A plea for the pizza delivery guys (and gals)

[Lightning]

Hello all in DodgeCharger.com world, I come to you with a small plea.


Next time you order a pizza, and are about to tip the delivery person, take into consideration four things:
1) how far away the store is from your house
2) how bad traffic is that day
3) the weather
4) GAS PRICES

y'see, we delivery drivers are only supposed to get paid the same as a waitress/waiter (in FL it's $3.15/hr), but with the company I work for, they pay us $5.25/hr. But even still, at least half or more than half of my pay each month comes from tips alone!

typically, resturaunts won't deliver to places that are more than four miles away, however if the house is a couple blocks outside of our delivery range, we'll usually deliver anyway.

sometimes people only tip me a dollar. A DOLLAR!! that doesn't even cover how much gas I used to get to their house (in the mitsubishi even!) the majority of the time I get tipped about $2.50 or so, $3 is better.


so anyways, that's my little plea for tipping delivery drivers.

[PocketThunder]

Will you deilver to St. Paul?   

[Lightning]

i seriously doubt it

[bull]

I delivered pizza long ago when I was in college and I refused to work anyplace where I was required to use my own vehicle for deliveries. It's not worth it. The liability alone is frightening. Do you at least get a per delivery stipend from the company? If not you're basically paying them to deliver their pizza.

[Old Moparz]

Maybe you didn't deserve a tip.

1)   Did you bring the entire order?
2)   Did you bring the correct order?
3)   Did you show up on time? (Or in time for the next scheduled meal?)
4)   Did you greet the hungry customer in a friendly manner?
5)   Did you wear a clean pizza delivery uniform? (If applicable)
6)   Did you brush your teeth & present the food with a smile?
7)   Did you use the sidewalk or designated footpath to arrive at the door?
   Did you walk across the lawn & trample decorative plantings?
9)   Did you eye up the woman who answered the door in a sexual manner?
10) Did you eye up the man who answered the door in a sexual manner?
11) Did you get invited in & forget to wipe your feet?
12) Did you get invited in to satisfy anyone in a manner other than to bring food & decline?
13) Did you get invited in & attempt to satisfy in a manner other than deliver food & fail?
14) Did you forget you were indoors & spit tobacco juice on the carpet?
15) Did you go to the right house?

I'd answer those questions in complete honesty first, & then decide if you deserved a tip.

[41husk]

I always try to tip well if deserving, but I do remember many a time in the service were we barely had enough for the food and the only reason we chose pizza is because they deliver.  I think any job that depends on gratuity as majorty of the salary has to take an average.  You will have people who over tip and hopefully that covers those that don't tip at all.  On the other hand I'm sure you claim every dime in tips to uncle sam at the end of the year.  The guy who gives the $1 tip is probably closer to what is claimed than the guy who gives the $3 tip.

[Spike]

I used the money I made off of delivering pizzas to buy my Charger, then again it was 1979!!

[41husk]

thats a lotsa pizza today piazon

[TK73]

I did a summer with Papa Johns in Louisville - '89.  Loved it!!  I tip OK now.  What I did to make better $$... went back to college and graduated.

[wylde8]

There's too many people out there who are freeloaders.  They only care about themselves.  At the same time, I hate people who EXPECT some kind of huge tip for an average job.  A lot of people I know who work as waiters/waitresses fall into this category.  Just because they can walk a tray of food to a table and refill drinks doesn't mean they should make more $ than someone with a college degree. 

All I can say if you deliver is watch out.  Its a huge liability.  Check your auto insurance policy.  I'd be willing to bet you're not covered if there's an accident during a delivery and the insurance company finds out about it. 

[purple70rt]

I know here at pizza hut, they charge me $2.00 for delivery.  I'm not going to tip on top of that.  Find another job.

[Lightning]

if P-hut's charging you $2 a delivery, they're rippin people off.

