Reward for my VIN, fender tag, and title

[Ghoste]

It happens fairly often on there actually.

[J.Bond]

Wow, cannot believe 8 pages, I personally do not believe Typars has any right to claim any status on said vehicle. Re body or not, I guess there is two sides of the coin here. If you had a car that, was of some value, however was in very rough shape, say well almost gone ie; wing car that came out of forest, a little more than a floor pan. Do you, put it back together or wright it off, wright it off, and the rest of the rest of the herd is now worth a little more. Put it back together is what I would do, only out of respect, it is a piece of our history!!  Ok, so, the question becomes, panels versus Dynamark, I do believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, the original chassis with replacement panels, compared to a body in a box, would somehow be worth more due to the fact, it contains more correct original assembly parts and is original. But if, I decided to go the Dynamark way, and build the new shell with all the parts from the T/A, I have out back sitting in the weeds, owning that car and paying for the new shell. Then sending the old shell to scrap or sell it to the kid down the road because he has to have it. Regardless, who gets their hands on it after the fact, it is what it is. My old shell ,that I owned, that was sold to the wrecker as scrap, or the kid down the road as a parts shell, period... Typar did not coin up the actual money for a hemi car, and knew the car did not have a title, I would imagine he paid an appropriate price for that piece of lawn art, but that's all he's got

I'm sure the sky will rain bags of hammers on this one

[Ghoste]

To be fair, Typars has never indicated he was going to try and force the tags to be given to him.  We should all step back and relax a bit, all the guy said was that he was offering a reward to help find them.  Yes, there was a hint of a friend with federal connections helping find it and a guru who knows something but won't tell.  Beyond that we don't know anything else. 

[J.Bond]

Feds are really only interested in STOLEN cars, this is nothing more than tryng to resurrect a scrapped vehicle. The body shop industry spits car bodies on a regular bassis, there was no crime committed here, execpt for the person who owns that said hemi car now, who may up to this time think they had an original car.

Typars has never indicated he was going to force the tags to given to him

Really, then why is he actually here.......

It is like saying, well, I have a hemi hubcap........ you know where I'm going with that.

From the purist perspective, you have to thank Typars for revealing the truth of the new rebodied car. That is the best part of this club, you can run, but you can't hide, the 6 degrees of separation that this club has, makes it hard for some individuals to scam the general public.

[Dreamcar]

With all this talk about rebodies, I thought we meant using any other original Charger and slapping the hemi VIN on it, not getting a whole new body from Dynacorn.

[moparnation74]

From the purist perspective, you have to thank Typars for revealing the truth of the new rebodied car. That is the best part of this club, you can run, but you can't hide, the 6 degrees of separation that this club has, makes it hard for some individuals to scam the general public.

Without knowing typars, personally.  This thread opens up a lot of doubt and specualtion.  I myself is included in that speculation.  However, Typars may be an honest guy with honest intentions.  Or the latter.  We really do not know.  So unfortunately we pass judgment and we may be in the wrong or the right.
I beleive if he was more forthcoming with information ie: actual car pictures to date, true picture of the ebay ad, mopar guru whom is aware of this car, where this car was rebodied etc.  That in itself would clear up a lot of speculation and doubt.  Although it is his right to relay that or not.

[6bblgt]

Wow, cannot believe 8 pages, I personally do not believe Typars has any right to claim any status on said vehicle. Re body or not, I guess there is two sides of the coin here. If you had a car that, was of some value, however was in very rough shape, say well almost gone ie; wing car that came out of forest, a little more than a floor pan. Do you, put it back together or wright it off, wright it off, and the rest of the rest of the herd is now worth a little more. Put it back together is what I would do, only out of respect, it is a piece of our history!!  Ok, so, the question becomes, panels versus Dynamark, I do believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, the original chassis with replacement panels, compared to a body in a box, would somehow be worth more due to the fact, it contains more correct original assembly parts and is original. But if, I decided to go the Dynamark way, and build the new shell with all the parts from the T/A, I have out back sitting in the weeds, owning that car and paying for the new shell. Then sending the old shell to scrap or sell it to the kid down the road because he has to have it. Regardless, who gets their hands on it after the fact, it is what it is. My old shell ,that I owned, that was sold to the wrecker as scrap, or the kid down the road as a parts shell, period... Typar did not coin up the actual money for a hemi car, and knew the car did not have a title, I would imagine he paid an appropriate price for that piece of lawn art, but that's all he's got

I'm sure the sky will rain bags of hammers on this one

What you suggest is ILLEGAL!!
DYNACORN bodies are legal as kit cars with "assembled/homebuilt" VINs/titles/paperwork.

[TUFCAT]

What you suggest is ILLEGAL!!
DYNACORN bodies are legal as kit cars with "assembled/homebuilt" VINs/titles/paperwork.

In most states its not illegal to remove the vin from a vehicle for purposes of restoration.  These laws differ by state regarding VIN attachment, and some require a verification and inspection process before the VIN gets reattached to the body.

This only applies if somebody actually follows the rules. Most will not....  

Dynacorn bodies are licensed by GM, Ford, and soon to be Chrysler. It makes me wonder if a state will eventually consider the Dynacorn structure part of the restoration?  Its an authentic restoration part, officially licensed and blessed by the original manufacturer so can it simply be considered merely a part amongst other parts (similar to AMD sheet metal licensed by Chrysler, Ford, and GM)?

It's becoming way to simple to use the engine, trans, rear axle, from a donor car, affix the VIN on brand spanking new metal body and call it "restored". How does anybody really know the difference?  Many of us know.... but in states requiring inspection/verification during VIN reattachment, do the they all follow the same procedure 100% of the time...and know what they're looking for?

