68/69 6 Pack Hoods

[familymopar]

Looks like AAR is now producing glass 6 pack hoods for 68 and 69 chargers.  I know a lot of guys have been asking, here they are.

https://www.aarqualityfiberglass.com/products/hood-charger-1968-1969-six-pack-bolt

Bolt on $625 and lift off $525

[bakerhillpins]

Interesting, looks like they take a metal hood and mate in the fiberglass center section. When I read the ad I figured it was all glass.   

[myk]

What a great idea.  I've always wanted the option of having this type of a hood on the car.  I have to wonder about the finished product, though...

[bakerhillpins]

What a great idea.  I've always wanted the option of having this type of a hood on the car.  I have to wonder about the finished product, though...

Why? Because of the dis-similar materials expanding and contracting at different rates?

[familymopar]

I don't know why part of the underside is left without gel coat, but I am pretty sure the entire thing is glass.

[Dino]

Special attention is needed when prepping and painting a piece like that, but when done right it'll outlast the rest of the car.  Still butt ugly though.   

[wingcar]

They are all fiberglass....

[myk]

What a great idea.  I've always wanted the option of having this type of a hood on the car.  I have to wonder about the finished product, though...

Why? Because of the dis-similar materials expanding and contracting at different rates?

The pictured product appears very raw, unfinished.  I'm used to seeing aftermarket hoods in a nice, even, gelcoat finish...

[A12 Superbee]

Special attention is needed when prepping and painting a piece like that, but when done right it'll outlast the rest of the car.  Still butt ugly though.   

I agree. The Charger hoods are a beautiful thing, great lines, really suit the car. Whacking a six pack hood on it just spoils the look, it just doesn't look 'right'. Leave the 6 pack hoods for the cars that they belong on.

As for the quality of finish, the underside of factory glass hoods is quite poor (well in 69.5 they were), they are rough and look like they were pumped out fast (as they actually were). I have seen a modern AAR glass hood on a 69 Superbee and they are a nicely made item, look very neat and tidy underneath.

Last thing I would do if I owned a Charger would be to put a six pack hood on it, but what would I know, I'm in the wrong forum!

[familymopar]

I like the look of a 6 pack hood on a 2nd gen charger.  I know, I know, it is not correct and was not even an option.  I still like the way they look, and the original will always be hanging in the garage.

I had one on my last 68, had to have it made as they were not in production then.  It was considerably rougher than these AAR's look.  Just takes some smoothing out.

I'm on the fence about getting one for this charger, but I may and just have it as an option, switch them out as I please.

[myk]

I like the look of a 6 pack hood on a 2nd gen charger.  I know, I know, it is not correct and was not even an option.  I still like the way they look, and the original will always be hanging in the garage.

I had one on my last 68, had to have it made as they were not in production then.  It was considerably rougher than these AAR's look.  Just takes some smoothing out.

I'm on the fence about getting one for this charger, but I may and just have it as an option, switch them out as I please.

That's exactly what I would do.  Take a look at the Blade '68 Charger and you can see just how good that hood looks on a '2nd Gen....

[Chris 69]

I'm in the group that doesn't care for a hood scoop on a second gen, to me the scoop just conflicts with the scallops going the other direction (down), and the center ridge.

Just thinking out loud, if someone made a six-pack hood for a second gen without the scallops and center ridge, more of a flat or very slight upward arc hood, I think the scoop would fit the lines better. It would be interesting to see a photoshop of it...

[myk]

Agreed.  The scoop on top of the scallops makes it look like a tacked on, after-thought piece (which it is anyway).  I would still rock it though...

[six-tee-nine]

I'm in the group that doesn't care for a hood scoop on a second gen, to me the scoop just conflicts with the scallops going the other direction (down), and the center ridge.

+1

[LUMI]

i dont like 6 pack scoops either on Chargers
but in my case it was the only way to get the carb fit

[Ghoste]

I don't like scoops on 2nd gens either, they clash with the scallops in a big way.  I did see a 69 drag car once where the guy had made a custom version of the early 70 Mopar Pro Stock style scoop and I didn't think it looked too bad.  Scoop was basically the same but scaled down just enough to fit between the scallops.
It could be worse, you could want one of those giant Chevy cowl induction scoops that were all the rage in the 90's.

[wingcar]

i dont like 6 pack scoops either on Chargers
but in my case it was the only way to get the carb fit

Yours is more like a 24 pack...........................

[Dino]

How about a smooth hood to start with?  Get rid of the scallops.  That may seem sacrilege but it's the only way to make it look really good with a scoop.

[Ghoste]

It is, although you lose one of the chief styling elements IMO.  There are people who grafted the 71 style trapdoor into the 2nd gen hood and it looked good.

[bill440rt]

Doesn't do much for me either, personally.
However... I have seen a '70-style RR Air Grabber mated to a '70 hood that looked awesome!    Makes me wonder why it was never available as an optional hood, I could only suppose tooling costs.

