Delusional Charger sellers

[cbrestorations]

ok this guy isnt delusional but why did he not give the vin nor post a pic of the fender tag. i thought ebay required the vin in order to sell a car. i dont think its a real r/t
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-/262284933089?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d116677e1:g:hKcAAOSwUuFWu5Kq&item=262284933089

[crj1968]

Unfortunately, some people would rather hoard them and watch them rot outside instead of selling them to someone who'll actually fix them .

True dat.

[GOTWING]

I think that he went overboard with the description of the car. 

[Ryan.C]

I think that he went overboard with the description of the car. 

I thought the same thing.

[70mopar500]

It was probably to much of an effort to just post the pics

[GOTWING]

 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

This one is back again........


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-R-T-/151987077161?forcerrptr=true&hash=item236322c029:g:NcAAAOSwB4NWxQn5&item=151987077161


And this guy is on drugs....



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-/131731010544?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1eabc7b3f0:g:2pkAAOSwWTRWxd48&item=131731010544

[Lord Warlock]

Why is 2nd guy delusional? because it isn't an RT? seems to be a realistic price for a restored 2nd gen, even if not an RT, SE or hemi.  Maybe a little higher than I would think he'd get for it, but have to start somewhere when advertising people always try to offer less than asking price, hardly ever see bidding wars.  I'd hope to get close to that amount for mine and i'm not delusional.  values have been significantly higher in the past so there is room to grow in today's prices. 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

You mean 45 grand for a car in primer, driven in mud, filth all over the floor, painted gas fill tube, headlight doors don't close, rust around the bottom of the left rear corner window molding, trunk full of crap, and missing trim & emblems doesn't seem high to you? And that's what you can see from the pictures.  I'm sure that there's a reason he didn't post any engine shots & remove the stuff out of the trunk. But, it does appear that he'll throw in his monthly bills that you can clearly see in the back seat.

This car has "danger Will Robinson" written all over it.  

[Lord Warlock]

didn't look like it was primer to me, looked like it was a satin black paint job, with the stripe over the top, otherwise would have thought cheaper was more like it. rust around rear glass was minor as far as I could tell, did not look like bad rust there, but satin black hides a lot pretty easily.  trunk shot showed a new mat, and what looked like a car cover, center section looked painted and not just rust like others on the market.

Think its kind of funny to categorize a seller as delusional because he left mail in the seat before taking pictures, yes, 45k is a bit high and I doubt he'll get that price, but can see him getting over 25k for it.  As for the gas fill tube, the stock ones aren't much to look at, I bought a chrome replacement for mine but it kept causing gas fumes to escape inside the garage so I put the original back on which did not cause stink in the garage.  We seem to get grief no matter what we do, replace old and moldy with new and shiny...get bitched at because it wasn't that way from factory, leave factory piece, get grief because its crusty or has been painted over. 

While I'll agree that his photo skills are lacking, and before posting pics to advertise for sale should at least clean out  the interior and vacuum it, basically make it presentable, not everyone thinks ahead when selling, sometimes they wait too long and then have to sell and may not have time or energy to climb around inside and make everything perfect.  I see many car for sale ads today that pretty much suck picture wise.  Is it a sin to sell a car with non working vacuum door system for headlights? If he hadn't left them up in pics, you'd probably complain he wasn't up front in not mentioning it in ad if he'd lowered the doors manually.  Fixing the doors isn't a simple affair, with all the vacuum lines, and parts that cause it to fail.  Mine leaks at switch in cluster, have replacement switch but even after I fix that, no telling if rest of system will work, fully expect to have to replace all the lines/hoses, possibly the tank under battery, or even the pots at headlights, sometimes its just not worth it, if new buyer wants to fix he should be told up front, but even those of us that restored their own cars can't fix everything. And now there isn't many places to take a car like ours to get things fixed anymore, few shops can actually do it.

It is getting to the point in this thread that any car advertised for a reasonable price is classified as delusional only because they aren't offering it at steal me prices.  Interior looked restored to me, even if dirty.  Missing emblems? not a real RT so wouldn't have many outside, b pillar charger emblem and grill charger and arrow emblems...not seen due to doors being up. 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

didn't look like it was primer to me, looked like it was a satin black paint job,

Just as bad. And yes, I will agree that the interior does look nice.

[tan top]

  , i'm posting this  ,  

   
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-/301876690412?forcerrptr=true&hash=item464940bdec:g:~V4AAOSwx-9Wx7t0&item=301876690412


not because of the current asking price  , not sure I want to get involved in that deal ( think they are all over priced imo  , im stuck in the past   ), compare it to the black primered 68 (MTD)  posted above !!

car  looks good , but as with many , the more you look , you see stuff in correct or wrong or  needing more work or fiddling with etc  .. if this car  looks as good  as it does , in its  5 /10 / 15   footer  ,  bottom of the car in the shadow  pictures ,  up close being inspected in person !!  can see a nother certain dealer buying it &  advertising for 70k plus  

then it will really be in the DCS thread  

[cbrestorations]

 , i'm posting this  ,  

   
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-/301876690412?forcerrptr=true&hash=item464940bdec:g:~V4AAOSwx-9Wx7t0&item=301876690412


not because of the current asking price  , not sure I want to get involved in that deal ( think they are all over priced imo  , im stuck in the past   ), compare it to the black primered 68 (MTD)  posted above !!

