Delusional Charger sellers

[wingcarenvy]

.....Sounds like your frustrated because you cant afford a second generation Charger.....

Actually Kern Dog owns a 1970 Charger that he drives occasionally.

In this thread page 5, reply #104, first picture. (same pic below, I added the yellow arrow).
Link:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,136013.100.html

Actually it proves my point. He got "deal" on a crashed, rusty, shell of a 383/2 barrel Charger. Good on him. I bet with another 5-7 grand of bro deals he will have a running driver Charger. He of all people should see the value in a good car but someone comes on here and offers their assessment of my car without looking at it and instantly everyone assumes the worst. The real beef i had was with the other clown offering his assessment of clapped out beach cars. Barfdog jumped onboard with his really sweet comments and away we go. When he gets called out he instantly jumps to the defense of "oh i was just joking and if you cant take a joke well then f you." So if he was joking then great. Ill ask him in person the next time i see him at spring fling.

[ACUDANUT]

I wouldn't have admitted to having a car in this thread. It is like standing up in front of people and saying I am a greedy, delusional assclown.

Apparently sense of humor only goes one way with you. Minor major. Someone who can dish but cant take it. Your comments truly show what your maturity level is. Let me explain how things work in America. I have what you want. I want to sell it to you. However your going to pay my price. If not, then we don't agree. On to the next potential buyer. Thats called "capitalism" maybe your one of the many folks in California that believes in socialism. I don't know. Thats sure what you sound like. So, am i delusional? No, don't think so. Sounds like your frustrated because you cant afford a second generation Charger. I finish with a final thought. Show me what 20k buys you in the real world of second generation  chargers. Not 318 cars and not rusted frame rails or floor pans and not pieced together stuff that wont drive onto a trailer and not a VIN and a title in an envelope. Real cars with real sale prices. Id love to see what you come up with. And don't post stories about your buddy that found one in a driveway where the person didn't know what they had. A real sale.

Aren't the one who sold a rusty bodied 69 charger in Cali for 32K. ? You did very well. 

[John Milner]

I wouldn't have admitted to having a car in this thread. It is like standing up in front of people and saying I am a greedy, delusional assclown.

Apparently sense of humor only goes one way with you. Minor major. Someone who can dish but cant take it. Your comments truly show what your maturity level is. Let me explain how things work in America. I have what you want. I want to sell it to you. However your going to pay my price. If not, then we don't agree. On to the next potential buyer. Thats called "capitalism" maybe your one of the many folks in California that believes in socialism. I don't know. Thats sure what you sound like. So, am i delusional? No, don't think so. Sounds like your frustrated because you cant afford a second generation Charger. I finish with a final thought. Show me what 20k buys you in the real world of second generation  chargers. Not 318 cars and not rusted frame rails or floor pans and not pieced together stuff that wont drive onto a trailer and not a VIN and a title in an envelope. Real cars with real sale prices. Id love to see what you come up with. And don't post stories about your buddy that found one in a driveway where the person didn't know what they had. A real sale.

$20K would more than likely drive mine home.  440, 4 speed, 3:90 sure grip.  Not a real R/T but it looks, drives and runs good.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

32 grand for a car this rough?



http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,136426.0.html

I'd say that the current price of $18,600.00 is just about the right price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Dodge-Charger/184062975615?hash=item2adb021e7f:g:rqcAAOSwtsBdtjT4

[ACUDANUT]

32 grand for a car this rough?



http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,136426.0.html

I'd say that the current price of $18,600.00 is just about the right price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Dodge-Charger/184062975615?hash=item2adb021e7f:g:rqcAAOSwtsBdtjT4

What happened to 32k ?

[alfaitalia]

"This thing is by no means rusty."......on what planet is that?....virtually every shot shows pretty serious rust or holes. Holes are right through the metal a pretty much a good sign of pretty severe rust!...LOL... And describing the trunk floor rust that you can nearly see through as minor? REALLY....Glad to see that he at least has sense of humour!! It it was not an RT-SE (assuming it is...not a lot of proof but I will say it is in this instance) it would not be worth half that...even in the UK where they cost loads more. Its probably JUST about worth what its reached now...but obviously it will go higher.

[70 sublime]

Will be interesting to see where it tops out at on ebay

[moparstuart]

I wouldn't have admitted to having a car in this thread. It is like standing up in front of people and saying I am a greedy, delusional assclown.

