68 #'s WIW offered at 35K

[E86/A47]

Everyone pointed out reasons why the Coronet wasn't worth the asking price so I am no longer interested. Moparnation is for some reason upset that I am not buying his friends 68 which I have my own reasons for, mainly it is too far away. So now, I am curious to know if you all think it is worth 35K. (see 2nd page) I would say contact Moparnation if interested.

Hello All,

I realize it's not a charger but wanted to post here to see if the experts have some insight into what it is worth. (I just joined a coronet forum but am waiting on access) I obviously prefer the Charger but it's getting hard to find them at a reasonable price, if you have one or know of one for sale let me know. I prefer 69 but also like 68, prefer an RT, 4 speed, would like something that doesn't need too much work and is ready to drive. 30K is about the most I want to spend.

The ad info and pics for the Coronet are below. These are the factors that might affect the value: NOM, is 440 6 pack which was not an option on the 69 RT coronet, Lemon Twist Yellow was not an available color in 69, non original wheels.

Pics, https://www.flickr.com/photos/pawz4reflection/

1969 DODGE CORONET R/T
  440 SIX PACK - 390+ H.P.

THIS SHOW CAR  HAD A MULTI YEAR RESTORATION .
THE ENGINE & TRANSMISSION -ARE REBUILT .

THIS IS AN ORIGINAL R/T CAR

POWER STEERING
POWER BRAKES
VINYL TOP
LEMON TWIST YELLOW
RAMCHARGER HOOD &
FUNCTIONAL HOOD AIR SCOOPS N96
R/T TACHOMETER
BUCKET SEATS
CONSOLE
BUMBLE BEE STRIPES
AUTOMATIC
VERY RARE HEAD RESTS
POSITRACTION REAR
HEMI SUSPENSION
26" H.D. RADIATOR

IN GALEN GOVIERS REGISTRY #42 of 82
DECODED BY GALEN GOVIER.
PROFESSIONALLY REBUILT WITH A NOM ENGINE & NEW SIX PACK ADDED.
IT WAS TRAILERED TO 3 CAR SHOWS AND WON FIRST PLACE IN ALL.

ALL THE INVOICES , PAPERWORK AND GOVIER REPORTS ARE INCLUDED.
THERE MUST BE OVER 100 DOCUMENTS AND INVOICES.
IT ALSO HAS THE ORIGINAL MANUALS & BROCHURES
FEATURING THE CAR.

I HAVE OVER 50K IN THE CAR.
I AM OPEN TO REALISTIC OFFERS.
IT IS A TURN KEY ALL DONE SHOW CAR.
NEEDS NOTHING.

[Cncguy]

I wouldn't be ashamed to drive that. If it's documentmented matching #s probably 40k high

[E86/A47]

Thanks cncguy! The motor is not original. Any thoughts on how that will effect the value? Asking price is $36,500 but i've negotiated a lower price which I will reveal if I purchase to respect the seller.

[Cncguy]

I would say about a $5000 deduction depending on how close the replacement block is. For example if it's a factory replacement. The value would pobably not be effected. Ideally he would replace with a 69 date coded 440 hp from a Coronet. To keep car as close to factory.

[Troy]

Being realistic...

NOM and incorrect color/Six Pack. At this point the purists have stopped looking so you don't really need to care how these things negatively affect value. Mind boggling that it has all the documentation (including the build sheet) and looks like a "restored" car BUT was still built a different way. Hard to say in this case if the yellow hurt the value over the original F8 green. Also hard to say if keeping the original theme - only part way - hurts or helps. Probably helps a bit just because it's an R/T.

Head rests aren't "rare" in 1969 - they were federally mandated at that point.

At this point the quality of the work is worth more than originality. It looks like a nice car! "Show car" quality (if that's what you're looking for) is hard to come by - and expensive! Nicely done cars can bring in good money even if the pedigree isn't there.

For myself, I prefer "driver" quality non-original cars because I love to drive. It would be hard for me to want to take out a numbers matching, concourse restored car for a 100 mile cruise on the back roads in the summer. A decent base model car with some modern upgrades fits the bill - and the cost is much lower. It's somewhat embarrassing to take to shows though. So what do you want?

