tough sell

[charger01]

I have seen this charger on ebay numerous times within the last month or so.  fender tag doesnt match the dash vin?? dash vin screwed on with regular screws?  I can see why he's having a hard time selling it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-Base-Hardtop-2-Door-1968-dodge-charger-383-great-shape-quality-driver-ready-to-go-/221622826625?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3399bff681&item=221622826625&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

[PrisonHack]

 Yeah I saw that , it looked decent untill I saw the phillips head screws on the VIN, WTH?

[ACUDANUT]

Orange paint under that VIN plate too !  But to be fair, I changed out my entire dash (it was old and trashed)  VIN rivets were not to be found at the time.

[lukedukem]

I have seen this charger on ebay numerous times within the last month or so.  fender tag doesnt match the dash vin?? dash vin screwed on with regular screws?  I can see why he's having a hard time selling it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-Base-Hardtop-2-Door-1968-dodge-charger-383-great-shape-quality-driver-ready-to-go-/221622826625?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3399bff681&item=221622826625&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

the VON and VIN are different. i believe 68 used the VON on fender tag and VIN for dash? someone correct me if i'm wrong

luke

[ACUDANUT]

For a 68 , you are correct.

[Homerr]

And a broadcast sheet is the only thing that connects the VIN and VON on '68's.

[lukedukem]

And a broadcast sheet is the only thing that connects the VIN and VON on '68's.

thats was something i was wondering as i typed my last response. thanks

luke

[Mytur Binsdirti]

There is so much wrong with that car; where does one begin?

[ACUDANUT]

With money !

[6spd68]

In today's day and age, I'd say he's still got a decent 18-21K driver quality car.  It could be a great car for someone that could slowly pick away at it's issues.

[cavemanno1]

There is so much wrong with that car; where does one begin?

Let's begin then!I'm here to learn and want to know how to spot the problems on cars!

[twodko]

In today's day and age, I'd say he's still got a decent 18-21K driver quality car.  It could be a great car for someone that could slowly pick away at it's issues.

Agreed. It wouldn't take a great deal to add all the little things
that car needs to be a very nice daily.........orange under the
tag or not. 

[PrisonHack]

There is so much wrong with that car; where does one begin?

Let's begin then!I'm here to learn and want to know how to spot the problems on cars!

I agree, other than the Phillips head screws holding on the VIN making me worry about title issues it looks like a decent driver quality car to me. What all am I missing, I truly do wish to learn what to look for on these.

[Homerr]

http://knoxville.craigslist.org/cto/4783690798.html


Kids, don't do drugs.

[chargerperson]

I have seen this charger on ebay numerous times within the last month or so.  fender tag doesnt match the dash vin?? dash vin screwed on with regular screws?  I can see why he's having a hard time selling it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-Base-Hardtop-2-Door-1968-dodge-charger-383-great-shape-quality-driver-ready-to-go-/221622826625?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3399bff681&item=221622826625&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Actually the fourth time listed in about last two weeks.  Last listing was with no reserve though the last bidder was a low volume ebayer with no feedback so who knows what happened to that "sale" which ended at a little over $20K which makes the Craig's list ad hard to reconcile.  See VIN picture.  

[myk]

With all of the recent threads here about people desperate to buy and not having enough money to buy a decent Charger project, that eBay car will do someone right.  So what if it's got this, that and the other thing that's wrong with it?  Not every Charger is destined to be some 1,000,000 point correct concourse 'd elegance show car with the factory gas in the tank and a factory line worker mummified and preserved in the trunk. Someone who appreciates Classic Mopar muscle is going to climb into that thing and have a blast driving it around town, body plates be damned.

I feel bad for the owner though.  Having to choose between a home and the Charger is rough...

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[Stevearino]

  Not every Charger is destined to be some 1,000,000 point correct concourse 'd elegance show car with the factory gas in the tank and a factory line worker mummified and preserved in the trunk.

[fy469rtse]

I agree, not a bad car to start with
It's not an rt, it's big block , has lots of nice options, the things wrong with it are not too much to deal with , car you could drive and work on and improve,
Vin rivets would be high on my list
Cavemanno1, wants to learn guys on what to spot that's wrong or needs work
Come you all have good eyes
I'll start
Wrong seat covers , but this could be personal taste, not everyone likes the a vandal just slashed my seat covers look
Upper door pads are covered in vinyl
The big issue for me and a rust area , rear window , cnrs to stainless don't fit, these challenge most guys to fit these properly, but they have been off, would hope this areas been fixed properly, trunk floor two piece welded in , rear deck window is usually the cause of rot to trunk floor,
Come on some else, I'm going back to look at photo's

[cavemanno1]

Ok,so what's wrong with it?I doesn't look like a 30+k car of course,the headline looks like it was installed by a child or me   philips screwheads are wrong,what else?
Runs drives good,heater works,gauges work!As Myk said it doesn't have to be a showcar.A good driver that you can drive as you stole it and not worry about the dings and scratches!However 35k is way too much for it!

