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Started by Shakey, November 25, 2014, 08:31:21 AM

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Shakey


..wait to announce the ruling until this morning at 8:00 AM when all the hoods are still sleeping in the hood?   :shruggy:

I think we all knew what was going to happen!   :rotz:


http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ferguson-smolders-after-michael-brown-grand-jury-decision-sparks-riots-1.2848819

RECHRGD

In '65 I was 17 and could see the smoke from the Watts riots from my house.  Things sure have changed a lot in the last half a century of government programs, haven't they........
13.53 @ 105.32

twodko

Shakey,

A great many of us from across our ethnic make up
knew precisely what the outcome would be.
I don't want this thread to be locked but I
will say IMO the grand jury made the right decision.
With that said, it's a tradegy when anyone loses
thier life. Equally a tradegy for the one who is forced
to use lethal force.
FLY NAVY/Marine Corps or take the bus!

sunfire69

Agreed twodko..
Shakey I believe they waited for several reason
1. so all schools could get all the kids home ( if they weren't all ready out for Thanksgiving break ) after school activity buses sometimes run as late as 7pm.
2. Most people were home from work or gotten there for second shift...so fewer people were on the roads
3. By 8 a lot of the local mom and pop stores had closed
4. it was colder.....and yes believe it or not to some of the border line protesters this makes a difference

Shakey

Quote from: twodko on November 25, 2014, 12:13:39 PM
Shakey,

A great many of us from across our ethnic make up
knew precisely what the outcome would be.
I don't want this thread to be locked but I
will say IMO the grand jury made the right decision.
With that said, it's a tradegy when anyone loses
thier life. Equally a tradegy for the one who is forced
to use lethal force.

I think there would be trouble no matter the outcome.  Rage or celebration - there was gonna be damage.

While I knew what has taken place I can't say I followed each and every story from back in August until now.  I said to my Wife last night, this reminds me of the riots in LA when the cops were cut loose from the Rodney King incident 20+ years ago.


Shakey

Quote from: sunfire69 on November 25, 2014, 12:20:48 PM
Agreed twodko..
Shakey I believe they waited for several reason
1. so all schools could get all the kids home ( if they weren't all ready out for Thanksgiving break ) after school activity buses sometimes run as late as 7pm.
2. Most people were home from work or gotten there for second shift...so fewer people were on the roads
3. By 8 a lot of the local mom and pop stores had closed
4. it was colder.....and yes believe it or not to some of the border line protesters this makes a difference

Really good points - never thought of those! 

Mike DC

 :Twocents:    

The whole thing has been a donkey show for the last 3 months.  Heavily media-driven.  The media didn't cause the protesting but it helped to bring on the crime & vandalism.



IMO the kid didn't deserve to die - but he asked for it.

IMO the cop was innocent.  But he was probably getting off either way.  And that is what a lot of the public anger really stems from.  Decades of pent-up frustration.  

The protesting started the day of the shooting.  Why wait for the verdict of the case, why even wait for the FACTS of the case, when you already know the legal outcome from the day it happened?  

twodko

Another very sad death occurred here a few months ago.
Two county sherrifs were patrolling a notorious gangbanger
neighborhood and came across a teenage, Andy Lopez, with a plastic
replica of an AK47 that had the orange tip removed.
Cops pulled up, shouted the requisit commands to drop what
they truly believed was the real deal AK, the boy made a wrong
move or moves and the cops shot him.

Awful situation. With the numerous school shootings these days every
police agency across the country is now hyper vigilant. These
LEO's were no different.

I bring this up because this kid died because of failures by everyone
involved.......the kids parents, the LEO's(cop shot this kid 9 times), toy manufacturers and
the lowlife media.

The result of this and the Ferguson tragedies are that a family
has lost a child. But wait there's a sunny upside!

Some slimy shyster lawyer gets involved along with pukes
like Sharpton or Jackson and every jackwagon ultralib then these parasites inflame the community,
cause riots and it becomes nothing more than extorting
the city/county for the big paycheck.
FLY NAVY/Marine Corps or take the bus!

JB400

This is just a continuation of the Trayvon Martin case, although this Brown kid isn't some innocent victim, he's a thug that was committing a crime.  Yet, they're trying to make him out as some Billy the Kid.  How his family and race can promote this type of actions, I don't know.

myk

Quote from: JB400 on November 25, 2014, 07:36:17 PM
This is just a continuation of the Trayvon Martin case, although this Brown kid isn't some innocent victim, he's a thug that was committing a crime.  Yet, they're trying to make him out as some Billy the Kid.  How his family and race can promote this type of actions, I don't know.

Because no one believes in personal accountability anymore, we've become a culture of blame, diversion and excuses for our problems...

el dub

entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

F8-4life

Quote from: myk on November 25, 2014, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: JB400 on November 25, 2014, 07:36:17 PM
This is just a continuation of the Trayvon Martin case, although this Brown kid isn't some innocent victim, he's a thug that was committing a crime.  Yet, they're trying to make him out as some Billy the Kid.  How his family and race can promote this type of actions, I don't know.

Because no one believes in personal accountability anymore, we've become a culture of blame, diversion and excuses for our problems...

Good post myk

RallyeMike

QuoteI think there would be trouble no matter the outcome.  Rage or celebration - there was gonna be damage.