The most important thing is that it isn't a Charger. I personally like Coronets but they don't have the fan base nor do they command the same prices. Do you really want to spend your max budget on something that isn't exactly what you want? Could you be happy with a lesser (build quality) car if it said "Charger" on the side? I like the car. I also have a garage full of Chargers so buying it wouldn't hurt my chances of owning what I really wanted. If I had zero Chargers I would probably say "nice car" and move on.

Troy

[Baldwinvette77]

Hey, since its somewhat on topic, What is a fair price/cost for a 69 coronet 2 dr hardtop, 318, minor rust, unrestored, runs, drives etc.. i don't have one, nor know of one, but i would like to get one as a daily  

[E86/A47]

Thanks Troy! Wanna sell me one of your Chargers? 

Are you saying that you think the car looks like a show car quality or that one is hard to come by, i.e. this looks nice but is not show? I would like something I can drive and even though this one may not be show quality, it may be too costly for me to feel comfortable driving it with out worrying non-stop about it getting banged up, scratched or worse.

[moparnation74]

Nice looking Coronet!  I agree with Troy,  I too am a fan of Coronets but the values unfortunately do not follow. 

[tan top]

nice looking coronet 

[ws23rt]

That is a nice looking car.  
Interesting to read comments about values of the coronet vs the charger.  It makes sense that a charger forum would have charger fans.

When I was getting imprinted with what a good car looks like I had a friend who's parents just got a 69 coronet 500 (white with green int.) We were able to play with it in a way his parents would not approve.   I was impressed and soon bought a 69 superbee 4sp.  During this time I was looking to move to a charger because of it's body style but the coronet grew on me and I guess cemented whatever it is about our first cars that does this.

Ten tears later I found my hemi coronet and a few years later my C500.  Forward to today I am looking for space in my garage and the C500 is the one that will go first

So what I wonder is if my friends parents had bought a charger instead of a coronet would I have been moved to buy a charger?  And further would I now be looking to kick the hemi coronet to the curb and keep the C500?

[RJS]

I love 69 Coronet R/T's and looked over all the pictures etc...
I see a higher end driver, certainly a car that's going to get oohs and aahs from people but could never be considered a real contender at a Real Mopar Judged event. The color change to an unavailable color is the first hurt and then non matching engine or engine and trans???
Added 6 pack is fun but never available along with the old school wheels.
It's a fun driver so spend accordingly, my opinion is 25-28K.
Hard to tell in those pictures but get better pictures of the front of the fenders to see if they filled in the seam by the grill area. My guess is that the front of those fenders are made of plastic, just look at the width and shape of them. Also has 68 style DODGE letters on trunk. What other body panels are original???
Ron

[ws23rt]

 ---Now what's not to like about that.

[moparnation74]

I love 69 Coronet R/T's and looked over all the pictures etc...
I see a higher end driver, certainly a car that's going to get oohs and aahs from people but could never be considered a real contender at a Real Mopar Judged event. The color change to an unavailable color is the first hurt and then non matching engine or engine and trans???
Added 6 pack is fun but never available along with the old school wheels.
It's a fun driver so spend accordingly, my opinion is 25-28K.
Hard to tell in those pictures but get better pictures of the front of the fenders to see if they filled in the seam by the grill area. My guess is that the front of those fenders are made of plastic, just look at the width and shape of them. Also has 68 style DODGE letters on trunk. What other body panels are original???
Ron

[moparnation74]

Ron, Beautiful Coronet!  That bird sitting beside it looks SWEET!  ANy chance on posting pics of that beauty!

[E86/A47]

It's a fun driver so spend accordingly, my opinion is 25-28K.

I was thinking 28K would be my top $$ but his bottom line is more.

I added more pics including a fender tag that looks like it's brand new, does that seem off? https://www.flickr.com/photos/pawz4reflection/

get better pictures of the front of the fenders to see if they filled in the seam by the grill area.

Can you show me a pic of the area you are talking about? Plus more pics of your Coronet, looks awesome!

[RJS]

It's a fun driver so spend accordingly, my opinion is 25-28K.

I was thinking 28K would be my top $$ but his bottom line is more.

