Ebay Superbird -

[tan top]

I found this car in a barn in Cumberland Va. about 8 or 9 years ago. I traded a 1970 Road Runner for it. The car is a real Superbird. When I traded for the car I believe the inspection sticker was from 1978. The car had a 383 in it and the owners did not know what happened to the 440.(long story) I gave the car to my dad who lived in Florida as I already had a B5 Superbird. When my dad was told he had terminal leukemia we traded the car to Le Hodge at Hodge restorations for payment to restore my dads race car. Le sold the car to the Gemza's (Creations by Gemza) They had the car for several years and then traded or sold it back to Le (I think last year) I registered the car with the Superbird club in Wisconsin shortly after I traded for it. With all that being said if you are an interested buyer you now have some people to call. You can contact me as well and I will give you an honest description of what it looked like and condition when I took it out of the barn.

hello & welcome   

[1970Moparmann]

Q: Hey Hank. Troy Hawkes here from Houston with the V2 Daytona... You sure on no-trades? I have a killer black '69 Daytona clone with red stripe/wing. https://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/24583851 Troy
A: HELLO TROY, THANKS FOR THE OFFER BUT LOOKING TO SALE OUTRIGHT, THANKS HANK



Troy, at least you tried!

BTW, how does this Hank come across so many Birds?  This guy must have sold 10/15 birds in the last 10 years.

[nascarxx29]

Hank is that guy from Conway SC who had the red charger 500 and numerous other cars dont know how he does it . I know he wheels and deals with a friend of mine with a car museum in Myrtle beach SC

[SouthernChargers]

Is this friends museum "Wheels of Yesteryear"?

[rob-dirt]

Is this friends museum "Wheels of Yesteryear"?

Yep just down the road on RT 581 His name is Paul Cummings http://www.wheelsofyesteryearmb.com/ theirs a C 500 in their

[rnjump]

 

[nascarxx29]

Pauls got my daytone clone

[Redbird]

The seller seems to sell Superbirds fairly often so I'd guess he knows exactly what he has.

The wrong grommet hole on the firewall is kind of interesting. David Patik's 1992 article on building a Superbird has interest here.

David's notes about the difference in air conditioned and non air conditioned cars with the firewall having dimples comes to mind.

So according to David, the cars were drilled according to the options (on the big broadcast sheet?).

1968 and 1969 Chargers had to be drilled like Superbirds. Did this wrong location happen occasionally on the 1968 and 1969 Chargers too?

Also how were the holes on the firewall cut? Did a jig have to fit up to the firewall? Would it be something like a Greenlee (sic) jig like an electrician uses? I am thinking that the cuts in the firewall are not done roughly like the home hobbyist would do with a hole saw. But the factory would be cutting hundreds (if it was Chargers) of holes a day, so it would have to be a more durable cutter than a electrician's Greenlee cutter. Also at Lynch Road were they building Chargers, or just Belvederes and Coronets?

The car has the trunk lid stops, right 3 speed windshield wipers, and everything else. Somehow the wrong firewall dimple got drilled.

[DoubleDlover]

yes. If in fact the wrong hole did get drilled. This would be very important because its solid proof that there could be mistakes on these cars that should be accepted. So what about the core support and or trunk pil vin stamp? Are there pics of those numbers to look at?

[pettybird]

does anyone have their car apart enough to feel if their headlamp hose hole was cut or stamped?  I don't feel like backing my car out of the garage and pulling that grommet to find out.   

[1970Moparmann]

$65,000 bought it!   Who is the lucky person??

[rob-dirt]

 OOPS      Double Post

[rob-dirt]

$65,000 bought it!   Who is the lucky person??

RESERVE NOT MET  ---- BUT I THINK HE WANT,S MORE THEN THAT FOR IT

[DoubleDlover]

interesting. When asked for pics of the numbers stamped on the body everything went quiet???  Interesting..

[Ghoste]

 

[tan top]

interesting. When asked for pics of the numbers stamped on the body everything went quiet???  Interesting..

 

[rob-dirt]

interesting. When asked for pics of the numbers stamped on the body everything went quiet???  Interesting..

7 days of putting up with people on ebay would do that to ya  but the new member horsepwr426 should know since he owned the car before 

[1970Moparmann]

My bad... I thought it met reserve.

[70Sbird]

OK, just thinking out loud here, Yes I know that's a dangerous passtime...
So lets assume that it is a real Superbird, body numbers are all there and verified....It's a column auto B5 car with a NOM and needing some parts, TLC and paint, but is a good "Starter" Superbird.
What kind of money should it bring? I was going to guess on the low end of the $60,000 to $75,000 range, but I really have no data, just a guesstimate. I think we have seen much nicer numbers matching cars sold in the mid $80,000 range. So what is the current market for a "lower end" Superbird???
Just wondering

[Beep Beep Dave]

I was thinking the $65k bid was all the money on this one if everything checked out as legit.

Dave

[rob-dirt]

I THINK IT COME DOWN TO SUPPLY AND DEMAND  AND ON PRICE HOW MANY STARTER BIRD ARE OUT THEIR FOR SALE ? I CANT FIND ONE TO BUY  OR TRADE I WAS THINKING 60K BUT IM WRONG AGAIN MABEY ARE NEW MEMBER HORSEPWR426 CAN SHINE SOME LIGHT ON THE BODY NUMBER I WOULD BET ITS REAL

[maxwellwedge]

I was thinking the $65k bid was all the money on this one if everything checked out as legit.

Dave

I agree. For a few 10K's more you can get a car that needs almost nothing....and matches.

[oldchevelle541]

so looking at the current internet ads most are advertised well above $110K. Would everyone suggest the market values are improving or most are just over priced ?

[horsepwr426]

 The Superbird body numbers were all good. When I found the car it had been sitting since 1978 if I remember correctly. It had a 383 magnum when I found it and I can't remember if the transmission was matching. I traded a nice NOM 1970 Road Runner for it. The family that had the car was unaware of it having a 383 as they thought it was a 440. The car has quite a bit of body filler in the right quarter and in the nose cone. The car was in an accident and drove into a ditch bowing the right rear trunk floor area of the car. This will be evident when you look at the vehicle in person and will not show up in a picture. The build sheet was removed by me prior making the trade. The car was complete including 14" rallye wheels. When I traded the car to Le Hodge he sold it to the Gemza's for about $65,000. Remember the market was better 8 or 9 years ago and I believe that was full value for the car. The car is well worth restoring if you can do most of the work yourself. You can buy a matching #'s nice car today in the $100,000 range. I know people have the dream of restoring it some day but most people don't realize a restoration is $50-60,000 or more. I hope this answers a few questions.

[rob-dirt]

The Superbird body numbers were all good. When I found the car it had been sitting since 1978 if I remember correctly. It had a 383 magnum when I found it and I can't remember if the transmission was matching. I traded a nice NOM 1970 Road Runner for it. The family that had the car was unaware of it having a 383 as they thought it was a 440. The car has quite a bit of body filler in the right quarter and in the nose cone. The car was in an accident and drove into a ditch bowing the right rear trunk floor area of the car. This will be evident when you look at the vehicle in person and will not show up in a picture. The build sheet was removed by me prior making the trade. The car was complete including 14" rallye wheels. When I traded the car to Le Hodge he sold it to the Gemza's for about $65,000. Remember the market was better 8 or 9 years ago and I believe that was full value for the car. The car is well worth restoring if you can do most of the work yourself. You can buy a matching #'s nice car today in the $100,000 range. I know people have the dream of restoring it some day but most people don't realize a restoration is $50-60,000 or more. I hope this answers a few questions.

Thanks for your post