Reward for my VIN, fender tag, and title

[sdweatherman]

Holey radiator support Batman! They really went crazy with the hole saw to shave off the pounds. 

[DAY CLONA]

A derelict of a car from those photos, by the time your done "restoring" it back to original, if that's the OP's intent, about the only thing "original" will be the tin tags....if there's a nice built rebody out there sportin the tags...let it be.

[familymopar]

A derelict of a car from those photos, by the time your done "restoring" it back to original, if that's the OP's intent, about the only thing "original" will be the tin tags....if there's a nice built rebody out there sportin the tags...let it be.

I disagree.  OP's (presumed) car is rough, no doubt.  And if he/she wants to rebuild it, go for it.  If not, also fine.  But it is likely that somewhere out there is someone with a real J code car that's not a real J code car (and likely they paid for a real J code car), with a false title history and all.  If OP's car is bound for the grave, so be it.  But the car should take its title and vin number to the grave with it.  That's my thought anyway.

[moparnation74]

Personally, to bring that car back to life,  I would have to have the original drivetrain.  It is a very costly resto to not have any of the drivetrain along with basically no parts.

[familymopar]

Personally, to bring that car back to life,  I would have to have the original drivetrain.  It is a very costly resto to not have any of the drivetrain along with basically no parts.

I agree.  For me personally this car is yard art.  But I have seen guys here bring back worse, and I'm glad they do.  The bigger point is, if OP brings this car back, what is the vin?  What is the title history?  Apply for a new vin and title?  Fine, but that is robbing the car of its history.  Even if I were inclined to give this car a second life, i definitely would not consider it without the docs.  And that is besides the fact that I think if OP rebuilds it he stands a fair chance in losing it in a dispute to the title holder.  The vin and title should just not have left this car.  Now it is a dirty mess.

[doctor4766]

I'll be interested to see where this one goes.
Hopefully typars hasn't been scared off, as is often the case when new members join a forum with "controversial" first posts.
 

[familymopar]

I'll be interested to see where this one goes.
Hopefully typars hasn't been scared off, as is often the case when new members join a forum with "controversial" first posts.
 

I hope typars comes back as well.  Not only because my curiosity is peaked but also because I think the resources on this site may serve him/her very well.

[Ghoste]

He hasn't been back in a couple of days so we may well have driven him off.  

[TUFCAT]

Im curious if he has a state issued VIN/title - or none at all?    

[HANDM]

This thread rhymes with the 70 Charger 440 6 pack with AC thread......... 

[familymopar]

This thread rhymes with the 70 Charger 440 6 pack with AC thread......... 

It is reminiscent.

[familymopar]

He hasn't been back in a couple of days so we may well have driven him off. 

I hope not.

Im curious if it has a state issued VIN/title - or none at all? 

I think the implication, or my assumption anyway, was none at all. 

[TUFCAT]

I think the implication, or my assumption anyway, was none at all.  

I hate to be a jerk, but it can never be legally driven on a public road...then yes, he has LAWN ART.

[familymopar]

I think the implication, or my assumption anyway, was none at all. 

I hate to be a jerk, but he can never be legally driven on a public road...then yes, he has LAWN ART.

Well, it appears that typars purchased it as an old race car with no title or vin, so I had assumed that he/she wanted to maybe build it up to race when it was purchased.  That can still be done.  Hell of a project, but if that is what it was purchased for, then typars is right where he started. 

[RiverRaider]

Hello All,
I have been following this thread and unless I am missing something or someone knows more than I read this is rough place to ask questions. As I do not know Typars I may be wrong, but I think Typars is only doing the same thing anyone of us would do if we had a hemi race car missing tags. Trying to find them to be able to complete the car. I also think he just wants to cover his A$$.  If he puts any money into this car to rebuild it as a vintage racer he will forever run the risk of having some guy come up to him carrying an envelope with title, tags and the sheriff at his side ready to take the car.  Now days you can not count on what the courts may do.  Just my take on it.
RiverRaider       

I think the implication, or my assumption anyway, was none at all. 

I hate to be a jerk, but he can never be legally driven on a public road...then yes, he has LAWN ART.