I work for Papa John's, and thankfully they only charge $1.25 a delivery, of which the driver (example: me) get's a dollar of. That's to ensure our fuel cost is covered if people don't tip.


here's ya a good example, if they quote that it'll take about 45 min to deliver the pizza, 20-25 minutes is prepping the pizza and sticking it in the oven, and at most, 15 to deliver it. where I'm from there's two towns butted up against one another (think Minneapolis/St. Paul, just on a much smaller scale) and it might take me 12 minutes to get from one end of one town to the other, that's about 8 miles with a ton of stoplights.

[Mopar440+6]

At the same time, I hate people who EXPECT some kind of huge tip for an average job.  A lot of people I know who work as waiters/waitresses fall into this category.  Just because they can walk a tray of food to a table and refill drinks doesn't mean they should make more $ than someone with a college degree.

On the other hand if they do their job extremely well they deserve a good tip. There are a helluva lot of people out there that barely tip the recommended 15%. Two friends and myself went out for dinner the other night and the waiter was freaking awesome. I don't think our glasses ever got completely empty, the food was there in no time flat and he was extremely courteous about everything thus we gave him almost a 30% tip even though we're all a little tight on money. Im not saying always over-tip; IMO they have to earn their tip...

[Blown70]

At the same time, I hate people who EXPECT some kind of huge tip for an average job.  A lot of people I know who work as waiters/waitresses fall into this category.  Just because they can walk a tray of food to a table and refill drinks doesn't mean they should make more $ than someone with a college degree.

On the other hand if they do their job extremely well they deserve a good tip. There are a helluva lot of people out there that barely tip the recommended 15%. Two friends and myself went out for dinner the other night and the waiter was freaking awesome. I don't think our glasses ever got completely empty, the food was there in no time flat and he was extremely courteous about everything thus we gave him almost a 30% tip even though we're all a little tight on money. Im not saying always over-tip; IMO they have to earn their tip...

I agree.  I tip on service.  I go out I expect service.  I will never eat at another applebees.  For certain reasons.

In Vegas the Mandlay Bay.  I left 0 yea a big fat 0 for a tip.  I paid cash at the table and the guy counted out my change I took the coins and dollars and left.  WORST fricking service ever.  I had to ask the table next to me for the ketchup as the CHUMP never stopped by after we got our food.  The look on his face when I walked out with out tipping him was priceless .  The fact he thought he should have gotten one was even more funny..

TOm

[Lightning]

although I have noticed (as far as delivering goes) people tend to already have how much they are going to tip figured out, even If the driver gets there 10 minutes ahead of the time the person on the phone said they would.

[bull]

The best tippers are drunks.

[Blown70]

The best tippers are drunks.

HAHAHA. yea cannot see if it is a $1 a $10 or $100.  LOL

[dkn1997]

I always tip the pizza guy at least 4 bucks.  I delivered for dominos in the 80's while going to SUNY Cortland and got stiffed on the tip by enough of the residents to know better than to do the same

[Chris G.]

My Domino's guy takes care of me, so I take care of him. Now Pappa John's is a different story. While they have a nice selection, I had to drop them. The whole operation at this location is crazy. I had a 30 minute disccussion with the manager one night trying to give him advice on giving a better service. I never do stuff like that, but this particular Pappa John's sent me over the edge. I do miss those thin crust Spinach Alfredo pies though...

[wylde8]

At the same time, I hate people who EXPECT some kind of huge tip for an average job.  A lot of people I know who work as waiters/waitresses fall into this category.  Just because they can walk a tray of food to a table and refill drinks doesn't mean they should make more $ than someone with a college degree.

On the other hand if they do their job extremely well they deserve a good tip. There are a helluva lot of people out there that barely tip the recommended 15%. Two friends and myself went out for dinner the other night and the waiter was freaking awesome. I don't think our glasses ever got completely empty, the food was there in no time flat and he was extremely courteous about everything thus we gave him almost a 30% tip even though we're all a little tight on money. Im not saying always over-tip; IMO they have to earn their tip...

No arguments from me.  If they do an awesome job, they deserve more than the expected 15%.  Like you said, it should be earned, not expected. 

