How many '68 R/T 4 Spd A/C Cars ?

[Challenger340]

I think this was discussed before ?

This guy says 2% of 1968 R/T Chargers were 4 speeds with A/C ?

Is that right ?

see here;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Charger-R-T-red-and-white-1968-charger-rt-/121475686553?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1c4883e099&item=121475686553&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

[JamieZ]

I've always heard none:

If that is true R/Ts could only get AC on the 440 autos.

The biggest engine option available with a 4 speed and AC was supposed to be a 383-4V, which would have been a base charger. I've heard there were only 259 4 speed 383-4Vs and only 3 of those were optioned to have AC.

[rarefish]

Notice that there is no photo of the fender tag or maybe a broadcast sheet to backup the 4 speed A/C claim...

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Except for the straight stripe, hood pins and 69 upper door pads, it looks like a nice car. Looks like it was pretty solid to begin with.

[TUFCAT]

Its not even a numbers matching drivetrain so who knows what it was born with?  

Like rarefish already said, if someone's going to make a claim like that....they better be able to show an original buildsheet and/or window sticker.  

I'm calling bullshit on this one....

[Homerr]

The pic of it in the shop shows AC firewall, probably they are just not explaining that the '69 non matching drivetrain was a conversion from auto as well.

[TUFCAT]

The pic of it in the shop shows AC firewall, probably they are just not explaining that the '69 non matching drivetrain was a conversion from auto as well.

Probably so....  somehow the current owner is convinced he's got the "ultra" rare 4-speed/air conditioned R/T with nothing to prove it.  Hey don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a 4-speed with factory appearing A/C   (starting with an a/c car is a great way to get it done)....but obviously a fake.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

....but obviously a fake.

I hate fakes.

[TUFCAT]

That's not a deal breaker turban!  

[dyslexic teddybear]

All depends on what you plan to use a fake for.......

[sdweatherman]

Says in the auction the fender tag is missing. No mention of a broadcast sheet. Probably will sell for $70K. Is there an emoticon for sarcasm?

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looks a nice charger from the pictures 

has a C-body oil pan 187 

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[472 R/T SE]

I think I got a headache trying to reread his description 3 times.   

I know it said it cause I seen it a few days back & shook my head.  The seller revised the description 3-4 times before ending it.  Must have been hounded by the 4gear/ac claim.

[TUFCAT]

Original description on ebay:

Red and White 1968 charger R/T. This Iconic Factory muscle car is one of 2743 4 speed cars produced a true xs29L . Beautiful car, engine is out of a 69 charger 440  and 4 speed with correct new hurst shifter and linkage not numbers matching. Air conditioning car( not installed have compressor and lines) factory am radio installed was a premium sound 8 track originally new dash speakers, Power steering, Power brakes with new front disc brakes, New front end including bigger front sway bar, New vinyl top, New interior including new dash pad, New weatherstripping, vintage wood steering wheel, New cragar rims wrapped in cooper cobra tires, new 2.5 in exhaust sounds great. correct hp manifolds. super nice car original floors, quarters, trunk, hood, new hood turn signals, this is a great rust free high desert car.1000.00 deposit due within 24 hrs. balance due in 7 days .ad may be pulled without notice also for sale locally. buyer is responsible for shipping .great opportunity for the most recognizable american muscle car.

[Ghoste]

Seen a few of these four speed RT claims over the last year, so far I have yet to see any of these back it up with a fender tag or broadcast sheet.

[472 R/T SE]

That's not the description it started with Tuffy.  It never was bid on so he was able to edit the main description.

I think the 2% claim was in the parenthesis.  Notice the gap after the 1st one:  ( not............