It's bad you have to choose bettween your house and a car but after all these are "toys" only,well in most cases,and family comes first!

[fy469rtse]

A patient person will fix that head liner , can adjust , get it tighter, headlight doors work , shows that vacuum pods function,
68 guys on here hopefully will decode that fender tag , 35 too much, it's only got a passable 10 foot paint job

[cavemanno1]

I have seen this charger on ebay numerous times within the last month or so.  fender tag doesnt match the dash vin?? dash vin screwed on with regular screws?  I can see why he's having a hard time selling it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-Base-Hardtop-2-Door-1968-dodge-charger-383-great-shape-quality-driver-ready-to-go-/221622826625?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3399bff681&item=221622826625&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

the VON and VIN are different. i believe 68 used the VON on fender tag and VIN for dash? someone correct me if i'm wrong

luke


Might seem to be ignorant but i actually never heard about VON numbers!So what do they mean?I know the VIN is body style,manufacturing plan, production number etc.

Thanks,

Peter

[fy469rtse]

Ok sorry , paint is better than that,
Front inner stud on c pillar trim to deck panel broken, rear of the other side broken off, vinyl roof trim
Ash tray door missing
Good options , air if it works, power steering,
Missing dome lense to interior light

[fy469rtse]

Von is the factory , vehicle order number , which is on the tag of 68's, so there vin on dash does not match, seems odd but that's the way the were, build sheet is the only way to link both von and vin
If I was considering this car, I would like to see from underneath rear deck area to make sure the the repairs were done properly,

[six-tee-nine]

Dont want to sound like an ass, but if someone welds in a new trunk floor and doesnt even care to grind the welds properly, that leaves alot to be desired, and starts worrying me about the thickness of the bondo on the rest of the car.

But it could be a cool driver for someone who wants one to fix while driving.

[Homerr]

The VIN screw thing is a major PITA. 

1.  Check the core support and trunk rail for matching VIN numbers.  If they don't match then the car and your state requires an inspection then the state police will pop that ol' tag off and put a nice state assigned one in it's place.  If the numbers match or are not present then proceed to step 2.

2.  Immediately after buying the car, but before sending through any state inspection need to fix the VIN issue.  Pull the windshield.  Then unscrew the VIN tag and flatten it out without scuffing, reattach with proper rosette rivets.  Reinstall glass.  Blow some dust on it, spash some puddle water on it.

3.  Cross fingers and run it through the state inspection.  If they find the VIN tampered with then you still get a nice state assigned VIN.


So there's risk involved with this car.  The yahoo with the screws probably cost himself $5-10,000 for the next owner to eat that risk.  Or a buyer that doesn't give a rip about the VIN needs to be found.

[charger01]

Too many potential title problems with this car. Why ever mess with the vin tags unless something screwy is going on?

[bigdsul]

Depending on the state that car as is won't clear inspection. Good ol California would eat that car up and spit it back out. For 35k there there should be a clean, clear, and worry free title. For 35k the paint, trunk, trim, wiring, interior, seats, column shifter indicator should be spot on not a Earle schein one off.

18-20k would be more realistic without the VIN risk. As it sets maybe 10k including the potential for VIN issues.

[Ghoste]

Would they actually come out and inspect the car though or just look at the sheet of paper and stamp it?

[charger01]

In Ohio, when I bought mine. It had no motor or tranny, still had to trailer it to the bmv for inspection.

[Daytona R/T SE]

If you get pulled over with drywall screws holding your VIN on...

You're going home without a car.  

[chargerperson]

Car relisted for what I believe is 5th time with no reserve, $22,000 opening bid.  I.e., $22,000 or higher bidder takes it. Last auction did not make reserve ending at $20,500. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-Base-Hardtop-2-Door-1968-dodge-charger-383-great-shape-with-original-motor-/221634890244?forcerrptr=true&hash=item339a780a04&item=221634890244&pt=US_Cars_Trucks