[wingcar]

Like this.........

[bill440rt]

Like this.........

Yep.
The one I saw was on a black '70, though. It seemed to fit the lines of the '70 nose better for some reason.

[Ghoste]

Thats it.  I still miss the scallops but that hood doesn't look horrible either.

[familymopar]

I agree that the scallops make the 6 pack hood look odd.  A flat hood would be much better for a scoop.

Like this.........

Did you custom fab that hood or is there some flat hood that fits a 69 that I am unaware of?  I think the air grabber looks very cool.

[familymopar]

Agreed.  The scoop on top of the scallops makes it look like a tacked on, after-thought piece (which it is anyway).  I would still rock it though...

myk, tried to pm you but your box is full, just fyi.

[timmycharger]

Wish that existed 12 years ago when I bought mine, I bought both the hood and scoop from AAR, quality was pretty good, my body guy at the time did a great job grafting them together. For now, the hood will be wall art for me or when I bored of the steel hood again. I will have to get a stock air filter for my six pack set up as with the glass hood I was running a huge K & N one.   I dont think it looks all that bad with the hood though. 

[bakerhillpins]

Like this.........

Did you custom fab that hood or is there some flat hood that fits a 69 that I am unaware of?  I think the air grabber looks very cool.

The yellow 69 with the Air Grabber setup was on Craigslist out of CT earlier this year or last, at least that is where that image came from. I don't believe it is/was wingcar's ride.

[bakerhillpins]

I dont think it looks all that bad with the hood though.  

Neither do I, in fact I even like the cuda hood on the Charger.    

[keepat]

Has anybody ever seen the hood scallops on a stock 2 gen opened into functional heat extractors?
If so any pictures.
Thanks
Pat

[timmycharger]

I dont think it looks all that bad with the hood though.  

Neither do I, in fact I even like the cuda hood on the Charger.    

  Never saw that hood treatment on a second gen Charger, I kinda like it..

[wingcar]

Here's a guy that had a "different" idea for making the hood scallops functional......

[timmycharger]

Here's a guy that had a "different" idea for making the hood scallops functional......

Mind = Blown

[wingcar]

The yellow 69 with the Air Grabber setup was on Craigslist out of CT earlier this year or last, at least that is where that image came from. I don't believe it is/was wingcar's ride.
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You are correct.....Not mine, I just saved the picture along with a lot of others showing different hood scoops on second generation Chargers

[Lighthorseman]

Here's a guy that had a "different" idea for making the hood scallops functional......

Dare I say it, but that actually looks pretty cool.  Are there any finished pictures of this one floating about - or was it set on fire by purists before being finished?   

[Ghoste]

Hopefully the latter. 

[alenglish]

Timmy  I did the same thing 8 years age.  I like the look for now and still have my steel hood  put away. Heres mine..


BigAlSr

[timmycharger]

Timmy  I did the same thing 8 years age.  I like the look for now and still have my steel hood  put away. Heres mine..


BigAlSr

Looks mean! I was hell bent on having functional hood turn signal indicators that I cut too big of holes in the supporting web and ended up cracking the inside of it. Had to add two more pins closer to the middle/front. Ill be glassing that back solid again when I use it some day.

[BrianShaughnessy]

I've had the 6 pack hood on Black Betty for like 11 years now...  got tired of people asking where they could get one like it ( FYI.  The guy disappeared off the face of the earth  ) .

Do what you like and don't take any poop.   

[Dino]

I've had the 6 pack hood on Black Betty for like 11 years now...  got tired of people asking where they could get one like it ( FYI.  The guy disappeared off the face of the earth   ) .

Do what you like and don't take any poop.  

Brian do you have any more pictures?  I don't think I've ever seen a scoop on these cars that actually looked like it belonged, but I may have to swallow those words now.

[familymopar]

Ok guys, I am considering picking up one of these hoods as a secondary.  My question would be about the pins.  I am guessing Brian's hood is steel with a scoop melded in since I don't see any pins.  And you 69 guys I *think* have a different hood bumper bracket.  So I guess Timmycharger is the best to answer this question but all advice is appreciated.

My question is really where/how to pin a 68 hood.  Keeping in mind that I strongly prefer (and it may be a deal breaker) to not put holes where holes don't belong.

Take a look at the pics below.  The red on the top is a 69 with factory pin option.  The pins mount through a bolt hole on the hood bumper bracket. 

(I grabbed this photo from this thread: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,75726.0.html and the photo was posted by Just 6T9 CHGR, I hope it is not some breech of forum etiquette to grab it and use it here.)

The next pic, in yellow, is my 68 hood bumper mount bracket.  No extra bolts.  No extra holes.  Smaller mount plate.

So would you pull the bumper screw and put the pin through that hole with a bumper around the base of the pin?  I am not positive but I suspect this method would cause you to have to drill out that hole a bit.  Or put the pin somewhere else?