[ChgrSteve67]

Tony's Frozen pizza is always the best and its ready in half the time - $3.50 on sale.
If I want a fresh pizza I stop and pick up a Papa Murphy's take and bake $10.
I also do the Boboli bread with some salsa peperoni, mushrooms, olives and cheese, 5 Minutes to throw it together and 10 in the oven - done.

Pizza Hut use to be really good until they went the Domino's Delivery angle.
Papa Johns has always sucked.
Round Table is ok.
Strawhat almost all but vanished.
Godfathers Pizza is history in my area.

I find the Small mom and pop pizza joints are the best for dine in pizza.

As far as tipping goes I usually tip 15 to 20 percent if I get good service.
If it takes more than an hour and my pizza is burnt, cold, looks like its took a ride in a tornado or has had the lid smashed on it .......
I think you can guess the rest.

Personally I think companys should pay their employees for the job they do and charge for the product accordingly not expect the consumer to make up the difference so their product looks cheeper than what it really is.

Just my 2 cents

[dodgecharger-fan]

I delivered pizza long ago when I was in college and I refused to work anyplace where I was required to use my own vehicle for deliveries. It's not worth it. The liability alone is frightening. Do you at least get a per delivery stipend from the company? If not you're basically paying them to deliver their pizza.

Same here. Actually, I did just about everything in the pizza places I worked: cash, prep work, making pizzas/wings/subs/etc.. so, I was earning an hourly wage. Delivery was a nice break from the heat of the kitchen.
And the car belonged to the company and they covered gas. That was the best place for making money.

A lot of places around here don't have their own delivery anymore. They use a a delivery service that tacks $2.50 onto the order.

The service pays for the order from the pizza place and then collects the money from you with an extra $2.50. For an extra dollar they swing by the store and grab you some smokes or whatever else you want.
The service gets a cut, the driver gets a cut plus his tips. I usually add a buck. $3.50 is as much as I'll pay for delivery....
I often see whole families in the car doing deliveries.

[Shakey]

Make your own pizza.  1/8 of the cost and tastes way better.  My Daughter enjoys helping to put the toppings on.  Buy the pre-made dough at your grocery store and go to it.

You want to make good tips, get a job as a waiter in an exspensive restaurant.  Sure the table turnaround is lower than say Red Lobster, but the bills and tips are way higher. 

Be professional, courteous and know what you are serving and the customers will come back to the restaurant for the food and to see you.  You will make a great living doing that and be able to work in a nice environment also. You'd only be on the road twice in a day, to work and home. 

I've never been a waiter but if that was the profession I chose, that would be my plan.

[Silver R/T]

Maybe you didn't deserve a tip.

1)   Did you bring the entire order?
2)   Did you bring the correct order?
3)   Did you show up on time? (Or in time for the next scheduled meal?)
4)   Did you greet the hungry customer in a friendly manner?
5)   Did you wear a clean pizza delivery uniform? (If applicable)
6)   Did you brush your teeth & present the food with a smile?
7)   Did you use the sidewalk or designated footpath to arrive at the door?
   Did you walk across the lawn & trample decorative plantings?
9)   Did you eye up the woman who answered the door in a sexual manner?
10) Did you eye up the man who answered the door in a sexual manner?
11) Did you get invited in & forget to wipe your feet?
12) Did you get invited in to satisfy anyone in a manner other than to bring food & decline?
13) Did you get invited in & attempt to satisfy in a manner other than deliver food & fail?
14) Did you forget you were indoors & spit tobacco juice on the carpet?
15) Did you go to the right house?

I'd answer those questions in complete honesty first, & then decide if you deserved a tip.

lol

[HAZZARDJOHN]

one of My roommates in college (We rented a 6 bedroom house) refused to pay tips ever! It always pissed me of. He said they get paid to deliver the Pizza and he doesn't get extra money for being nice to customers at his work so why should they. When I heard he ordered a Pizza I would sit on the porch and wait for the pizza guy. I would hand him a 5 and say the guy in there will pay for the pizza. He did the same at a restaurant to.

