Cold start procedure

[fy469rtse]

Dino, must be my least favourite thing with these cars,
Modern fuels are formulated for pressurised systems , and these cars are not , car is normally hot when you park it, vented carburettors hot engine vaporising fuel ,
Fuel is gone by the next time you go start it ,
I install priming pump wired to crank only , short secondary line installed with pump parallel branched in to main feed line so when pump not active , fuel drawing up through main line uninterrupted , only other thing I install is a one way check valve to ensure pump pulls fuel up the branch line and not trying to draw it from carburettor source ,
Mind you I also have fuel reg and return line installed in line after this to ensure carb floats are not over powered
Has worked great on my other cars, instant fire, still have to wait for them to warm up though ,
But this cuts down on the unnecessary cranking of engine and wear on components like starter,
Still haven't checked how it functions on this car though , still unknown as chasing electrics, but getting there

[fy469rtse]

Sorry ment to add ,
Main result is instant priming of fuel line Dino,

[ChargerST]

Dino, must be my least favourite thing with these cars,
Modern fuels are formulated for pressurised systems , and these cars are not , car is normally hot when you park it, vented carburettors hot engine vaporising fuel ,
Fuel is gone by the next time you go start it ,
I install priming pump wired to crank only , short secondary line installed with pump parallel branched in to main feed line so when pump not active , fuel drawing up through main line uninterrupted , only other thing I install is a one way check valve to ensure pump pulls fuel up the branch line and not trying to draw it from carburettor source ,
Mind you I also have fuel reg and return line installed in line after this to ensure carb floats are not over powered
Has worked great on my other cars, instant fire, still have to wait for them to warm up though ,
But this cuts down on the unnecessary cranking of engine and wear on components like starter,
Still haven't checked how it functions on this car though , still unknown as chasing electrics, but getting there

This is exactly what I want to do! 

[Dino]

Fy I'm on the fence regarding carb vs efi.  The megasquirt thing looks just way too complicated for me.  Nothing I can't learn but time is always a factor and a bolt on application looks real tempting right now.  Still I'll look into all these things bit by bit and see what I can come up with.  If I stick with the carb then I'll do exactly as you described.

So I went to fire up the car a few minutes ago.  It has only sat since about 5 pm yesterday so the fuel had probably not left the building so to speak.   
Thanks to 71 SE3834V I now have a functioning choke!   

I pumped the gas pedal once and turned the key and the car fired up immediately and settled into the fast idle.  I was shocked to say the least.   

The evaporating fuel is a whole different matter I'm sure so I'm going to leave the car alone for a few days and try again.  Having a choke will sure help from now on though! 

Oh, the choke is the coil thingie with the single wire adapted to fit the TQ.  I have it hooked up to the Firecore coil which has constant and keyed 12v hooked to it.  That's okay right?

[71 SE3834V]

Next thing to try is leaving the carb on fast idle like I mentioned. It will involve popping the hood and possibly removing the air cleaner but it should close the vent and hopefully retain some fuel for a longer period. Like I told you I tried it one time w/my car but at the time I had a weak fuel pump (started leaking the next year) and an unknown worn out engine and I really didn't pay attention to how it started.
The funny thing is I don't seem to have this problem with my Galaxie unless it sits for more than a week or more. A few days, no problem.

[Dino]

Well I let the car sit all week and took it out yesterday.  It was around freezing outside so figure 5-ish degrees warmer in my unheated or insulated garage.  I set the choke with the gas pedal and cranked for about 4-5 seconds until it fired up and settled into the fast idle.  I'm happy with that!   

I guess I didn't leave it running long enough because it died when I put it in reverse.  It stalled again at the first stop but was fine by the next one so next time I just need to leave it alone a bit longer.  Overall it seems the choke solved the issue so that's one less thing to worry about.

[71 SE3834V]

Yep, pretty much how I remember these beasts running back in the day. I remember more than once rolling to a stop in neutral so I could feather the pedal to keep it running. Should get a little better if you get that stock air cleaner on and rig up a hot air intake.

[Dino]

I think so yeah, I should probably up the idle a tad as well, it's a bit on the low side even when the engine's hot.  But more than anything I should be a bit more patient and let the engine warm up a bit before I take off.   

I have 4 more weeks before the car goes into storage so I'd like to get the air cleaner working.  I have all the hoses and when tested everything works fine, all I need is a metal tube to connect the air cleaner to the headers somehow and that should do it.

[1974dodgecharger]

That's when a manual comes in very handy, lol....I get to feather the gas so I don't stall out....vroom, vroom,

[Dino]

No kidding!  I can't wait to turn this car into a manual shift.   

[1974dodgecharger]

you will still get backfire though  it happened to me at light one morning I didn't let it warm up enough I started it and instantly drove off with the gas feathered to keep it going and had to come to a stop and even with gas on, let go clutch, she backfired a bit, felt like a dumb ass, lol...car was not even 100 degrees warm yet my car likes 160 in the cold for it to even think about going anywhere.

[Dino]

Just one of many reasons why I want sequential efi to go with that 6 speed.   

This car's gonna ruin me financially... 

[1974dodgecharger]

Just one of many reasons why I want sequential efi to go with that 6 speed.   

This car's gonna ruin me financially... 

that be nice right there.....I keep telling myself im done with this car im happy, let it be, it drives a lot better than most old school chargers out there, I take it places that most never thought of, drive it daily vs others who drive weekends only if that, but sometimthing about this one keeps me going back to make it better and better, but I want a 1970 and a 69 and this car keeps me from doing it.

[Dino]

I've been driving the car more and more and it's a joy to finally be able to start this thing easily!  When it sits for a while I need to crank a few seconds but it fires up and runs great on the fast idle.  I let it be for a minute and drive off with no issues.  I do have to pop it in neutral at a stop until it warms up but my idle should probably be raised a bit.  Still, it's a small price to pay.  I drove it yesterday and when Iturned the key today it fired right up.   

I'm actually enjoying driving in the cold weather a lot more than during the summer since I don't end up stinking like raw fuel when I keep the windows closed, and now that the heater is fixed it's all the more enjoyable.   

3 more weeks before it goes into storage so I'm taking it out any chance I get.   

[71 SE3834V]

I gotta put some miles on my beast. I'll meet you half way somewhere. I'll be the guy with no hood on his car! 

[Dino]

Ha!  That'll be easy enough to spot.   

I'll be the guy going way too fast in the left lane, try to keep up and ignore the flashing lights behind me.   

[71 SE3834V]

"Just some good 'ole boys, never meaning no harm..."

[Dino]

I think the sheriff here agrees with that statement because I passed three of them this morning at about 10 over and they all ignored me.  I guess they didn't want to ruin their breakfast.   

I should probably consider a radar detector.