Apparently sense of humor only goes one way with you. Minor major. Someone who can dish but cant take it. Your comments truly show what your maturity level is. Let me explain how things work in America. I have what you want. I want to sell it to you. However your going to pay my price. If not, then we don't agree. On to the next potential buyer. Thats called "capitalism" maybe your one of the many folks in California that believes in socialism. I don't know. Thats sure what you sound like. So, am i delusional? No, don't think so. Sounds like your frustrated because you cant afford a second generation Charger. I finish with a final thought. Show me what 20k buys you in the real world of second generation  chargers. Not 318 cars and not rusted frame rails or floor pans and not pieced together stuff that wont drive onto a trailer and not a VIN and a title in an envelope. Real cars with real sale prices. Id love to see what you come up with. And don't post stories about your buddy that found one in a driveway where the person didn't know what they had. A real sale.

$20K would more than likely drive mine home.  440, 4 speed, 3:90 sure grip.  Not a real R/T but it looks, drives and runs good.

more pictures please  looks and  sound cheap for the price

[ACUDANUT]

Stuart, Fix that RR first and your other toys. 

[jefferson]

That black 69 asking 32k is an absolute joke!
The owner is on here, he has posted it in the for sale section. Absolute delusional.
He has dropped it down to 29K, i was looking at it the other day, and im sorry to say, i feel dirty just looking at the inside, you would never get me to sit inside that car no matter what situation i was put in.
You want to ask strong money for it, at least be strong enough to clean it up a bit for F sake.

Fella im sorry you need a reality check. 20k is more then generous enough for your 69. I honestly believe the market is becoming ruined by sellers like himself trying to palm there car off at 2-3x what its worth and driving the rest of the market up too with there, sorry but junk.

29-30k for that. Just lol.

[jefferson]

If the owner actually reads this, i just looked at your black 69 again and jees, by no means rust. . LOOK! the car is riddled with bloody cancer, look at the inside too, who the hell would sit in that, bloody contract almost every disease known to man. That is friggin gross. Jesus.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

That black 69 asking 32k is an absolute joke!
The owner is on here, he has posted it in the for sale section. Absolute delusional.
He has dropped it down to 29K, i was looking at it the other day, and im sorry to say, i feel dirty just looking at the inside, you would never get me to sit inside that car no matter what situation i was put in.
You want to ask strong money for it, at least be strong enough to clean it up a bit for F sake.

Fella im sorry you need a reality check. 20k is more then generous enough for your 69. I honestly believe the market is becoming ruined by sellers like himself trying to palm there car off at 2-3x what its worth and driving the rest of the market up too with there, sorry but junk.

29-30k for that. Just lol.

If the owner actually reads this, i just looked at your black 69 again and jees, by no means rust. . LOOK! the car is riddled with bloody cancer, look at the inside too, who the hell would sit in that, bloody contract almost every disease known to man. That is friggin gross. Jesus.

Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.    

[jefferson]

That black 69 asking 32k is an absolute joke!
The owner is on here, he has posted it in the for sale section. Absolute delusional.
He has dropped it down to 29K, i was looking at it the other day, and im sorry to say, i feel dirty just looking at the inside, you would never get me to sit inside that car no matter what situation i was put in.
You want to ask strong money for it, at least be strong enough to clean it up a bit for F sake.

Fella im sorry you need a reality check. 20k is more then generous enough for your 69. I honestly believe the market is becoming ruined by sellers like himself trying to palm there car off at 2-3x what its worth and driving the rest of the market up too with there, sorry but junk.

29-30k for that. Just lol.

If the owner actually reads this, i just looked at your black 69 again and jees, by no means rust. . LOOK! the car is riddled with bloody cancer, look at the inside too, who the hell would sit in that, bloody contract almost every disease known to man. That is friggin gross. Jesus.

Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.    

hahaha i actually had to delete some of my response and on top of that reword a fair bit. Dont want to get banned.
But in all honesty, 32k is strong money for that 69, and the thing i find worst then the rust, is how i feel when i looked inside the car and actually thought, how in the hell can someone daily drive that, living in absolute putrid and filth. May aswell keep wearing the same undies and socks 365 days of the year. It is that bad. Made me feel disgusting and i had to take a shower everytime i looked at the inside pics.