I would really like to have the glass / 6 pack / hood pin option but don't know where or whether I am willing to drill big holes.

Any suggestions or pics of how y'all did it would be greatly appreciated.

[familymopar]

Or alenglish, just realized yours was a 68 as well.

[JB400]

If it was me, I'd remove the hood bumper, mount your hood pin there, and cut a piece of hose and slip it over the hood pin to set the height of the hood.  No extra holes.  Local stock car guys do it all the time.

[familymopar]

If it was me, I'd remove the hood bumper, mount your hood pin there, and cut a piece of hose and slip it over the hood pin to set the height of the hood.  No extra holes.  Local stock car guys do it all the time.

I think that would definitely be the preferred route except that I believe I will have to drill out the bumpstop mounting screw hole quite a bit, rendering a return to a non-pin normal set up difficult, unless of course I could find a larger mounting screw that would both fit through the bumpstop and fit the drilled out hoodpin hole.  Maybe that is the answer.  Not sure.

Would still like to see some pics of how and where others mounted the pins.

[timmycharger]

If it was me, I'd remove the hood bumper, mount your hood pin there, and cut a piece of hose and slip it over the hood pin to set the height of the hood.  No extra holes.  Local stock car guys do it all the time.

I think that would definitely be the preferred route except that I believe I will have to drill out the bumpstop mounting screw hole quite a bit, rendering a return to a non-pin normal set up difficult, unless of course I could find a larger mounting screw that would both fit through the bumpstop and fit the drilled out hoodpin hole.  Maybe that is the answer.  Not sure.

Would still like to see some pics of how and where others mounted the pins.

I wish I had taken pictures of the hood pin system I used. I ended up removing the bumpstop, drilling out the hole and mounting the pins in there. After the restoration, I left the holes drilled out and plan on figuring out something to get the bump stops back in there, but I want the capability of putting the pins back in when I put the six pack hood back on.  I think the bump stops just screwed in before, I think I can fab something that doesnt look too hacked when I get to that point.  Because I cut giant holes for the turn signals, I put pins in the front too, screwed right to the black panel that has the hood spring on it, but dont plan on doing that again as Im patching the 6 pack hood.

[BrianShaughnessy]

  I am guessing Brian's hood is steel with a scoop melded in since I don't see any pins. 

No.   It's a one off bolt on fiberglass hood made from a mold of a steel hood with a scoop molded onto it.    It has steel framework incorporated into it and uses the stock hood hinges with lightweight springs and the stock hood latch.   I thought about pins,  bought them, and changed my mind.

It's like 11 years old now and it still kicks ass.     I just had to dig up some old pics from before it had paint on it.   Cost me like $900 back then.   Then the guy disappeared off the face of the earth.

[familymopar]

  I am guessing Brian's hood is steel with a scoop melded in since I don't see any pins.

No.   It's a one off bolt on fiberglass hood made from a mold of a steel hood with a scoop molded onto it.    It has steel framework incorporated into it and uses the stock hood hinges with lightweight springs and the stock hood latch.   I thought about pins,  bought them, and changed my mind.

It's like 11 years old now and it still kicks ass.     I just had to dig up some old pics from before it had paint on it.   Cost me like $900 back then.   Then the guy disappeared off the face of the earth.

Well that is awesome.  I didn't know you could use any glass hood without the pins but I guess it is the steel framework that allows it?  That is great!  Best of both worlds.  If that guy ever surfaces I would like to know, but I won't hold my breath.

That really is my solution though.  Maybe I will look in to getting someone around here to do something similar....

[Ghoste]

Make sure you follow up with the part about the lighter spring for the hood hinges though. 

[A12 Superbee]

This is the hood pin setup on my A12, if you wanted to go down the lift off path. The location of the front two pins might be useful if you want to retain your hinges.

[A12 Superbee]

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[A12 Superbee]

last.
I have larger pics if you need em.

[familymopar]

Thanks for the great pics A12!  I don't have the plates toward the firewall so I won't be doing a lift off.  The front pin locations are definitely helpful.

Would still love to see some 68 pics too, although I can visualize how timmycharger did it well enough, going through the bumpstop hole, would just like to avoid drilling that out. Maybe I just can'y have my cake and eat it too in this situation, i.e. I'll either have to drill some holes I don't like or do without the hood.  We'll see.

[JB400]

You could possibly take an old bump stop, remove the rubbers and weld a nut on top of it that will accept the hood pin

[familymopar]

I thought of something like that too.  If it did not go all the way through the bumpstop mount plate though the pin would sit up very high.  I suppose I could cut the pin and just use a die to thread it up higher, if I'm catching what you're saying.

I thinkmaybe drilling out the bumstop screwhall to a wide enough diameter for the pin may be the answer.  And when I want to switch to my stock hood I could find a bolt that would fit inside the rubber and be large enough to retain it in the plate.  Voila, you'd never see that the screwhole in the plate is a bit (albeit quite a bit) larger.  That might work for me.