I added more pics including a fender tag that looks like it's brand new, does that seem off? https://www.flickr.com/photos/pawz4reflection/

get better pictures of the front of the fenders to see if they filled in the seam by the grill area.

Can you show me a pic of the area you are talking about? Plus more pics of your Coronet, looks awesome!

I would think that fender tag looks too good also.
I posted two pictures showing the proper shape of the front fenders and the seam that meets the filler piece on the bottom edge of the hood.
Compare my pictures to his and and you'll see what I'm saying.

[RJS]

Ron, Beautiful Coronet!  That bird sitting beside it looks SWEET!  ANy chance on posting pics of that beauty!

The Bird you speak of was my 72 Satellite Sebring Plus. When I bought it back for the 5th time in my life a previous owner cloned it into a GTX.
Ron

[RJS]

Here's another shot of the Coronet  R/T
Sadly sold it in 2010
Ron

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Miss both of those cars Ron...the Satellite for the 3rd, 4th & 5th time 

[RJS]

Miss both of those cars Ron...the Satellite for the 3rd, 4th & 5th time  

Sorry I've hijacked this thread into the story of my life!!!

Chris we have a new memory maker!!!!
<------

[Challenger340]

Beautiful Coronet R/T.
My guess is $28 to $30K.
It should be more by the apparent high quality of the work performed, irrespective of the non-matching color/engine etc., ?   but unfortunately the popularity of the Coronet Rattle Traps, just ain't the same as their Charger brethren.

[E86/A47]

Thanks everyone. I'm leaning towards passing on this car due to comments here and at the coronet forum. If anyone wants the sellers contact info, let me know.

Can we have 2 "Help ME find my dream car" threads? 

[69CoronetRT]

I would think that fender tag looks too good also.
I posted two pictures showing the proper shape of the front fenders and the seam that meets the filler piece on the bottom edge of the hood.
Compare my pictures to his and and you'll see what I'm saying.

Fender tag is a bad remake.
Wrong shifter knob.
Heater hoses routed wrong. (pet peeve)
N96 hood added. Car codes for standard hood.

Troy, headrests were mandatory on 1/1/69. This car was built before that so they were optional.

[E86/A47]

Fender tag is a bad remake.
Wrong shifter knob.
Heater hoses routed wrong. (pet peeve)
N96 hood added. Car codes for standard hood.

Thanks again! I've been a member here for years but figured I'd better post over at the Coronet forum. Possible rust issues are what scares me most about this car.

[Troy]

I would think that fender tag looks too good also.
I posted two pictures showing the proper shape of the front fenders and the seam that meets the filler piece on the bottom edge of the hood.
Compare my pictures to his and and you'll see what I'm saying.

Fender tag is a bad remake.
Wrong shifter knob.
Heater hoses routed wrong. (pet peeve)
N96 hood added. Car codes for standard hood.

Troy, headrests were mandatory on 1/1/69. This car was built before that so they were optional.

Yeah, I know. I was referring specifically to them being "rare" for a 1969 Coronet (not this car since I hadn't seen the pictures yet). I suppose "rare prior to 1/1/69" would have been accurate.

Troy

[69CoronetRT]

FWIW...window sticker is bogus too.

[moparnation74]

Hello All,

I realize it's not a charger but wanted to post here to see if the experts have some insight into what it is worth. (I just joined a coronet forum but am waiting on access) I obviously prefer the Charger but it's getting hard to find them at a reasonable price, if you have one or know of one for sale let me know. I prefer 69 but also like 68, prefer an RT, 4 speed, would like something that doesn't need too much work and is ready to drive. 30K is about the most I want to spend.

The ad info and pics for the Coronet are below. These are the factors that might affect the value: NOM, is 440 6 pack which was not an option on the 69 RT coronet, Lemon Twist Yellow was not an available color in 69, non original wheels.

Pics, https://www.flickr.com/photos/pawz4reflection/

1969 DODGE CORONET R/T
   440 SIX PACK - 390+ H.P.

THIS SHOW CAR  HAD A MULTI YEAR RESTORATION .
THE ENGINE & TRANSMISSION -ARE REBUILT .