[jefferson]

Would it really have hurt that much, to vaccuum the car out prior to taking the photos. Buying new seat covers, and maybe wiping down the inside, dash etc, trying to polish it up a little .?

The floor looks like it has probably bitten off finger nails flicked down, is on par with someone who smokes in there car too id imagine.

Anyways, said my share. ONto the next.,

[Mytur Binsdirti]

the thing i find worst then the rust, is how i feel when i looked inside the car and actually thought, how in the hell can someone daily drive that, living in absolute putrid and filth. May aswell keep wearing the same undies and socks 365 days of the year. It is that bad. Made me feel disgusting and i had to take a shower everytime i looked at the inside pics.

[Homerr]

I look at a lot of real estate photos.  Some people think it's fine to list their home for sale with the toilet seat up and a halo of pee overspray around it on the floor.

[Kern Dog]

I am not one to brag. I joke a lot and poke fun but I am not one to boast about how great I am or what I have.
I have had some success in life and some setbacks. I am not a big player in this hobby, just a working guy that loves these cars. When I see people post ads for cars that need every metal panel replaced and claim that it is a "Solid builder" or "Not very rusty" it makes me question their sanity. This thread is based on that very thing.
I am fully aware that they made all of these cars that they ever will and that the ones that remain are growing in value. That is fine but the ads that get my respect are the ones that show the warts, the damage, the rust and admit that it is a car that is NOT for the beginner.
Yeah, I have 2 Chargers. I didn't scrimp and save to buy either one. The first was in 2000 when the values were still relatively cheap. This project car was bought with money from selling various car parts I already had. The only rust in the latest one is in the center of the trunk and a tiny spot at the lower right corner of the rear window.
ALL the structural damage of the car is being fixed with stuff that I  already had here. I sometimes get people calling me to either buy or just take their piles of parts. Most of the time it is worth very little, sometimes I get lucky.
The XH '70 I just bought was a fair deal. Sure, it isn't an R/T model but all 68-70 Chargers are desireable at this time. Once the front clip is replaced, according to the crazy asking prices I've seen, it could actually get responses if I advertised it for $10,000. Body complete, grille, original engine, disc brakes and all in restoreable shape. I don't plan to sell it at the moment. I can have this running with pretty much what I have here at my place aside from a few store bought items.
I don't see these cars as my way to get rich. I am also not one to wait and deal with 20 people before making a sale. Even when I sell at swap meets, I price my stuff in the middle of the current value because that is what I try to find when I am buying.

[jefferson]

Just need some mag 500s on your red 70 

[73rallye440magnum]

$20K would more than likely drive mine home.  440, 4 speed, 3:90 sure grip.  Not a real R/T but it looks, drives and runs good.
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Sent you a message.

[wingcarenvy]

That black 69 asking 32k is an absolute joke!
The owner is on here, he has posted it in the for sale section. Absolute delusional.
He has dropped it down to 29K, i was looking at it the other day, and im sorry to say, i feel dirty just looking at the inside, you would never get me to sit inside that car no matter what situation i was put in.
You want to ask strong money for it, at least be strong enough to clean it up a bit for F sake.

Fella im sorry you need a reality check. 20k is more then generous enough for your 69. I honestly believe the market is becoming ruined by sellers like himself trying to palm there car off at 2-3x what its worth and driving the rest of the market up too with there, sorry but junk.

29-30k for that. Just lol.

I don't even know what to say. I drive it daily. Am I a filthy person? No. My street and neighbors are under construction so stuff gets dirty. The carpet is junk and falling apart so yeah I don't really care about it because its hell to vacuum. The reality is, you nor anyone else, will find a real driver Charger R/T for that generous 20K. So, really you are just spewing hot air. Thanks for the advice. I guess I am blown away at how rude people are in general. I come to to this forum to find like minded folks and have some camaraderie about the cars we love. You don't know anything about me yet you judge me and freely spew profane rude comments.

[jefferson]

That black 69 asking 32k is an absolute joke!
The owner is on here, he has posted it in the for sale section. Absolute delusional.
He has dropped it down to 29K, i was looking at it the other day, and im sorry to say, i feel dirty just looking at the inside, you would never get me to sit inside that car no matter what situation i was put in.
You want to ask strong money for it, at least be strong enough to clean it up a bit for F sake.