~HJ

[MyMopar]

All I can say if you deliver is watch out.  Its a huge liability.  Check your auto insurance policy.  I'd be willing to bet you're not covered if there's an accident during a delivery and the insurance company finds out about it. 

This is VERY TRUE, well depending on your state maybe.  I've been in the delivery business for over 10 years and have seen what can happen with sub contract drivers who try to cheap out.  If you do get in an accident while making a delivery and your insurance doesn't know you use your vehilce for purposes other than PERSONAL transportation, they will not cover the claim.  You will then either have to sue who you work for (not likely) or the people involved will sue who you work for (more likely but 80% chance that the company come sout ahead).

One guy parked his car, went in and made a delivery and then backed out of his spot for whatever reason w/o knowing that someone had parked right behind him, in a Mercedes.  His insurance wouldn't cove r the claim, we got a call but couldn't be held liable so the owner of the car ended up placing a claim on his own policy for repairs.  Just be careful.

[Charger_Fan]

Moparz...that was classic!

Im not saying always over-tip; IMO they have to earn their tip...

I couldn't agree more. IMO, that's why it's called a tip...because the waitress/waiter earns an extra bonus over & above their hourly wage for a job well done. The person who gives me crappy service definitely gets tipped accordingly...or not tipped at all.
I always tip a person well who gives good service.

One peeve I have is when you're finished with dinner & you have to wait 20 minutes for your bill...or they take your credit card at the table to pay for dinner & don't return for 20 minutes!

[Shakey]

On tipping - check out the breakfast scene in "Reservoir Dogs".

[2fast4u]

   well lightning06    as a rule of thumb that we use ourselves is---when we order a pizza (from whomever) we always make sure we get a time frame.  from there we always use the 10% of the total as a measure of total tip.... even if it's longer than time promised.....but if the delivery is faster....we tip more.
    hey!  pizza drivers have to make a livin' too!!

[Telvis]

I tip pretty well. However I don't agree with the whole process. If I pay for something the delivery or service charge should be included. I think tips are extortion through guilt. I was a Police Officer and never got a tip. Firemen don't get tips. You don't tip your childs teacher every time you pick up your kids. If I pay $75 for my wife and I to go out to dinner why should I feel obligated to leave an additional $12 for a tip? Don't get me wrong, I still do. I just don't like it.

[RT DAVE]

When I delivered za for pizza the hut, we got a mileage reimbursement of $.25 a mile back in 1993 & $.50 per delivery.   You're getting screwed if they only give you $1 per delivery nowadays.   Go work somewhere else if they don't pay you enough.   I would make $30-50 in tips in a four hour shift on a semi busy night back then.   

[Lightning]

I've been thinking about it for awhile now, once I turn 21 (that's at the end of may) I'm gonna apply at UPS.

[Old Moparz]

I've been thinking about it for awhile now, once I turn 21 (that's at the end of may) I'm gonna apply at UPS.

Let me know if this gal still works there.

[Charger_Fan]

That reminds me, we're almost out of floss at home. 

[Ponch ®]

I've been thinking about it for awhile now, once I turn 21 (that's at the end of may) I'm gonna apply at UPS.

Let me know if this gal still works there.

she can handle my package anytime...

[Shakey]

I've been thinking about it for awhile now, once I turn 21 (that's at the end of may) I'm gonna apply at UPS.

Let me know if this gal still works there.

she can handle my package anytime...

Wouldn't it be easier & cheaper just to send a small package as such through the US Postal Service with a $0.50 stamp. 

[89MOPAR]

I tip pretty well. However I don't agree with the whole process. If I pay for something the delivery or service charge should be included. I think tips are extortion through guilt. I was a Police Officer and never got a tip. Firemen don't get tips. You don't tip your childs teacher every time you pick up your kids. If I pay $75 for my wife and I to go out to dinner why should I feel obligated to leave an additional $12 for a tip? Don't get me wrong, I still do. I just don't like it.