car  looks good , but as with many , the more you look , you see stuff in correct or wrong or  needing more work or fiddling with etc  .. if this car  looks as good  as it does , in its  5 /10 / 15   footer  ,  bottom of the car in the shadow  pictures ,  up close being inspected in person !!  can see a nother certain dealer buying it &  advertising for 70k plus  

then it will really be in the DCS thread  

i dont really see this car qualifying to be a delusional seller. its an rt/se in nice shape

[tan top]

 , i'm posting this  ,  

   
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-/301876690412?forcerrptr=true&hash=item464940bdec:g:~V4AAOSwx-9Wx7t0&item=301876690412


not because of the current asking price  , not sure I want to get involved in that deal ( think they are all over priced imo  , im stuck in the past   ), compare it to the black primered 68 (MTD)  posted above !!

car  looks good , but as with many , the more you look , you see stuff in correct or wrong or  needing more work or fiddling with etc  .. if this car  looks as good  as it does , in its  5 /10 / 15   footer  ,  bottom of the car in the shadow  pictures ,  up close being inspected in person !!  can see a nother certain dealer buying it &  advertising for 70k plus  

then it will really be in the DCS thread  

i dont really see this car qualifying to be a delusional seller. its an rt/se in nice shape

yes your right  ,
think I might of  made my post confusing  , ( sounded ok , when typing   )   what I said was  , I posted this car to compare price wise ,  to , the matt black 68 charger that dirty turbin posted  , then said , if  this bronze 69  looks as good in person as it does in the pictures ! then at the price of 47k , i'm sure a certain  dealer  ( remember a green & tan R/T SE ) will buy it , & then advertise it   back on ebay for 70k , prolly over 80 k now looking at his recent ads   

[VegasCharger]

yes your right  ,
think I might of  made my post confusing  , ( sounded ok , when typing   )   what I said was  , I posted this car to compare price wise ,  to , the matt black 68 charger that dirty turbin posted  , then said , if  this bronze 69  looks as good in person as it does in the pictures ! then at the price of 47k , i'm sure a certain  dealer  ( remember a green & tan R/T SE ) will buy it , & then advertise it   back on ebay for 70k , prolly over 80 k now looking at his recent ads   

Your point came across when I read your reply. I think that's a nice 69 Charger for comparison price wise to that black 68. But wondering why no under carriage shots?  Still a nice car that you could own and drive compared to buying a 10K hulk and doing the resto yourself. 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

The bronze 69 looks far more sanitary, at least in the pictures, than the primer 68.  

[TPR]

I understood you TT, you make a good point.
Most people would easily pick the Tan car over the Black one if they had 50k to drop.
You can clearly see the contrasting effort both sellers have gone to with these ads.

BTW, notice the sneaky green '68 in the garage of the Tan ad.
TPR

[Kern Dog]

It speaks of laziness to post pictures of a car where the floormats are dirty. Matte black ? That was never a factory color so the car cannot be considered "Restored".

[Lord Warlock]

I've never considered black primer, or satin "hot rod" black to be a good color for a car, it appeals to some, and it was popular with the F&F crowd to a point where now they have a name for it, the murdered out look, I'm somewhat of a purist as far as colors go, either it was available from dodge or it wasn't, and dodge had always offered a very wide choice of colors.  But I also don't insult those that like black satin...one of our more prolific posters here has one.

Bronze RT SE looked good to me, 47k is probably a realistic price for it, even if there are things to fix on it.  And coming from another RT SE owner, I don't think 50k is too high for a decent RT  SE.  If it was extremely clean and looked totally restored I'd think the price could go quite a bit higher.  There has to be a differentiation between a real RT vs a clone or non RT 383 car.  RT's used to be 70k at one point, i'd expect them to get back up there eventually. 

I agree, its laziness on part of seller NOT to clean out the interior, or NOT to spend a day or two polishing or waxing a car to make it extra shiny before attempting to sell at the 50k pricepoint.  (or even 40k).  If they were asking 25k I wouldn't be too critical of them. 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

If they were asking 25k I wouldn't be too critical of them. 

I completely agree. You can't ask "restored" money for something that isn't restored. Since this person can't take 10 minutes to clean his car out and is asking far above what the car is worth, you can see that he is completely delusional and his ad 100% qualifies to be in this thread. 

[verdelaw]

If they were asking 25k I wouldn't be too critical of them. 

I completely agree. You can't ask "restored" money for something that isn't restored. Since this person can't take 10 minutes to clean his car out and is asking far above what the car is worth, you can see that he is completely delusional and his ad 100% qualifies to be in this thread. 

^^ agreed there Turban.. def delusional 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

"You would have to look long and hard to find a finer example."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-stock-/262300233945?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d124ff0d9:g:8S8AAOSwezVWyRF7&item=262300233945


Where does one begin?   

[cdr]

 

[Daytona R/T SE]

The bronze 69 looks far more sanitary, at least in the pictures, than the primer 68.  

If I had ANY sense...

I'd buy this one and throw my other junk away.   


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-/301876690412?forcerrptr=true&hash=item464940bdec:g:~V4AAOSwx-9Wx7t0&item=301876690412

[VegasCharger]

"You would have to look long and hard to find a finer example."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-stock-/262300233945?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d124ff0d9:g:8S8AAOSwezVWyRF7&item=262300233945

Where does one begin?  

Worm gear hose clamps, zip ties for heater hoses, gaudy red wire for some sort of accessory running from the + battery post and it appears that there is no wire going to the oil sending unit to name a few.

Is the battery ground cable and throttle return spring bracket correct?

And for Christ sake can you at least clean that pie tin for a photo shoot?

I know that these are nit picking items but look at his asking price.



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