THIS IS AN ORIGINAL R/T CAR

POWER STEERING
POWER BRAKES
VINYL TOP
LEMON TWIST YELLOW
RAMCHARGER HOOD &
FUNCTIONAL HOOD AIR SCOOPS N96
R/T TACHOMETER
BUCKET SEATS
CONSOLE
BUMBLE BEE STRIPES
AUTOMATIC
VERY RARE HEAD RESTS
POSITRACTION REAR
HEMI SUSPENSION
26" H.D. RADIATOR

IN GALEN GOVIERS REGISTRY #42 of 82
DECODED BY GALEN GOVIER.
PROFESSIONALLY REBUILT WITH A NOM ENGINE & NEW SIX PACK ADDED.
IT WAS TRAILERED TO 3 CAR SHOWS AND WON FIRST PLACE IN ALL.

ALL THE INVOICES , PAPERWORK AND GOVIER REPORTS ARE INCLUDED.
THERE MUST BE OVER 100 DOCUMENTS AND INVOICES.
IT ALSO HAS THE ORIGINAL MANUALS & BROCHURES
FEATURING THE CAR.

I HAVE OVER 50K IN THE CAR.
I AM OPEN TO REALISTIC OFFERS.
IT IS A TURN KEY ALL DONE SHOW CAR.
NEEDS NOTHING.

This is a thread of someone searching for a 68/69 charger with little or no work to be done and to enjoy and wants to only spend 30k.  The car he responded to in his email below is a quality 68 charger se 383 AT non ac red ext, white interior, black vinyl top all matching numbers as well with a certified appraisal and purchase price was 35k.  What a waste of everyones time!!

Hey Ray,

I am going to have to pass for now. I cannot get myself to commit to a 35K purchase for something that will just be going into storage for the winter. If you still have it in the spring I may revisit the possibility.

The car looks and sounds awesome! Thanks for sending the pics and videos.

Dave

[E86/A47]

Hey Justin,

Think what you want but I agreed to look at Rays Charger because I wanted to see it after you suggested it, I never promised I would purchase. If it was closer, I would have gone and looked at it in a second. It does look pretty nice, just not sure if 35K is the appropriate # and I didn't want to "waste" anyone's time asking WIW or "low balling" Ray but since you called me out I will provide the pics I was given (heck, maybe someone here will be interested.) I was surprised at the Hagerty Valuation of #2 car $31,300 and #1 (which I highly doubt this one is) of $41,900. You and Ray made it clear that 35K was the price which is one of the reasons I had to bail, maybe for 30K I would have been in.

From the pictures I only saw a couple things that bothered me for a 35K car: the interior seemed a little dirty/worn and the rear valance corners seemed off, the gaps between the corners and the valance seemed mudded over...? Again, I thought it was a pretty darn nice car but was not willing to commit to driving to VA to see it knowing there was no wiggle room on the price.

Videos:

http://youtu.be/CVrsYhU389Q


http://youtu.be/_91_fnIxnno?list=UUJSZn_cgDvPjcMCMwuXGoTg


Pictures, https://www.flickr.com/photos/pawz4reflection/

[moparnation74]

Lol, so Hagerty is the authority on actual car values?  Or insurance values?  Lets be clear on that.  Those are estimates.

You never stated that in your communications to Ray, you were also told the price of 35k and he would not budge, before any pictures were sent!  I also stated from that point if you are still interested at that time I will give you his contact info.  You agreed to that and I relayed it.  So you wasted this mans time out of his day to send pictures and also to have his friend send you a video.  I really do not care whether he sells the car or not.  I am sick and tired of people wasting other peoples valuable time. 

Well, does the certified appraisal refrence those issues?  No.  I have the same pics as well and those issues do not present to me.  What pisses me off is you stated above the car is too nice to buy now and to store for the winter, then you will revisit it in the spring?  What difference does that make?  What you think time will pass and he has to sell it for less?  He is not financially stricken.  Same old thing everyone wants a nice charger but they cannot afford it.

[E86/A47]

You are the one that wasted Rays time by PM'ing me in an effort to help him sell. Because I asked for pictures, does that mean I have to be interested. NO. My reasons are my reasons and it's none of your business why I don't want to buy your friends car.