This is what I don't understand. They know trouble is on the way but because it is racially fueled either way of the outcome we have to sit back and let it happen? Why do the lawful townspeople of Ferguson have to be subjected to the destruction and terror of hoods? These low-lifes destroyed their communities property, businesses, and jobs and made everyone else pay.

We don't let this happen any other day - why now  :shruggy:



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myk

Quote from: el dub on November 25, 2014, 08:32:53 PM
Who is no one?

Don't overcomplicate things dude.

Obviously I'm speaking on highly generalized terms and you should know that unless you're trying to start a fight.

And....there's nothing to fight about.  The point I'm making is to stop blaming the world and start blaming yourself for your trouble.  If you put your hands on a police officer, if you rob a store, if you fight with a police officer then you get shot PERIOD.  All this baloney about white oppression, a troubled childhood, a corrupt justice system and the need to riot is just blaming the world for your own fatal character flaws...

twodko

FLY NAVY/Marine Corps or take the bus!

el dub

Quote from: myk on November 25, 2014, 09:54:51 PM
Quote from: el dub on November 25, 2014, 08:32:53 PM
Who is no one?

Don't overcomplicate things dude.

Obviously I'm speaking on highly generalized terms and you should know that unless you're trying to start a fight.

And....there's nothing to fight about.  The point I'm making is to stop blaming the world and start blaming yourself for your trouble.  If you put your hands on a police officer, if you rob a store, if you fight with a police officer then you get shot PERIOD.    

 
First off dude, I'm not fighting. This is the net. I would just turn it off, not fight.  I just don't believe your statement. You were quoting jb400's statement where he said,  "Yet, they're trying to make him out as some Billy the Kid.  How his family and race can promote this type of actions, I don't know". Then you said no one believes in personal accountability  and we've become a culture (country?) of blame, diversion,
 and excuses for our problems... Was that an answere to him?
Sorry there dude I just don't buy that. If you said politicians were like that, that I could believe. But I personally don't know the people your talking about and I hope my country is not like that. I also don't understand this statement by you.   " All this baloney about white oppression, a troubled childhood, a corrupt justice system and the need to riot is just blaming the world for your own fatal character flaws..."
      If you think white oppression is baloney... well I don't think you really believe that. Do you? Does anyone? Does anyone believe the justice system is not corrupt against blacks? Again, I'm not messing with you, just saying what I think.   :cheers:
 

 
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

Mytur Binsdirti


PlainfieldCharger

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on November 26, 2014, 06:36:19 AM
If only Big Mike had listened to Chris Rock.   NWS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR465HoCWFQ
:rofl:That should be playing the big networks. Common sense  :icon_smile_big:

Mike DC

                       

IMO it's noticeable how little celebrity comment this whole thing has gotten.  

Even the knee-jerk sympathy crowd is having a hard time buying the story of this kid being innocent.  

stripedelete

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 26, 2014, 01:07:10 PM
                       

IMO it's noticeable how little celebrity comment this whole thing has gotten.  

Even the knee-jerk sympathy crowd is having a hard time buying the story of this kid being innocent.  

Correct.  The only reason it was dragged out so long is because we have a black president.
If you switch the race of any of the three ( or any other combination there of), it doesn't make past the St. Louis 6 o'clock news the day after it happened.

Mike DC

  
Race riots over police shootings are older than the Obama admin.    

IMO Obama is one more celebrity who seems reluctant to step in this mess.  


It got dragged out because the complaints against the system in Fergusen are valid although they chose the wrong shooting to protest.  By the time the facts became clear there was too much momentum rolling to stop it.  The people wanted to protest longstanding gripes.  

Media coverage and rioting tend to feed off each other, snowballing.  The media felt entitled to their rightful rioting story in Fergusen.  It's like a bunch of schoolyard kids crowing around & goading a pair of kids to fight.  

ACUDANUT

It's all about LACK OF CHILD REARING.  No Father or role model and no respect for the law.

stripedelete

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on November 26, 2014, 01:54:25 PM
 
Race riots over police shootings are older than the Obama admin.    

IMO Obama is one more celebrity who seems reluctant to step in this mess.  


I'm sure there are issues with the Ferguson PD.  Celebrities are not touching it because he was guilty.
Obama = Eric Holder= talk of federal charges.

In addition, if you are a black celebrity, the next 12 months will be a great time to slice your ex-wife's head off.
You will walk.

ACUDANUT

NAACP, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson.  All For Mike Brown. Where is the White Support /Help for Darrin Wilson. ?

JB400

Quote from: ACUDANUT on November 26, 2014, 02:12:56 PM
NAACP, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson.  All For Mike Brown. Where is the White Support /Help for Darrin Wilson. ?
Where it mattered most: in the courtroom to make sure he got a fair hearing, and on the streets protecting private property and businesses from those that seek to cause civil unrest.

It's a proven fact that the people you listed, are not for peace, nor for racial equality.  If they were, they'd wait until justice had been served, whether fairly or unfairly, before speaking up.  Unfortunately, they don't.  They don't wait for all the facts to be given.  They take first day accounts of people who wasn't there, or saw very little, that match their own way of thinking, and create chaos.  It'd probably be better if the minority groups actually over thru these people and their organizations, and speak for themselves.