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BLACK!!!

Started by Ghoste, August 23, 2014, 11:52:35 AM

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Ghoste

I love it but I hate it. lol
This isn't really a question but a rant.  This is my first black car and when its detailed to the nuts I absolutely love it but it shows everything and I can't get it ever to the level of perfection I want.
Someone needs to invent a special one step black wax that leaves them perfect, just wipe it on and go drive.  :lol:

JB400

Black.....30 minutes of satisfaction after 3-4 hrs. of labor.  At least it looks great for that 30 minutes :drool5:

Ghoste

It sure looks good when its done though.  You're probably right Justin, there is a silver repaint in my future.  :icon_smile_wink:

JB400

I figured it was just a matter of time before it would be silver. :cheers:

Ghoste

It won't too soon, a lot of other things to buy first.

1970Moparmann

Quote from: Ghoste on August 23, 2014, 11:52:35 AM
I love it but I hate it. lol
This isn't really a question but a rant.  This is my first black car and when its detailed to the nuts I absolutely love it but it shows everything and I can't get it ever to the level of perfection I want.
Someone needs to invent a special one step black wax that leaves them perfect, just wipe it on and go drive.  :lol:

Amen Ghoste.   I love my 68, but wish I painted it another color!    :2thumbs:
My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

tan top

    always used  use 3m 05990 Hand glaze , by hand ! , after machine polishing black cars at work !!  then use  your favourite wax

http://3mcollision.com/products/buffing-and-polishing/glazes/3m-hand-glaze-05990.html
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Ghoste

So polish, glaze and wax then?

JB400

With all that rubbing :eek2: be thankful it's not a stretch limo :lol:

Mopar Nut

Quote from: JB400 on August 23, 2014, 01:35:10 PM
With all that rubbing :eek2: be thankful it's not a stretch limo :lol:
It's close to the size.  :lol:
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

JB400

It was brought to my attention of a product from Lucas Oil that done a good job of detailing a black Mercedes SL 500.  I Forget the name of the product.  I was too busy admiring a black Mercedes SL 500 :drool5:

Ghoste

You know they make silver ones too right?

JB400

I'm sure they did, but a silver one wasn't in front of me at the time.  The black one was :drool5:

Here's the Lucas Oil product:     http://lucasoil.com/products/car-care/lucas-slick-mist-speed-wax

The guy that introduced me to it, says that he follows up with a California Car Duster when he's done enjoying the car.

JB400

Just to mention it, the guy that had the black Mercedes SL 500  :drool5: let me touch the surface that he had treated with the Lucas Oil wax, I didn't leave a finger print.  The surface was real slick.  I might get some to play with on the daily.

Ghoste

Thats interesting.  I can detail this wonder of mine and then lean over to get a speck of dust off the hood and leave a huge sweat stain on the fender and I'm wearing a shirt and I'm positive I didn't even touch the fender it's just the added humidity coming off my beer belly. :o

Charger-Bodie

68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

stripedelete

I get polish glaze or polish wax.  But how does the glaze enhance the finished wax job?  Swirl marks?

Mike DC

My recommendation:

1.  Step back.

2.  Say to yourself "I have a fucking badass black 2nd-gen Dodge Charger!  Who the hell cares if the paint needs detailing in spots nobody else even notices?" 


twodko

FLY NAVY/Marine Corps or take the bus!

Ghoste


Dino

Yep black is nice when it's clean, my daily is black.  Never again!
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

tan top

for new paint just out the booth , there are  modern products now , that supposedly save time & make it easier , trizac system & similar  with Da-ing the paint , which is debatable & true they do have their uses in a collision shop get Em ! in get Em out ! but its down operator doing the job .    but for anything decent in single stage black,  reds dark blues , Greens ......... :rotz:

how I & all the older paint guys , who know their stuff ( that's not meant to sound how it sounds ) ,   do any decent car with single stage black paint  ,  if its fresh paint out the booth ,  after denibbing , color sanding etc or what ever it needs ,  with a electric polisher (mop) use the appropriate  sponge pad either flat or a waffle type & for favourite compound either  farecla liquid G3 or the 3M fast cut equivalent ,  once  completed , use 3m machine glaze with a air powered polisher (mop)  low pressure  & a big double sided lambs wool pad .  then  use hand glaze ! put it on with one cloth let it dry a little , ie put it on one panel , then take it off with another cloth  , hoods / roofs etc do half then take it off etc , once done , next wax in your favourite way !
that's a new paint job ,   remember the end finish is only as good as the guy who is doing the job ,  

old paint ,  that's has  had few polish  ups with compound over the years , could have heavy swirls in it ,  maybe  who ever machine polished the paint in the past  , did not use enough water with the compound & or pressed too hard & burnt the paint or picked up  grit or was just polishing like a mad man . or   did not de-grease it after machine polishing  to see if he has missed any flatting marks etc , compound / wax fills or disguises the swirls , that's why after color sanding or denibbing & machine polishing , you should de grease the panels to see if you have missed anything !

ok back on track , I got a bit carried away  :slap:

 for OLD PAINT  I would use  a air powered polisher (mop) with a lambs wool pad & 3M perfect machine glaze ,  then hand glaze by hand as mentioned above , then your favourite wax  !
   
 may seem a lot of work ,  but  trust me if you  have a single stage black car ,  wax half a hood , then machine polish & hand glaze & wax the other half ,  the side that has been hand glazed will look Black ! black  & the side that has just been waxed will look like a smoke gray  well its still black , but compared to the other side ! ,
all what I have mentioned above , will NOT sort out  paint work that has been  wrecked by an inexperienced guy with a electric polisher (mop) ,  but it will help  :Twocents:

 
   
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Wicked72

my last superduty was black and had a new paint job. so damn anal on cleaning it. my new one is black and its getting new paint next year and will be black again! and its a bigger truck..... turtle wax black box is my best friend
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Bob T

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on August 23, 2014, 10:08:59 PM
My recommendation:

1.  Step back.

2.  Say to yourself "I have a fucking badass black 2nd-gen Dodge Charger!  Who the hell cares if the paint needs detailing in spots nobody else even notices?"  



Correct.
And leave the rubber sticking to the rear 1/4 panels  :icon_smile_big:
Old Dog, Old Tricks.

Back N Black

I feel your pain, I have 3 black vehicles.