What pisses me off is you stated above the car is too nice to buy now and to store for the winter

I never said the car was too nice to buy now and store for the winter. Below is exactly what I said:

I am going to have to pass for now. I cannot get myself to commit to a 35K purchase for something that will just be going into storage for the winter. If you still have it in the spring I may revisit the possibility.

The car looks and sounds awesome! Thanks for sending the pics and videos.

Now you are wasting my time so let's call it even. (and how long does it take to send some pics anyways and a couple emails, what is the harm if he actually wants to sell the car which it seems like he has been trying to do for over a year based on info at the videos.) Good luck selling it Ray, I hope you get what you want out of it!

[Challenger340]

just my opinion... but THAT looks to be a VERY Fairly Priced example for what is available in the current market.... an EXTREMELY Nice Charger !!

It would not surprise me if the price gets "seasonally adjusted" by next spring... if it is still around ?

Better that I say no more.

[moparnation74]

just my opinion... but THAT looks to be a VERY Fairly Priced example for what is available in the current market.... an EXTREMELY Nice Charger !!

It would not surprise me if the price gets "seasonally adjusted" by next spring... if it is still around ?

Better that I say no more.

True, Ray told him do not bother me next year unless you have 40K

[E86/A47]

True, Ray told him do not bother me next year unless you have 40K

Not true. Here is his exact quote:

No problem.. Next year price goes up...or I might keep it.

The car may very well be worth every penny of 35K but I decided to pass for numerous reasons. My prerogative.

[moparnation74]

True, Ray told him do not bother me next year unless you have 40K

Not true. Here is his exact quote:

No problem.. Next year price goes up...or I might keep it.

The car may very well be worth every penny of 35K but I decided to pass for numerous reasons. My prerogative.

Well, that is the text I received from him 7:49 cst wed and based on you shaky responses clarifies the truth.  Good luck on your dream.

[Shakey]

[bakerhillpins]

You never stated that in your communications to Ray, you were also told the price of 35k and he would not budge, before any pictures were sent!  I also stated from that point if you are still interested at that time I will give you his contact info.  You agreed to that and I relayed it.  So you wasted this mans time out of his day to send pictures and also to have his friend send you a video.  I really do not care whether he sells the car or not.  I am sick and tired of people wasting other peoples valuable time.  

I don't care who did what to whom, but to be a seller (or his friend as it seems the case is here) and whine about supplying pics to "picture collectors who waste my time" is a LAME argument. GTFU! You are a seller for crying out loud.  

Oh, and the extra lame excuse of, only ask me for pics if your interested in buying the car! Really? WTF do you think I am gonna say? Lets see here.. I'm in the market, maybe it's a good car that I want to buy, maybe not? but I can't tell because I can't see it!!!!!  

If your bud can't deal with the basics of advertising his car or is too lazy to do so then he should probably just stick to local newspaper sales.  

[moparnation74]

I don't care who did what to whom, but to be a seller (or his friend as it seems the case is here) and whine about supplying pics to "picture collectors who waste my time" is a LAME argument. GTFU! You are a seller for crying out loud.  

Oh, and the extra lame excuse of, only ask me for pics if your interested in buying the car! Really? WTF do you think I am gonna say? Lets see here.. I'm in the market, maybe it's a good car that I want to buy, maybe not? but I can't tell because I can't see it!!!!!  

If your bud can't deal with the basics of advertising his car or is too lazy to do so then he should probably just stick to local newspaper sales.  


[/quote]
Baker, since your limited on your knowledge of this.  His original post stated max to spend is 30k.  I knew his car was 35k and will not budge on price period.  So I wanted him to determine if that price was acceptable to move farther.  Anyone, except yourself would do that.  It was not a pawn for images by far.  So you can take your short bus and GTFU comment and place it where the sun does not shine. 

[bakerhillpins]

Baker, since your limited on your knowledge of this.  His original post stated max to spend is 30k.  I knew his car was 35k and will not budge on price period.  So I wanted him to determine if that price was acceptable to move farther.  Anyone, except yourself would do that.  It was not a pawn for images by far.  So you can take your short bus and GTFU comment and place it where the sun does not shine. 