There used to be a Huge association against tipping back in the 20's + 30's in America.  Their position was it was degrading to want more than what you were already getting paid.  Back then the prevalent attitude was that tipping was wrong.

I can agree with Telvis. - My Buddy absolutely will not Tip Pizza.  He works as a stove installer. Gas / Propane / Wood etc.   He figures he may be at a customers house 4 hours or all day or 2 days, climbing on roofs no matter how steep, going into insect filled crawlspaces to lay pipe, taking off and putting on shoes each time he enters the house.  Leaves the house clean with happy customer with Heat.  Carrying 300 Lb stove.     Does he get tipped ?  No.     But the dude who walks  50 feet up to a door carrying a 2 pound pizza + knocks deserves 10% or more ??

  I tend to agree with stove - installer dude.  However I do not order delivery. As MyFast says " delivery is for Wimps".
  Besides I don't need some pizza delivery guy telling his crackhead friends about a house with several " mint" old cars just ready for the stealing....

[dkn1997]

If you want really good pizza, come to NY/NJ.  best pizza I ever had.

[TK73]

I've been thinking about it for awhile now, once I turn 21 (that's at the end of may) I'm gonna apply at UPS.

Let me know if this gal still works there.

she can handle my package anytime...

Wouldn't it be easier & cheaper just to send a small package as such through the US Postal Service with a $0.50 stamp. 

[TheGhost]

I always try to tip well if deserving, but I do remember many a time in the service were we barely had enough for the food and the only reason we chose pizza is because they deliver.  I think any job that depends on gratuity as majorty of the salary has to take an average.  You will have people who over tip and hopefully that covers those that don't tip at all.  On the other hand I'm sure you claim every dime in tips to uncle sam at the end of the year.  The guy who gives the $1 tip is probably closer to what is claimed than the guy who gives the $3 tip.

I always thought that tips were tax free?

[Old Moparz]

I always thought that tips were tax free?

They are until the IRS finds out you've been getting them.

[69charger2002]

i totally understand telvis's point of view.. and i agree. why tip for a job like that?? the pay should just be higher to begin with. i worked at a restaurant for $2.12 an hour(i don't understand how that pay structure philosophy ever came to pass). and at domino's for 2 years back in the day.. made good money, but even so they paid me $5.50 an hour plus $.75 a delivery.. well taking 2-3 at a time and gas was $1.50 i made $15 extra on that end too at night's end, not counting tips... so it's a double edged sword.. i totally agree with the extortion by guilt thing. because when you see an 18 year old come up to your door with a pizza and they look so damn bummed out like they are just loving life SO MUCH, you can't help but give them a few bucks.. but like you said. i don't understand why it's either not already included, or why it was ever designed to be this way. but it doesn't make sense.. but back to the original topic lightning 06 been there done that bro. $1 tip sucks when you get there 10 minutes early or 10 minutes late.. very frustrating.. and just for the record.. i get mine carryout now since i live 4 miles away.. because 1. i'm a tightwad for everything except chargers.. 2. it's 4 miles away, i can get my lazy ass up off the couch and drive there.. and 3. usually when we order pizza, it's friday or saturday night.. which is the busiest night anyway with lead times generally 45 minutes to an hour.. and i'd rather go pick up my hot pizza than wait forever and take a chance that it's only lukewarm when i get it
trav

[Steve P.]

I haven't had a PIZZA in Florida worth paying for, much less tipping for..

If you want a real PIZZA you have to go to DELINDA's or Tom & Nancy's in Rochester, NY.   
Isn't that right GOLDEN 73 ?

[golden73]

I haven't had a PIZZA in Florida worth paying for, much less tipping for..

If you want a real PIZZA you have to go to DELINDA's or Tom & Nancy's in Rochester, NY.   
Isn't that right GOLDEN 73 ?

I have had Delindas... and what a treat that is!!!

