Those ground straps from the chassis to the pavement question

[Ghoste]

They used to be common but not so much now, the ground straps that people put from the chassis and they drag on the pavement, for radio reception I believe, would these things not be a great conductor during a thunderstorm?

[twodko]

They're making a come back, I see them at car shows now. I've asked a couple guys why they
put them on their cars. They showed a me cool little thing that kinda looks like a light saber.
They said they used it zap Pious owners, unfortunately it's range is limited to about 15'. Even
so they're perfect for nailing the self righteous at stop signs.   

[Ghoste]

Hmm, now that might be worth it.

[green69rt]

They used to be common but not so much now, the ground straps that people put from the chassis and they drag on the pavement, for radio reception I believe, would these things not be a great conductor during a thunderstorm?

Long time since I heard about them.   The only thing I can remember is that they were for grounding the car to get rid of static charges from the tires and other sources.   I'm really reaching here but I remember something about the old tires, because they were natural rubber, they insulated the car from ground.   New tires are synthetic and bleed off charges to the ground so the straps aren't required anymore.  Probably something I'm missing in this explanation but it's all I have..

[TUFCAT]

They were popular in the early 70's... as a kid I thought they looked stupid.  Only old timers had them back then and usually on a 4-door Buick LeSabre. 

[tan top]

   remember seeing them too , in the 70s when I was a kid  
, never under stood how they worked , or how could they have worked ,ok when stuck in traffic or parked !!  but  faster you go ! the air lifts them up off the road ,  no longer grounding the car un less all the ones I saw weren't fitted correctly

[polywideblock]

over here  we called them "static straps"   

worked to release static build up and stop that nasty shock as you got out of or walked up to and touched the door handle  when driving  on those hot dry dusty  days   

[TUFCAT]

I even seen them with red reflectors riveted on the straps - those were really ugly! 

[JB400]

  First time hearing of these 

[polywideblock]

you can even still get them          http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SCA-Anti-Static-Strap-/221417252427

                                                 

[Ghoste]

  Only old timers had them back then and usually on a 4-door Buick LeSabre. 

Which is funny because I saw them on a late model Buick. 

[ODZKing]

They used to be common but not so much now, the ground straps that people put from the chassis and they drag on the pavement, for radio reception I believe, would these things not be a great conductor during a thunderstorm?

Do you stay up nights thinking about stuff like this?   

[HPP]

I've only ever seen them on low riders. I figured it was to discharge the static fromsliding across the crushed velvet seat with wool pants.

A savvy guy would market them to kids today saying it discharged cell phone static while fueling, thus preventing gas station fires.

[70 sublime]

I still see them around here (maybe once a week )

I always thought they were for static discharge but to help with car sickness (not the Dodge sickness we all have but the kind where you puke all over everything)
I never used them but my daughter always got car sick and was thinking about trying a set

[TUFCAT]

Thinking about this further ....wouldn't dragging rubber around for miles actually "create" static?    Help me understand how it could actually "discharge" static.

[Indygenerallee]

I know of at least 10 trucks in my town that have those hanging down off the back.

[Ghoste]

They used to be common but not so much now, the ground straps that people put from the chassis and they drag on the pavement, for radio reception I believe, would these things not be a great conductor during a thunderstorm?

Do you stay up nights thinking about stuff like this?   

No it mostly happens when I'm driving around.  So far no suggestions on the lightning strike part.

[ws23rt]

Thinking about this further ....wouldn't dragging rubber around for miles actually "create" static?    Help me understand how it could actually "discharge" static.

My understanding is the straps that do what they are intended for have a copper mesh in them to drain static charge.  

As to where the charge comes from?  This is also an old memory----geez aren't they all these days ---   Trucks with many tires that scrub the ground more than cars do tend to wipe off electrons at a higher rate than cars do thus making a bigger static charge.

If some folks are now starting to use them on cars it may be for piece of mind.  With all the electronic gizmos we have it's conceivable  they could be zapped into the zone---the sixties for example ----

I await the rest of the story from the geeks.

[Todd Wilson]

I think their main use was to help with radio reception on vehicles back in the day. With todays vehicles I would say its pointless to do it unless you have a big HF ham radio system or something like that and then its not really needed.


With all the old points ignitions and voltage regulators and so forth it might have helped with radio reception back in the day. Lots of trucks had them to keep things grounded. Especially tanker trucks. This day and age there are ground spots they attach to in a lot of facilities but I have seen some tanker trucks still have the ground hanging down.


Todd

[8WHEELER]

Most of them I have seen over 30 years, were on police cars, look at the electronics in those cars   

Dan

[GreenMachine]

   From my understanding, it was before steel belted tires. The static couldn't jump the few inches of the sidewall from the wheel to the ground. With steel belted tires the static can easily jump the fraction of an inch to ground.

[Ghoste]

Funny thing is, I never got a static shock from an old car ever, its only been cars built within the last decade that bite me when I get out.

[TUFCAT]

   From my understanding, it was before steel belted tires. The static couldn't jump the few inches of the sidewall from the wheel to the ground. With steel belted tires the static can easily jump the fraction of an inch to ground.

That makes the most sense to me. 

[70 sublime]

Saw one on a Dodge 1/2 ton today

[HPP]

It wasn't static on the ground, it was the build up of static caused by friction of the body going through the air. Aircraft have a similar problem and they deal with it via a rod, typically at the tail, to concentrate the charge and allow it to disperse.

Yes, these straps typically have a copper strand in them, or some conductive material woven into the structure, not unlike an ESD strap used in electronics assembly.

[polywideblock]

It wasn't static on the ground, it was the build up of static caused by friction of the body going through the air   

[ACUDANUT]

They used to be common but not so much now, the ground straps that people put from the chassis and they drag on the pavement, for radio reception I believe, would these things not be a great conductor during a thunderstorm?

Do you stay up nights thinking about stuff like this?   

Yes he does unfortunately. 

[Ghoste]

No one was forced to read it. 

[Bob T]

Fairly regularly I've had to use cherry pickers or scissor lift platforms for work. Most of them don't have static discharge straps installed but I always make one and put it on if we are working inside a building that has a painted floor like a newspaper printing press hall.
The nylon composite wheels' charge builds up after a short time driving the machine and the first piece of earthed steelwork you touch against generates a loud crack and usually a blue spark when the charge dissipates between the operator cage and a roof truss or support beam. It hurts like hell if its you grabbing a light fitting or similar too and become the first bond point.
I used to get the apprentices to grab the chain but they wised up.