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Hood pins

Started by six-tee-nine, August 28, 2014, 01:40:31 PM

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six-tee-nine

I know some guys dont like them, but I'm adding them to my 69

Now, they are available as kinda Multi purpose and therefor the cable length varies from say 22" up to 25".
Anyone here who has hood pins care to tell me what set they bought or better what cable lengt did you get?
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


BananaDan

You can get them from the typical vendors like Herb's, Dante's and MegaParts.  I don't know the lengths off the top of my head, but different model cars and even different year Chargers used certain lengths.  There will be a specific length for a 69 Charger.  The vendors probably know.
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Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: six-tee-nine on August 28, 2014, 01:40:31 PM
I know some guys dont like them, but I'm adding them to my 69

Now, they are available as kinda Multi purpose and therefor the cable length varies from say 22" up to 25".
Anyone here who has hood pins care to tell me what set they bought or better what cable lengt did you get?
Speaking to the original owner of this car originally coded with the J45 Hood Pins, he stated the originals measured 18" in length.  The car is being restored now & he said he went with the 22" ones due to the fact that the 18" would rub the paint off the hood.

See this topic for pictures of the locations of the pins & cables on an unrestored car...the hole diameter is also 1"

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,75726.0.html

PS be sure to keep us updated on the progress...Ill be watching closely ;)
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


ODZKing

My bulge hood for my 73 has the holes for pins.
I got these. http://www.dalescudashop.com/sthopinkit1.html

six-tee-nine

Thx for the replies,

I did looked a MegaParts' website, but they dont specify a length for a Charger in particular. Most of the descriptions stick to "some B body's"
I know you can Always modify the cables but I'd rather buy the right ones the first time.

As time goed by pictures will come in my resto thread....but I like to drill the holes and do the fitting stuff before paint.
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


pmike

I did get a set for my '73 from ebay seller demonized666, price was competitive and they look nice but I have not installed them yet. I have seen positive comments about his stuff on forums, however. (edit; btw, they had same looking paper envelope marked with "S" as in the dalescudashop link!)



As the hole on the bezels is only a little larger than the pins, I guess I am fine drilling the hood for same diameter, or is there a reason it should be as large as an inch?


68Charger4me

Personally I don't use the cables, they always rubbed the paint flappin in the wind up there.

ACUDANUT

Quote from: 68Charger4me on August 28, 2014, 04:45:43 PM
Personally I don't use the cables, they always rubbed the paint flappin in the wind up there.

Me too !. BTW what is the correct location of these ? Any pic's ?

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: ACUDANUT on August 28, 2014, 04:53:30 PM
Quote from: 68Charger4me on August 28, 2014, 04:45:43 PM
Personally I don't use the cables, they always rubbed the paint flappin in the wind up there.

Me too !. BTW what is the correct location of these ? Any pic's ?

See the link I posted above...............
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


1974dodgecharger

They are great for display! For everyday driver it will scrape yo paint on highway....

BananaDan

Call Mega Parts. Jaime should be able to hook you up.
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ACUDANUT

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on August 28, 2014, 05:00:57 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on August 28, 2014, 04:53:30 PM
Quote from: 68Charger4me on August 28, 2014, 04:45:43 PM
Personally I don't use the cables, they always rubbed the paint flappin in the wind up there.

Me too !. BTW what is the correct location of these ? Any pic's ?

See the link I posted above...............

:2thumbs:

BROCK

My first 70 Charger had the Factory hoodpins.  As my then g'friend totaled
it & I had not let it go before buying my current 70 Charger, I transplanted
them, along with every missing screw etc onto the new one.  What I did to
get the holes drilled properly into the hood may be of interest.  After adding
the pins in the correct location I lowered the hood slowly until it rested on
the pins.  Then I lifted the hood 2" & dropped it. I repeated that from 2"
higher with each successive drop until there was a noticeable dimple on both
sides!  Perfect center for drilling the holes!!  The reason for a 1" hole is easy: 
the hood raises in an arc - but the pins are straight.

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Mike DC

 :Twocents:

I have never understood why standard procedure is to fasten the pin cables to the car rather than the hood itself.  There's no need to have 2-foot cables flying around just to keep the pins from getting lost.  If the pins come out then the hood is still gonna fly up either way.


Patronus

I don't run the cables either. But it was nice getting rid of that head-bonking latch assembly... Check out some of other high-quality vendors' pins like Hotchkis,RingBros, or the new ones from Mopar!
'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

Ghoste

I'm only guessing but could the cables (as the pins of course) just be there to emulate actual race vehicles?  In which case the cables are there for pit side part removal to ensure the pin doesn't get lost and stays with the car not the part.

six-tee-nine

 About the latch: I have no intention of removing the factory latch.
I like to add the pins for just the looks.
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


ACUDANUT

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on August 29, 2014, 11:46:21 AM
:Twocents:

I have never understood why standard procedure is to fasten the pin cables to the car rather than the hood itself.  There's no need to have 2-foot cables flying around just to keep the pins from getting lost.  If the pins come out then the hood is still gonna fly up either way.