Fella im sorry you need a reality check. 20k is more then generous enough for your 69. I honestly believe the market is becoming ruined by sellers like himself trying to palm there car off at 2-3x what its worth and driving the rest of the market up too with there, sorry but junk.

29-30k for that. Just lol.

I don't even know what to say. I drive it daily. Am I a filthy person? No. My street and neighbors are under construction so stuff gets dirty. The carpet is junk and falling apart so yeah I don't really care about it because its hell to vacuum. The reality is, you nor anyone else, will find a real driver Charger R/T for that generous 20K. So, really you are just spewing hot air. Thanks for the advice. I guess I am blown away at how rude people are in general. I come to to this forum to find like minded folks and have some camaraderie about the cars we love. You don't know anything about me yet you judge me and freely spew profane rude comments.

Mate . I bought my 68 true RT car for a few g more than your 32k asking price and its honestly show room condition.
And this was only last year
So yes your 32k asking price is a joke.

[ACUDANUT]

"My street and neighbors are under construction so stuff gets dirty".  Your neighbors are under construction ??.  Dude you live in that nasty thing. A daily driver ? Yeah right, from soup kitchen to soup kitchen.  

[Kern Dog]

It is a hard thing to admit that you are wrong about something when you were SO certain that you had it right.
I have been there many times. It sucks.
I have had some cars listed on ebay with reserve prices that I thought were reasonable. Some ran past the reserve by thousands but a few didn't come close. That stings. You think your pricing is fair but the market disagrees.
That black Charger is rough but restoreable. I think that his price is about double what the fair value is but that is just my opinion. Will the market agree with me or not?

[wingcarenvy]

That black 69 asking 32k is an absolute joke!
The owner is on here, he has posted it in the for sale section. Absolute delusional.
He has dropped it down to 29K, i was looking at it the other day, and im sorry to say, i feel dirty just looking at the inside, you would never get me to sit inside that car no matter what situation i was put in.
You want to ask strong money for it, at least be strong enough to clean it up a bit for F sake.

Fella im sorry you need a reality check. 20k is more then generous enough for your 69. I honestly believe the market is becoming ruined by sellers like himself trying to palm there car off at 2-3x what its worth and driving the rest of the market up too with there, sorry but junk.

29-30k for that. Just lol.

I don't even know what to say. I drive it daily. Am I a filthy person? No. My street and neighbors are under construction so stuff gets dirty. The carpet is junk and falling apart so yeah I don't really care about it because its hell to vacuum. The reality is, you nor anyone else, will find a real driver Charger R/T for that generous 20K. So, really you are just spewing hot air. Thanks for the advice. I guess I am blown away at how rude people are in general. I come to to this forum to find like minded folks and have some camaraderie about the cars we love. You don't know anything about me yet you judge me and freely spew profane rude comments.

Mate . I bought my 68 true RT car for a few g more than your 32k asking price and its honestly show room condition.
And this was only last year
So yes your 32k asking price is a joke.

Well. I don't know where you are but this is america and in america i get to ask my asking price. My price is now 29k. I don't consider you an expert so your opinion doesn't matter to me. So let facts back up your position. Show me another 69 R/T SE Charger for sale in like condition for less. You cant thats why you keep calling me names.

[John Milner]

How can one tell if a 69 Charger is a true R/T SE without a build sheet or fender tag? I realize an R/T would have the XS vin, and an SE usually has power windows, a wood grain dash bezel along with the SE sail panel emblem. Things can be moved to other cars in 50 years worth of time. I would think if someone were to invest $30K in a car to restore, it would be very important to have documentation that the car was an SE to make the investment make sense from a financial standpoint. Once it is restored and shiny, what will distinguish it from another regular R/T and make it worth more? How could you tell that the SE equipment wasn't moved from another car? How would you tell it is a factory black paint car once it is restored? I would also think that it would be important to have a 69 HP engine to go back in the car to bring big money since the original block is gone. To me, and probably to many others, it would make sense to buy a nicer car for $30-$40k. I think a nice non numbers matching R/T driver could be had for $30-$40k. This one needs a lot of money thrown at it to restore it. In the end, will the car be worth the investment after a restoration since it isn't a numbers matching documented car? A guy could conceivably have $70k invested in the car after a nice restoration I would think. Will it be worth that with the important pieces and documents missing? If this were a documented numbers matching car, maybe it brings $30k easier. I hope it does bring $30K. Good luck with the sale.