Well, it appears that typars purchased it as an old race car with no title or vin, so I had assumed that he/she wanted to maybe build it up to race when it was purchased.  That can still be done.  Hell of a project, but if that is what it was purchased for, then typars is right where he started. 

[moparnation74]

Hello All,
I have been following this thread and unless I am missing something or someone knows more than I read this is rough place to ask questions. As I do not know Typars I may be wrong, but I think Typars is only doing the same thing anyone of us would do if we had a hemi race car missing tags. Trying to find them to be able to complete the car. I also think he just wants to cover his A$$.  If he puts any money into this car to rebuild it as a vintage racer he will forever run the risk of having some guy come up to him carrying an envelope with title, tags and the sheriff at his side ready to take the car.  Now days you can not count on what the courts may do.  Just my take on it.
RiverRaider 

I have been a member here for roughly a year now.  I have also been a member on numerous forums.  This by far is the best forum I have been a member of and a great place to ask questions.  Especially, with the wealth of experience and knowledge of the member base here.

Do not let one topic steer you from the true nature of this forum.

I will never purchase or consider a car that is missing the items making it legit/legal.  For anyone who does then you assume all risk, no questions. 
     

[Ghoste]

Its not a rough a place to ask.  This topic got a little sideways but overall this is a comparatively laid back site so never be worried to ask anything.

[typars]

Hello All  I'm Back.
    I never intended to return due to over speculation and slander of my character but now I see some of you actually get where I'm coming from.
  RiverRaider hit the nail on the head. I would love to see the car go back to the street / racecar it has been most of its life. Day 2 cars rock and you can actually drive them instead of letting the sit in some climate controlled vault where no one will ever get to enjoy them. After the car had sat for years in storage I was made an offer for the car that was the same $$$ that I had in it. This would have taken the car out of the country ( not good ) but I thought before I sold it I would try to find out about its race history. Looking in to this I found out that it never did have a rich and glorious history on the track but mad quite a ruckus on the St. race scene. More phone calls led me to not only the person that gave it its black & gold paint but also to one of the 2 people that turned it into a racecar. Unfortunately the other person died early in life. Wile talking with the one person he informed me that he had been sitting on all of the parts that they had removed back when the car took the shape that you see it today. He then told me that the only way he would ever get rid of them is if they went right back on the car they came off of. Looks like all I am missing is the hood and the passenger door of the original sheet metal. The Photos that got posted of Wildfire are of my car long before I got it I think. What happened to it after these photos I have no Idea. Help is what I was and am looking for. If all you are looking to do is come up with some kind of weird conspiracy theory or name call just leave it alone.  Thank You

[Ghoste]

Glad you're back. 

[polywideblock]

x2    remember opinions are like "A holes" EVERYBODY has one   ,think water off a ducks back   

[Charger-Bodie]

Glad you came back! Best of luck to you in your efforts.

[familymopar]

Glad you're back typars!  We will all keep an eye out for that tag.  It would be terrific to reunite the tag and the car!  What are your plans for the car?

[tan top]

   Good to see your   back !!    (( Typars ))      

 we will all keep our eyes peeled , & for any black with gold 68 j code chargers !!  & post here or send a PM   ,

sorry if this might be a silly question , but have you tried contacting Galen Govier , normally he takes years to answer , unless its a aero  or a J or R  or V code or convertible  mopar .

could email Barry , of Hamtramck historical too  



http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/index.shtml


http://www.gvgovier.com/

[A12 Superbee]

If all the parts off the car were kept to one day go back on the car, how did all the tags come to be sold on Ebay along with the title? Did someone steal them? Surely if they were stolen you would have a much better chance of recovery and turning your car back into what it was?
You said "someone did something they should not have done" when they sold the tags and title, what did you mean by that? They did something criminal or they did something 'stupid'?

[typars]

From what I gather the car was traded for another hot rod and at the time still had a dash so it should of still had the vin on it. Still not certain the tags got sold alone on eBay or with the car. all I have is a photo of the items from an eBay auction. Tags should have never left the car is all I'm saying.
  Thanks for the help guys