Dynacorn markets these bodies as "restoration parts".  Obviously they know exactly how their bodies will be used, but side-step the issue with statements like "its up to the consumer to verify state laws regarding vehicle title".  Any rebodied car should be identified as such of the title (similar to salvage titles issued here in Michigan).  It could be as simple as issuing a title with a different color - who knows?


I'm totally against companies remanufacturing important and sacred (for documentation and authenticity purposes) items such as bodies, build sheets, door jamb stickers, fender tags, that are virtually impossible to recognize as reproduction!  This is not done for novelty .. there's nothing "novel" about people getting screwed on fake cars.  

[Dreamcar]

As per the Dynacorn website, they don't make a Charger...looks like original donor bodies/shells is all someone would have to work with.

[TUFCAT]

As per the Dynacorn website, they don't make a Charger...looks like original donor bodies/shells is all someone would have to work with.

The Challenger body is delayed until 2015. The Charger body is unconfirmed but rumored to be in the works.  We might be talking about this soon if a Charger body is on display at SEMA.    

[Dreamcar]

I don't know why, but I've always been on the fence about the complete Dynacorn bodies, even though 50-60% of my car's sheetmeal will be replaced by repro and donor parts. Maybe I'm ok with the parts only because I know the other 50% of my car's shell is original (and it still has its VIN, body numbers, and tag).

Sorry for changing the direction of the thread...the thought just came to mind so I thought I'd share.

[TUFCAT]

We're all going the same direction.... notice how typars is asking for "original" EDIT: not fake documentation to go back with his "original" body.    We'd flame anyone to death who came on here asking "where do I get a fake door jamb sticker, fender tag, and VIN plate made" for my rebodied Hemi Charger.    

[moparnation74]

We're all going the same direction.... notice how typars is asking for "original" documentation to go back with his "original" body.    We'd flame anyone to death who came on here asking "where do I get a fake door jamb sticker, fender tag, and VIN plate made" for my rebodied Hemi Charger.    

LOL.

[Brock Lee]

It has been mentioned before that certain law enforcement agencies actually can tie the VIN to the body/tag numbers.

Troy

That is the road to go down then. If there is such a database, it should be no problem to enter in the body number and get the VIN. The next step would be to search for that VIN in DMV records and see who had it last and if it is currently registered. If nothing else, you would have a firm VIN to be on the lookout for. If it is currently registered, let them do the dirty work.

[Old Moparz]

Did anyone actually read the first post from typars?   

I am the owner of a true 1968 Hemi 4 speed Charger. Several years ago the VIN, fender tag , and title were sold on eBay by someone doing something they should not have done. I have solid proof that my car is the real deal for it still has all the body #s along with the torque boxes and K frame. I am willing to pay $ 1,000.00 US for the return of these items ( NO QUESTIONS ASKED )  The photos are from the eBay ad
  Thanks for your help

If I recall some of the grammar & English I had to take in grade school, "for the return of these items" implies that he wants them back as if he had owned them in the first place. Now if he was offering $1000 for these items then I'd see it differently.

I have a broadcast sheet for a Coronet R/T convertible that was in my Coronet 500. Maybe I should have the FBI track that car down so  it can be returned to me. 

[c00nhunterjoe]

8 pages and no current pictures of the car? 

[Dreamcar]

Imagine you're the unknowing owner of what you think is an original hemi and then you see this thread...OMG I would be upset

[rt green]

cant blame the guy for wanting the original stuff for his car. I hope he finds it myself.

[Challenger340]

Typars has a viable body that can restored... I've seen far worse restored.

The only question remains whose "property" the original VIN, Tags, Etc., belong to ? That's for WHATEVER parties to figure out...
in the meanwhile...
I'll keep an ear to the ground, just because I personally like the right tags etc., back on the right body.

[Ghoste]

X2    (and just say no to Dynacorn)

[HPP]

What you suggest is ILLEGAL!!
DYNACORN bodies are legal as kit cars with "assembled/homebuilt" VINs/titles/paperwork.

In most states its not illegal to remove the vin from a vehicle for purposes of restoration.  These laws differ by state regarding VIN attachment, and some require a verification and inspection process before the VIN gets reattached to the body.

..and in some places, if the transfer of these plates and serial coded tid bits is done in the presence of and with the cooperation of law enforcement, it can legally be called restored.

Such an action does impact the value as those cars that can be demonstrated to be original or have very solid histories always command more money than potential rebodies and extensively restored cars.

[TUFCAT]

To further validate that point.... That's why there's people out there making fake fender tags and broadcast sheets that are virtually undetectable from original.  THERE'S NO REASON FOR THAT AT ALL!   

[ws23rt]

To further validate that point.... That's why there's people out there making fake fender tags and broadcast sheets that are virtually undetectable from original.  THERE'S NO REASON FOR THAT AT ALL!  

Yes their is---and that reason is why it sucks.

[Moparpoolman]

Does anybody feel as though people become a member on DC.com and their first post starts a thread like this one to raise a bunch of eyebrows then disappears.  Makes me wonder if the OP actually has the car he is claiming to own or just wanted to stir up the minds of the Charger community. 

[Charger-Bodie]

Does anybody feel as though people become a member on DC.com and their first post starts a thread like this one to raise a bunch of eyebrows then disappears.  Makes me wonder if the OP actually has the car he is claiming to own or just wanted to stir up the minds of the Charger community. 

Did you read the thread ? He's been back . I do wish he'd would show us some recent pics though.