December 15, 2014, 09:46:04 PM
White isn't white?

Actually it isn't at all.  You should see all the different whites lined up in a paint deck next to each other, some look tan, some yellow, ect. compared to actual white.  And I'm not talking about pearls (tri coats) either.  Seems a little crazy to have so many white options, but I suppose each manufacture want their own exclusive color.  :shruggy:
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garner7555

Quote from: polywideblock on December 15, 2014, 10:25:18 PM
Quote from: polywideblock on December 04, 2014, 12:25:27 AM
I voted blue but have you thought about a nice purple ?   :scratchchin:  PPG passion purple      

or Aussie GM MORPHEOUS metallic
                                             

and definitely with a white stripe

        I still stick with my original post    :yesnod:
Those are some wicked looking purple options, and great suggestions, but purple just doesn't do it for me.  Don't get me wrong, if I had a numbers matching car that was originally purple then it would definately stay plum crazy (now I sound like a purist  :smilielol: ).  I think purple can look awesome on our cars, it just isn't one that I would choose.   :shruggy:
Thanks for the suggestion and for including pictures!  :2thumbs:
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tan top

Quote from: garner7555 on December 16, 2014, 06:49:55 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 15, 2014, 09:46:04 PM
White isn't white?

Actually it isn't at all.  You should see all the different whites lined up in a paint deck next to each other, some look tan, some yellow, ect. compared to actual white.  And I'm not talking about pearls (tri coats) either.  Seems a little crazy to have so many white options, but I suppose each manufacture want their own exclusive color.  :shruggy:

that's true , been in body & paint 25 years ,  if you got all the car maunfactiures paint chips out  & variants on each on a given color ,  plus  the color map  , there are  millions of colors to choose from , like Garner7555 said  , factor in  three stage pearls & or with tinted clear coat ,  its endless  , also got to include , making up your own color , just make sure you write down the formula ,  :lol:  how many grams of each tinter , :yesnod:  
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Ghoste

Not to belabor the point but trying to understand.  Wouldn't those other "whites" be off whites?  I thought white and black were the only two pure ones and they technically weren't colors?  One was the complete absence of color and the other was all colors in one or something like that?

garner7555

Quote from: Ghoste on December 16, 2014, 08:22:01 AM
Not to belabor the point but trying to understand.  Wouldn't those other "whites" be off whites?  I thought white and black were the only two pure ones and they technically weren't colors?  One was the complete absence of color and the other was all colors in one or something like that?

Yes, in a sense they are "off white".  And practically all white cars are some variant of off white.  Even black isn't black, park a ford truck next to a GM, both black, the ford has a lot more brown in it.  There are no true plain ol black factory colors hardly. That is what I was referring to when I said I wouldn't use the original white used on chargers, I would use a more "true white" than the factory off white.  :yesnod:   :2thumbs:
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Ghoste

Okay, I'm getting it now.  Thanks.

tan top

 depending on what paint company , each one of them have  a base mixing Black & a base mixing white  , as well as many many other tinters  on the mixing scheme , to produce the required color you need  ,
 every paint company's mixing scheme ive used  , for mixing up paint  , the base white , is  real white pure white ,  & all the other whites you mix up on cars are , like what Garner7555 says    , some whites will be  , a blueish , yellowish , grayish , greenish , redish tinge to it ,  compared to the straight pure white of the mixing scheme ,  sames goes for the  Black , the mixing scheme black is black black ,  :yesnod: :P  by the time you mix up a car manufactures paint formula , it could be a blueish , brownish , grayish , yellowish  black when compared to the  mixing black !!  
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garner7555

Quote from: tan top on December 16, 2014, 04:57:05 PM
depending on what paint company , each one of them have  a base mixing Black & a base mixing white  , as well as many many other tinters  on the mixing scheme , to produce the required color you need  ,
 every paint company's mixing scheme ive used  , for mixing up paint  , the base white , is  real white pure white ,  & all the other whites you mix up on cars are , like what Garner7555 says    , some whites will be  , a blueish , yellowish , grayish , greenish , redish tinge to it ,  compared to the straight pure white of the mixing scheme ,  sames goes for the  Black , the mixing scheme black is black black ,  :yesnod: :P  by the time you mix up a car manufactures paint formula , it could be a blueish , brownish , grayish , yellowish  black when compared to the  mixing black !!  