But my favorite is Piatzas... $3 for a slice that is bigger than 3 normals slices... and the chicken wing pizza... mmmm

I might have to go get some right now! 

[41husk]

I can't believe the topic is still tips after the picture of that UPS worker.  I need to go order some parts

[Lightning]

to be rightly honest, I'm surprised this topic's still around.....none of mine ever last this long.

[41husk]

Every dog has his day Lightning   People around here like StLouis style pizza, paper thin crust and provalone cheese.  I personaly like the pan pizza more calorie per slice

[my73charger]

I tip pretty well. However I don't agree with the whole process. If I pay for something the delivery or service charge should be included. I think tips are extortion through guilt. I was a Police Officer and never got a tip. Firemen don't get tips. You don't tip your childs teacher every time you pick up your kids. If I pay $75 for my wife and I to go out to dinner why should I feel obligated to leave an additional $12 for a tip? Don't get me wrong, I still do. I just don't like it.

I do give extra to the REALLY good waiter/waitress too...about 20% usually.  Overall thought I agree with Telvis.

[rare69]

I've been thinking about it for awhile now, once I turn 21 (that's at the end of may) I'm gonna apply at UPS.

Let me know if this gal still works there.

she can handle my package anytime...

that is a very nice box!

[BigBlackDodge]

Whoa! She's got a lot of piercings on that that right ear! (....and yes.........it took me a long time to get that far up on her)


I delivered pizzas back in the 80's, 71 Dart with a /6...........that car was designed for pizza delivery!

Our shop stopped delivering pies on the weekends at 2:00am................lots of weird people roaming around at that time of night! One night early in my delivery career I stopped to ask directions to an elderly gentleman sitting on his porch around midinight. "Mr.......could you tell me which house is 342?"

The old man stood up, he was holding a shotgun!!!! "Getta outa here Cracker!" This was in the poorer section of town....

Never knew the /6 could burn rubber, but I learned that night!

It was a fun job but I also felt like a target at times...........I was just waiting for someone to make a cash withdrawl from me at anytime.

Most houses did not turn the outside light on at night.........or have a visible address marked anywhere. You have to find a house number on the street and start counting.......even numbers this side.....odd that side......etc. And maybe you wont get shot or mugged!

Do these guys/gals deserve tips if the service was good..................hell yeah they do!

I find that the people who don't tip are the ones who never had a job like that where your income depended on it.


BBD

[moparguy01]

I know both sides of the fence there since I was a manager for a papa johns back in high school. Us people in the store never got tips and we made the stupid pizzas. yet for driving them to their place they deserve a tip? after all the hard work is already done. I dont think so. store employees never got paid more than maybe 50 cents more an hour than drivers, and thats if they had been there awhile.

and when a place charges for delivery. thats bogus. I'm not even going to tell you how much it costs most places to make a large pepperoni pizza. lets just say that it's padded enough to cover a delivery fee. If you feel you dont make enough money doing deliverys, then get a job in the store and do some actual hard work. try to get on as a shift manager or something. Or the novel idea. get a different job! damnedest idea isnt it?

[greenpigs]

I'm not even going to tell you how much it costs most places to make a large pepperoni pizza.

Why, they going to track you down and have you sleep with the fish?

I pick up my order most times as I am close to the major chains and a few mom & pop places. My local favorite is Joes who uses the best cheese and just the right amount of sauce..man I can shred my underware after a helping of that fart bomb they call pizza.

My advise on your deliver job is to start looking for a different one.

[Old Moparz]

I can shred my underware after a helping of that fart bomb they call pizza.

I got an extra box of depends, you need some?