I AGREE  :cheers:

Indygenerallee

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321461153940?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT 

I bought three sets of these since I needed 3 hood pins and 2 trunk pins
good price and I got them in just two days.
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

ACUDANUT

The reason for a 1" hole is easy:  
the hood raises in an arc - but the pins are straight


INDY:
Those holes look way too small.  :Twocents:

Indygenerallee

They look like any other hood pins I have ever had on any Charger, granted they are not factory correct but the pin style was what was ran on a Daytona race car.
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

ODZKing

Keep in mind, those are the inexpensive flat aluminum bezels that sit flush on the hood. Water gets under and the often rust.
The better ones are a little more but have a gasket like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-1974-Dodge-Charger-B-Body-Hood-Pin-Bezels-Gaskets-Kit-New-MoPar-/371114746545?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item566829a2b1&vxp=mtr

Indygenerallee

ODZking, yeah I knew that I have always made gaskets for them with the cheaper ones.
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: Ghoste on August 30, 2014, 08:09:46 AM
I'm only guessing but could the cables (as the pins of course) just be there to emulate actual race vehicles?  In which case the cables are there for pit side part removal to ensure the pin doesn't get lost and stays with the car not the part.

Most of the racers we run with dont use cables. They either run zeus fasteners or the snap lock hood pins.

Mike DC

QuoteAbout the latch: I have no intention of removing the factory latch.
I like to add the pins for just the looks.


If that's really all you are after then why drill holes in your hood?  You could just make a set of hood pins into "dummys" glued to the hood skin on top.  


In fact, does someone already sell dummy hood pins?  It seems like something that might exist.  


Indygenerallee

QuoteIf that's really all you are after then why drill holes in your hood?  You could just make a set of hood pins into "dummys" glued to the hood skin on top. 

That is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard of....   ::) :slap:
Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.

Mike DC

Hey, if that's all he is after  . .


The car's next owner may appreciate the lack of holes drilled.  

Dino

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on August 30, 2014, 09:39:02 PM

Hey, if that's all he is after  . .


The car's next owner may appreciate the lack of holes drilled. 

 

I know I would.   :yesnod:
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Indygenerallee

Sold my Charger unfortunately....never got it finished.


ODZKing


ACUDANUT

No one is going to steal his Hemi, with that much tape.

Wicked72



I'll see that, and raise you a level...

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Ghoste

No photos but I did have a Citation once in which the bracing came loose from the hood panel and sent it flying open.  It creased the hood so in order to hold it closed I drilled a couple of holes near the front and used wire through the holes and grille.  We laughingly called them Lada hood pins. :shruggy:
Its about the same level as tape.


ws23rt

My opinion on the hood pins has changed as I have over time.

My first new car was a 69 orange super bee. 383 4sp, hood scoops and hood pins.  I didn't order the car so it wasn't something checked off on an option sheet.
I was 19 and liked the added glitz of the hood pins and was well aware that they were just that---glitz-- :lol:

It's a matter of taste but today I would not add them to a car that didn't come with them. I like the factory original side of the hobby.

Back in the day for some the hood pin idea became a security addition and pad locks were used to help prevent pilfering of shiny things under the hood.

That must have been the case for my 69 hemi coronet.  There were two holes in the hood for pins (in the wrong place) and evidence of where the pins were located.  :eek2: It took a lot of patient effort to repair the holes in the hood.

Along a similar line while collecting parts over the years for my coronet I got some top fender mounted turn signal lights from a donor 69 rt but decided not to add them to my car because I didn't want to upset the balance of original mopar nature.  Even in those days (early eighties) original cars were the tops and hard to find. :Twocents:

six-tee-nine

I hear you, but this will definatly be a work of a lifetime to bring this car back so I dont even want to think about selling it. However, IF I ever sell the car then the holes in the hood are the buyers problem.
I made up my mind, I will add a set of functional hood pins.
Keeping or removing the factory latch is something I need to look closer at when I'm at that point of the resto.

I appreciate the gasket tip as rust prvention  :2thumbs:
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


Ghoste

I can't see the holes being a dealbreaker for 98% of the people out there if you ever did have to sell it anyway.  (and I'd leave the factory latch on there too)

Dino

Right, it would be a tiny amount of hassle to have holes in the hood, but not a deal breaker no.  Not at all.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Patronus

I prefer a nice new step drill bit..and don't push too hard
'73 Cuda 340 5spd RMS
'69 Charger 383 "Luci"
'08 CRF 450r
'12.5 450SX FE

six-tee-nine

Quote from: Patronus on September 01, 2014, 05:17:37 PM
I prefer a nice new step drill bit..and don't push too hard

Thats the plan I'm buying a new sharp one for these holes.
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...