Exactly. It's alot easier to understand if you have mixed paint before.   :2thumbs:
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Patronus

...and why red is the more expensive of colors...
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Ghoste

Straying far from the topic but has any car maker ever used a pure white or pure black then?

tan top

  
ive mixed  up paint from  , Standox , ICI /Nexia ,PPG , Sikkens  mixing  schemes  ,  the only one I can remember  was a solid ford black , in sikkens 2k auto cryl  system  , i'm trying to think back 22 years , that had a straight 242 tinter black  ,  then they changed formula or was a nother solid black  with a different paint code , & it had a small amount of a light brown & white in it  , it was  negligible  really so , we never use to bother with it & just use to use black straight off the scheme in sikkens auto cryl . the paint was still a perfect match & would paint edge to edge all the time in those blacks.  white noo always had to mix it  , just to complicate  matters ,  on each  paint manufacture  , there would be  many many different tinters to a complete mixing scheme & what line  solid 2 k , 2 stage for base for base & clear  , water base , & high solid ,  there would be a solid black  , a transparent black  , same for blue   , brown  , white , there are soo soo many tinters  & binders , & aditives that go into a paint formula mix ( depending what one your using )  when I use to mix up these paints  , would be rushing around late in the day to get something painted & would think FFS  ,  the paint i'm trying to mix has 6 or 9 different tinters in it  ,  & would seem to take  hours  mixing  , especially if I had to change a tinter , & the color would be  metallic black or silver , blue , would have  red , burgundy  transparent  brown blue , bit of pearl green , or blue  ,  fine & coarse metallic silver  etc    if your in a hurry or run out between coats , would be annoying especially near the end of the day  :RantExplode:  :lol:
the different tinters that go into all these car manufactures colors , i'm sure there is no real need , :lol: it just gives the car designer guys something to invent  ,  strangly  each paint company ive used  ,  use  similar color tinters although , use a different combination of them to produce the same  car manufactures  color  :shruggy: :lol:

also going off track a bit  , there are only a few solvent  tinter colors with a strong enough pigment to be able to use straight out the tin ,   cant remember all of them & it varies from paint company to the next  ,  switched to waterbase in 2000 , & its a different set of tinters with aditives again !

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

hemi-hampton

PPG 9700 is pure black & the only tint used in some paint code blacks. LEON.

superbirdtom

yeah and they never match, straight blacks I mean.   Most new cars blacks have some sort of tint in them. even when formula says straight black with no toners in them , you take freshly painted black door outside in blinding sun and the factory black looks brown compared with it.

garner7555

Thanks for the feedback and opinions guys!  :2thumbs:  As confused as I am every little bit of help is appreciated!  :yesnod:   :think:
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ACUDANUT

I changed my mind. Diarrhea green.  lol

500Jon

Park a white 70 Challenger next to a 71 white Challenger!

Then you will understand WHITE!!! :dance:
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garner7555

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JB400

Just get one in each color.  Problem solved :cheers:

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Ghoste

If I only had stupid money, that one in each color idea would be something to brag about.  :laugh:

garner7555

Quote from: Ghoste on December 25, 2014, 12:08:18 PM
If I only had stupid money, that one in each color idea would be something to brag about.  :laugh:

Yes!!   :yesnod: And it would eliminate the need for a thread like this!!   Just give me one in every color please!   ::)
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JR

I'll vote for pearl white with red tail stripe and interior.

Cool to see someone live close by. I live in small town Alabama, right beside Phenix City. Which itself is right by the GA line close to halfway down the state. Whenever you get done with your car I'd be down for the power tour cruise. :cheers:
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garner7555

Glad to hear of other Chargers in the general area.  When I get the car back road worthy (probably 2016? just guessing) I will have to try to get together a DC.com meet for us southeastern folk! :yesnod:   :2thumbs:
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Canadian1968

Quote from: Patronus on December 16, 2014, 11:12:33 PM
...and why red is the more expensive of colors...

Reds are typically more expensive for couple reasons . The pigments that are used in a red can be just plain more expensive to produce , also a metallic red usually does not cover very well and will simply require more product ( paint) to complete the job . Hence inflating the cost .

A tri coat or candy effect as mentioned before will also add addition cost for the same reasons , more so it labour for these effects that really bump up the cost !