[Lightning]

I know both sides of the fence there since I was a manager for a papa johns back in high school. Us people in the store never got tips and we made the stupid pizzas. yet for driving them to their place they deserve a tip? after all the hard work is already done. I dont think so. store employees never got paid more than maybe 50 cents more an hour than drivers, and thats if they had been there awhile.

and when a place charges for delivery. thats bogus. I'm not even going to tell you how much it costs most places to make a large pepperoni pizza. lets just say that it's padded enough to cover a delivery fee. If you feel you dont make enough money doing deliverys, then get a job in the store and do some actual hard work. try to get on as a shift manager or something. Or the novel idea. get a different job! damnedest idea isnt it?

these days they have us help out in the store when we aren't delivering, I often find myself having to answer the phones since it seems like I'm the only driver that even knows how to.

I'm just gonna hang on until I save up enough to move to N.C. and go to NTI.

[moparguy01]

I know both sides of the fence there since I was a manager for a papa johns back in high school. Us people in the store never got tips and we made the stupid pizzas. yet for driving them to their place they deserve a tip? after all the hard work is already done. I dont think so. store employees never got paid more than maybe 50 cents more an hour than drivers, and thats if they had been there awhile.

and when a place charges for delivery. thats bogus. I'm not even going to tell you how much it costs most places to make a large pepperoni pizza. lets just say that it's padded enough to cover a delivery fee. If you feel you dont make enough money doing deliverys, then get a job in the store and do some actual hard work. try to get on as a shift manager or something. Or the novel idea. get a different job! damnedest idea isnt it?

these days they have us help out in the store when we aren't delivering, I often find myself having to answer the phones since it seems like I'm the only driver that even knows how to.

I'm just gonna hang on until I save up enough to move to N.C. and go to NTI.

and you should have to as well. I made my drivers do it too. They get paid decent, and if they arent on a delivery I'm not just gonna GIVE them their hourly wage. they're gonna have to do some work for it. Where i'm from if your not doing anything and expect to STAND around and do not a damn thing then I'm gonna go ahead and say go ahead and try it on my watch. you'll be told to go home or I'd just can ya right then and there. thats the problem with todays youth, none of them want to work for their money. I'm sure as hell not gonna give money away.

[Afturhrz]

I know both sides of the fence there since I was a manager for a papa johns back in high school. Us people in the store never got tips and we made the stupid pizzas. yet for driving them to their place they deserve a tip? after all the hard work is already done. I dont think so. store employees never got paid more than maybe 50 cents more an hour than drivers, and thats if they had been there awhile.

and when a place charges for delivery. thats bogus. I'm not even going to tell you how much it costs most places to make a large pepperoni pizza. lets just say that it's padded enough to cover a delivery fee. If you feel you dont make enough money doing deliverys, then get a job in the store and do some actual hard work. try to get on as a shift manager or something. Or the novel idea. get a different job! damnedest idea isnt it?

Yea but I dont see the in store employees running their cars down the road either, not to mention the liability at stake. I wonder if the drivers personal insurance company will pay knowing the car is being used for commercial purposes. Most of the time you cant put a price on the wear and tear of a vehicle either. 

[moparguy01]

I know both sides of the fence there since I was a manager for a papa johns back in high school. Us people in the store never got tips and we made the stupid pizzas. yet for driving them to their place they deserve a tip? after all the hard work is already done. I dont think so. store employees never got paid more than maybe 50 cents more an hour than drivers, and thats if they had been there awhile.

and when a place charges for delivery. thats bogus. I'm not even going to tell you how much it costs most places to make a large pepperoni pizza. lets just say that it's padded enough to cover a delivery fee. If you feel you dont make enough money doing deliverys, then get a job in the store and do some actual hard work. try to get on as a shift manager or something. Or the novel idea. get a different job! damnedest idea isnt it?

Yea but I dont see the in store employees running their cars down the road either, not to mention the liability at stake. I wonder if the drivers personal insurance company will pay knowing the car is being used for commercial purposes. Most of the time you cant put a price on the wear and tear of a vehicle either. 

Thats a risk of the job. Nobody FORCES them to be a driver. they probably need help in the store too. Thats a personal choice to use your own vehicle and insurance to do it. The in store employees choose not to put the wear and tear on their vehicles and such. IMO its not worth being a driver just because of the wear and tear. and because of that I wasnt a driver!