Hellcat CHARGER performance numbers are staggering!!!!

[War wagon]

http://www.torquenews.com/106/torquenews-exclusive-hellcat-charger-runs-107-29s-0-60-drs-video

Just think , the driver lifted during that run LMAO
wait until stage 1, 2, 3 are released for the Hellcat engines....
I hope they sell thousands and thousands of them!

[SovereignZuul]

 

Under 11 seconds in a car that heavy.. from the factory?!




I'm guessing it's not even NHRA legal at this point?

[Ghoste]

And the Ford and GM guys are just pouring out in opposition too, talking about Hennesy this and Roush that and claiming that if any aftermarket tuner works on the Hellcats to try and make them compete with the Hennesy's and Roush's that they will explode within 2000 miles because its still just a junky Mopar.
Ha!  Facts are facts boys, get used to the taillights.

[1965gp]

Damn that's fast.....,

[6spd68]

And the Ford and GM guys are just pouring out in opposition too, talking about Hennesy this and Roush that and claiming that if any aftermarket tuner works on the Hellcats to try and make them compete with the Hennesy's and Roush's that they will explode within 2000 miles because its still just a junky Mopar.
Ha!  Facts are facts boys, get used to the taillights.

It's exciting to see these companies develope high horsepower versions of these cars.  As an enthusiast with no true brand loyalty; it's all the more fun to just sit back and watch the creations come to be.   

[moparnation74]

Under 11 seconds in a car that heavy.. from the factory?!




I'm guessing it's not even NHRA legal at this point?

NO KIDDING!

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Will it run those numbers, back to back? Like the Challenger, not likely. 

[Indygenerallee]

Will it run those numbers, back to back? Like the Challenger, not likely.  Twocents

Why not??? Same damn engine

[Ghoste]

I imagine it won't be long before someone carefully blueprints one and beats those numbers... back to back to back.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Will it run those numbers, back to back? Like the Challenger, not likely.  Twocents

Why not??? Same damn engine

Challenger Hellcat = small intercooler/heat exchanger=heat soak=non repeatable performance. 

[73rallye440magnum]

Depends on time between runs. Please remember materials dissipate heat as well as absorb it.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Depends on time between runs. Please remember materials dissipate heat as well as absorb it.

Sure, of course they do. But running right off the trailer, then waiting an hour or more to cool down, is pretty lame 

[Ghoste]

I doubt the other press gathering performance trials are much different nor have ever been.  The idea is to get the best possible and you can bet they are all taking whatever steps they can to ensure it.

[1974dodgecharger]

20 years from now the hellcat will be a collectible the chalky with manual especially.  The charger hellcat will be collectible only for the engine for people who want to get the challenger he
Location clones.

[War wagon]

Here you go.... All your questions answered about cooling!
This car is the Real Deal!
http://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge-charger-and-challenger-hellcat-hemi-secrets-uncovered

During that run in my first post you can CLEARLY hear the driver lift off the gas!! Have trouble repeating the 10.7??? Ya the next pass you're gonna break out and run 10.5 if you keep your foot in it!!
The average trap speed for the Hellcat package is 126-27mph and that pass the timeslip is 120MPH, driver CLEARLY lifted!

The car dyno's with 671 WHP AND 604 WTQ, clearly the 707 number is seriously underrated IMHO

707 is a marketing gimmick , if you flip it upside down its  LOL

Mopar FTW!!

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Here you go.... All your questions answered about cooling!
This car is the Real Deal!
http://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge-charger-and-challenger-hellcat-hemi-secrets-uncovered

During that run in my first post you can CLEARLY hear the driver lift off the gas!! Have trouble repeating the 10.7??? Ya the next pass you're gonna break out and run 10.5 if you keep your foot in it!!
The average trap speed for the Hellcat package is 126-27mph and that pass the timeslip is 120MPH, driver CLEARLY lifted!

The car dyno's with 671 WHP AND 604 WTQ, clearly the 707 number is seriously underrated IMHO

707 is a marketing gimmick , if you flip it upside down its  LOL

Mopar FTW!!

This is pretty "LOLable"

The most significant features of the Hellcat IHI supercharger are the integrated water to air heat exchangers (aka intercoolers) that help to reduce the charge air temperatures (the air being forced into the engine) to right 60 degrees Celsius. This is achieved by a unique cooling loop that only cools the supercharger housing with cooling fluids that are kept around 40C for improved heat rejection capacity. In other words, the Hellcat's supercharger has its own cooling system that functions independent of the engine coolant and it helps to ensure that the supercharger itself and the air entering the engine are cool enough to make 707hp all day long. - See more at: http://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge-charger-and-challenger-hellcat-hemi-secrets-uncovered#sthash.Eh5hRDF0.dpuf

Those are some small intercooler cores 

[Indygenerallee]

Gotta love haters 

[War wagon]

Those are some small intercooler cores 

At the media launch, the Hellcat Challengers being tested on the road course at Portland International Raceway were driven hard on the track for several straight hours with no real breaks and those who race know that "hot lapping" is a great way to push an engine to its limits. Well, after four hours of abuse, none of the Hellcat Challengers on hand showed one bit of weakness. No overheating, no drop in performance – nothing but the pure unadulterated fury of the most powerful American production engine of all time. - See more at: http://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge-charger-and-challenger-hellcat-hemi-secrets-uncovered#sthash.Eh5hRDF0.uq9pAkx8.dpuf

They must be big enough. . Seem to hold up fine to abuse in the real world.