Who cares what E86/A47 said and what price the seller wants, I don't, and it doesn't matter so my limited knowledge of your tiff with him is irrelevant. Point of fact, you/your bud are trying to sell a car so man up and quit whining about wasting your/your bud's time having to send pics to prospective buyers. It's that simple, period.

[moparnation74]

Who cares what E86/A47 said and what price the seller wants, I don't, and it doesn't matter so my limited knowledge of your tiff with him is irrelevant. Point of fact, you/your bud are trying to sell a car so man up and quit whining about wasting your/your bud's time having to send pics to prospective buyers. It's that simple, period.




[/quote]
If you do not care than why did you respond in the first place? My replies on here are facts and professional.  Again, what's with your ignorant comments, "man up, short bus icon, GTFU, whining."  Do you really believe those upset me or disturb my day in a negative way. No.  However, if that makes you feel better, so be it.

[E86/A47]

I have asked for this thread to be deleted but do want to comment once more in relation to this quote

My replies on here are facts and professional.

You made several comments that were not facts and you reviving this thread just to point out that you were mad that I wasted peoples time (in your opinion) was unprofessional. I am in sales and when a customer tells me they are not interested I don't get angry with them and tell them they've wasted my time. The fact is that none of this took much time out of anyone's life (except for time wasted typing in this thread thanks to you) and I agree with baker that as a seller, sending pics (especially for someone many states away) is part of the game.

[moparnation74]

I have asked for this thread to be deleted but do want to comment once more in relation to this quote

My replies on here are facts and professional.

You made several comments that were not facts and you reviving this thread just to point out that you were mad that I wasted peoples time (in your opinion) was unprofessional. I am in sales and when a customer tells me they are not interested I don't get angry with them and tell them they've wasted my time. The fact is that none of this took much time out of anyone's life (except for time wasted typing in this thread thanks to you) and I agree with baker that as a seller, sending pics (especially for someone many states away) is part of the game.

I have a right to speak my opinion and I did, whether you or anyone else here likes that or not.  Wasting time is this thread was your decision to type. 

[TUFCAT]

Sorry, but this is a bit confusing without a program....

assume Justin is Moparnation74 ....  But who's Ray?

....and how did we go from talking about the yellow 1969 Coronet to a red 1968 Charger?

Who owns the Coronet?  .... Who owns the Charger?   Is it the same person?

Damn!  All this good drama and I can't tell who's who or who owns what  

Selling a car is a major PITA that requires a lot of personal attention. Sometimes you get a bite, then lose the fish. It's that simple.  If the owner wants to part company with his car in a less painful fashion.... Roll the dice and send it to auction.  For a handsome fee they'll deal directly with those "assholes and hassles"  - and nobody gets hurt.

I think that's what Baker was saying.  

[Challenger340]

Sorry, but this is a bit confusing without a program....

assume Justin is Moparnation74 ....  But who's Ray?

....and how did we go from talking about the yellow 1969 Coronet to a red 1968 Charger?

Who owns the Coronet?  .... Who owns the Charger?   Is it the same person?

Damn!  All this good drama and I can't tell who's who or who owns what  

Selling a car is a major PITA that requires a lot of personal attention. Sometimes you get a bite, then lose the fish. It's that simple.  If the owner wants to part company with his car in a less painful fashion.... Roll the dice and send it to auction.  For a handsome fee they'll deal directly with those "assholes and hassles"  - and nobody gets hurt.

I think that's what Baker was saying.  

Agreed,
Sellers marketing privately, have to be able to weed out the
Lightweight Classic Car Dreamers trying to punch above their Weight Class(money) that are looking for stoopid Owners wasting everyone's time ?

There are a lot of guys out there that think THEIR Money is "special" somehow ?.... and good luck to them !

IMO,
All they end up doing is pushing the market higher and higher, the exact opposite of what they think their lowballs will achieve(if they offer).
just sayín,
that's why Auctions are sometimes best, set a fair reserve or at least what YOU think is fair, and let's the Village IDGE-YOTS find out how "special" their money actually is ?
or conversely,
how realistic you "fair" reserve price is ? if in fact you are too high ?
Being a Seller is NEVER easy !!