[SRT-440]

Mopar could build a 1000 hp...9 second...2 door charger and ppl would still pick it apart.
Usually from the ppl that know nothing about the Gen III Hemis.
Personally, I could careless what GM and Ford have to offer...with that being said...the Hellcat Charger runs a 2.90 0-60 and the new Z06 does it in 2.95. 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Gotta love haters 

[ws23rt]

I've haven't seen where these hellcat cars are pretending to be something they are not.
The critics from other brand persuasions will do what they do and brand loyalty is why they ramble on.

[Indygenerallee]

Mopar could build a 1000 hp...9 second...2 door charger and ppl would still pick it apart.

Exactly

[odcics2]

Gotta love haters 

I'm with you....   

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

They must be big enough. . Seem to hold up fine to abuse in the real world.

The don't, which was my point. Show me back to back, repeatable performance.  

[Mytur Binsdirti]

They must be big enough. . Seem to hold up fine to abuse in the real world.

The don't, which was my point. Show me back to back, repeatable performance.  

You sem to know something that the rest of us commoners don't know; instead of asking us to prove that itis a great performer (which you know that we can't), how about YOU proving that it runs like shit?    

By chance, are you one of these guys who believes that the moon landing was faked?

[moparnation74]

For a production car carrying a factory warranty, weighing 4k pounds, 671 plus horsepower, 11 sec et's, and for less than 70k.

That in itself is amazing!!!

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

They must be big enough. . Seem to hold up fine to abuse in the real world.

The don't, which was my point. Show me back to back, repeatable performance.  

You sem to know something that the rest of us commoners don't know; instead of asking us to prove that itis a great performer (which you know that we can't), how about YOU proving that it runs like shit?    

By chance, are you one of these guys who believes that the moon landing was faked?

Nope, the moon landing was real, and the intercoolers on this car are small and inefficient. Again, heat soak will keep the car from running repeatable numbers.

That said, I'd probably buy a Hellcat Charger, then address the shortfalls. 

[Ghoste]

So its just conjecture on your part at this point.

[Indygenerallee]

XS29L9Bxxxxxx, I am Pretty sure the the development team that designed the Hellcat engine knows a lot more than you.

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

XS29L9Bxxxxxx, I am Pretty sure the the development team that designed the Hellcat engine knows a lot more than you.

Two things... Why be personal? And why be assumptive? 

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

So its just conjecture on your part at this point.

Yep

[ws23rt]

Their is plenty of info out their to address the short falls now. And it has been done already.
Good grief this car does many things--- a lot of them rather well and is only 60K.

[1974dodgecharger]

XS29L9Bxxxxxx, I am Pretty sure the the development team that designed the Hellcat engine knows a lot more than you.

how do you know he is NOT part of the R and D team?  He is showing insight that will be an upgrade in the 2016 hellcats with larger coolers to address a problem they knew about now....kinda like Apple products.

[Ghoste]

I would hope anyone on the R&D team would be a little more enthusiastic about what they've accomplished here than to refer to it as "lame".

[Ghoste]

So its just conjecture on your part at this point.

Yep

Fair enough. 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

They must be big enough. . Seem to hold up fine to abuse in the real world.

The don't, which was my point. Show me back to back, repeatable performance.  

You sem to know something that the rest of us commoners don't know; instead of asking us to prove that itis a great performer (which you know that we can't), how about YOU proving that it runs like shit?    

By chance, are you one of these guys who believes that the moon landing was faked?

Nope, the moon landing was real, and the intercoolers on this car are small and inefficient. Again, heat soak will keep the car from running repeatable numbers.

That said, I'd probably buy a Hellcat Charger, then address the shortfalls.  

I will admit that I am not privy to the size of the intercoolers between the two vehicles and to be honest, I don't know what is considered to be adequate size. However, I would tend to trust the factory engineers knowing that if the car won't perform, that it will be savaged by those who test drive the car.

Once again, you seem to know something that the rest of us don't; to back up your claim(s), why not share the information that you have instead of just being a naysayer?

[moparnation74]

My two cents for comparison,

I had a 2008 Saleen Mustang s281 supercharged.  From Saleen they came with an subpar intercooler but for the overall package it met all demands for performance/cooling etc.  You could also buy an aftermarket intercooler from Saleen or another vendor that was much larger and had electric fans.  Which I eventually did and added a gallon overflow tank for even more cooling ability. Overall, enhanced performance with better cooling and limiting the engine from getting heat soaked.  

I am sure these parts will be readily available for the Hellcat soon.  Than the owners can upgrade whatever they want.  However, be careful on what you upgrade(pulleys), tunes etc., it will void the warranty.  Changing an intercooler will not void the warranty.  However, they will know if you did any of the other mods.  Saleen owners used to put the old pulleys back on and change back to the original tune and take it in for warranty work. When the dealer hooked up the OBD port for a warranty issue they said, "Sorry but you have voided the warranty the car has been altered."  The manufacture has special access to your computer, whether you wipe it clean or not.

For me, I did not care about the manufacture warranty.  I bought the car to race.  I got 602 RWHP on the dyno out of that 281 small block.  It was wicked fast.

I cannot even imagine what you could get out of the Hellcat with future performance upgrades!!!!!

[Indygenerallee]

They stated in one article that they had one to 1200 HP and it did not come apart, and I can believe it with the specs on the bottom end.