Operation "Troy-Trade"; Daytona-clone for Y2 C500

[Highbanked Hauler]

    Troy, that tool you have for doing the UPPER control arm bushings. Were you able to use it on the LOWER control arm bushings also ?   Is that a loaner or did you get it from a tool supplier ? I ask because  if the cost isn't lethal I'd get one to do my  Mopar "fleet" work ..

[hemi68charger]

    Troy, that tool you have for doing the UPPER control arm bushings. Were you able to use it on the LOWER control arm bushings also ?   Is that a loaner or did you get it from a tool supplier ? I ask because  if the cost isn't lethal I'd get one to do my  Mopar "fleet" work ..

Al, I googled "Mopar upper control arm removal tool" and found this. It was relatively in expensive. It isn't used for the lowers. I still have to have help with my buddy's bench press. I did the passenger side yesterday in about an hour. I will do the driver's side when I get home later today. I didn't even have to separate the control arm from the upper ball joint... I will see if I can find who I got it from.

[nascarxx29]

there was a vendor that made old time dealer tools

[Charger-Bodie]

there was a vendor that made old time dealer tools

You can buy them on ebay pretty reasonably priced.

[Highbanked Hauler]

    Troy, that tool you have for doing the UPPER control arm bushings. Were you able to use it on the LOWER control arm bushings also ?   Is that a loaner or did you get it from a tool supplier ? I ask because  if the cost isn't lethal I'd get one to do my  Mopar "fleet" work ..

Al, I googled "Mopar upper control arm removal tool" and found this. It was relatively in expensive. It isn't used for the lowers. I still have to have help with my buddy's bench press. I did the passenger side yesterday in about an hour. I will do the driver's side when I get home later today. I didn't even have to separate the control arm from the upper ball joint... I will see if I can find who I got it from.

    I just realized you could make a tool to do the lower ones with a couple of pieces of 1/4 plate and  a piece of pipe large enough to go over the bushing and pull the new one in. I just paid $40. to have the new ones pressed in on sons Challenger and if I had thought I could have made one.

[hemi68charger]

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    I just realized you could make a tool to do the lower ones with a couple of pieces of 1/4 plate and  a piece of pipe large enough to go over the bushing and pull the new one in. I just paid $40. to have the new ones pressed in on sons Challenger and if I had thought I could have made one.

Lower? Then how would you get the outer case of the bushing out of the lower control arm? Pressing the control arm pin is one thing, getting the outer case is another.....

[Highbanked Hauler]

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    I just realized you could make a tool to do the lower ones with a couple of pieces of 1/4 plate and  a piece of pipe large enough to go over the bushing and pull the new one in. I just paid $40. to have the new ones pressed in on sons Challenger and if I had thought I could have made one.

Lower? Then how would you get the outer case of the bushing out of the lower control arm? Pressing the control arm pin is one thing, getting the outer case is another.....

I'd have to do a little research and development on the idea. My problem would be doing it cost effectively.  You'd need a 3/4 drive socket that the rod can go through the same size of the bushing, a piece of 1/2 threaded rod and 4 or so nuts for the rod and a piece of 1/4 or heaver metal on the other side of the control arm to pull against and a collection of hand tools. As I said it would take some tweaking and it is  just an idea.

[Indygenerallee]

I have replaced plenty of lower bushings and they were not too bad, but then again it helps to have a press.

[hemi68charger]

I have replaced plenty of lower bushings and they were not too bad, but then again it helps to have a press.

If one is planning on replacing the rubber OEM style bushing with the polygraphite versions, then it is simple... Press the pin out, burn the rubber out and leave the outer shell case of the bushing in place. Insert the new bushing, press in the original pin and voila, done..........

[Highbanked Hauler]

  Thats what I did on sons Challenger and loaded it up with silicon paste years ago and in a matter of 6 months it was squeaking like mad so I put the rubber bushings this time hence removing the shell also and I have my replica stocker to do and if it works good I'll do the 500 also.

[hemi68charger]

After replacing bushings I thought I would adjust the toe, it seemed to be off a little when I drove the car when I brought her home. So, I am going old school ball-parking it with string to align the front tires. Have the steering wheel centered and since the rear tires are true, you can use that as a straight line creator to the front. So, I adjusted the tie-rod link such the the back of the front tire pulls away from the string. Then I go the other way so it barely touches... Should be close enough to get to the local Goodyear or Firestone for alignment.

[DAY CLONA]

since the rear tires are true

You'd be surprised how much the ass end of an old Mopar is out of whack, no matter how well preserved/accident free the car is....you want that wing to sing into the triple digits without a squirrely ride, have  4 points checked by a quality HP alignment shop...perch shims are made to bring the rear square

Mike

[Charger-Bodie]

since the rear tires are true

You'd be surprised how much the ass end of an old Mopar is out of whack, no matter how well preserved/accident free the car is....you want that wing to sing into the triple digits without a squirrely ride, have  4 points checked by a quality HP alignment shop...perch shims are made to bring the rear square

Mike

Exactly.

[hemi68charger]

since the rear tires are true

You'd be surprised how much the ass end of an old Mopar is out of whack, no matter how well preserved/accident free the car is....you want that wing to sing into the triple digits without a squirrely ride, have  4 points checked by a quality HP alignment shop...perch shims are made to bring the rear square

Mike

Mike, this was just to get her close enough to take to a front end alignment... But, I get what you're saying for sure................   

[hemi68charger]

Mess with the car some more this weekend after I recieved my new pair of goodies, a new pair of matched exterior side-view mirrors. The original driver's remote was pretty pitted and the passenger side was the manual mirror version... So, now things are new and matched.. Looks great !!! One of the final touches to the outside. The next thing will be the pentastar and orgasinol of the rear taillamp panel........

[66FBCharger]

Mess with the car some more this weekend after I recieved my new pair of goodies, a new pair of matched exterior side-view mirrors. The original driver's remote was pretty pitted and the passenger side was the manual mirror version... So, now things are new and matched.. Looks great !!! One of the final touches to the outside. The next thing will be the pentastar and orgasinol of the rear taillamp panel........

Troy,
Where did you buy the pair of side view mirrors? How do you like them?
I want to replace my manual mirror to a pair of this style mirror to make the car safer to drive.

[Highbanked Hauler]

since the rear tires are true

You'd be surprised how much the ass end of an old Mopar is out of whack, no matter how well preserved/accident free the car is....you want that wing to sing into the triple digits without a squirrely ride, have  4 points checked by a quality HP alignment shop...perch shims are made to bring the rear square

Mike

    WOW  where can you get those ?

[nascarxx29]

Seen Driver side and Pass mirrors here   http://www.521restorations.com/index.pl?page=allmodels&sub1=Mirrors

[hemi68charger]

Mess with the car some more this weekend after I recieved my new pair of goodies, a new pair of matched exterior side-view mirrors. The original driver's remote was pretty pitted and the passenger side was the manual mirror version... So, now things are new and matched.. Looks great !!! One of the final touches to the outside. The next thing will be the pentastar and orgasinol of the rear taillamp panel........

Troy,
Where did you buy the pair of side view mirrors? How do you like them?
I want to replace my manual mirror to a pair of this style mirror to make the car safer to drive.

I found mine on ebaymotors.. But, Dave's link is nice as well.................

[moparnation74]

Troy,

Nice work, car looks amazing!

[tan top]

 good stuff , ABT    looks awesome 

[hemi68charger]

Thanks Guys..

Just ordered a complete set of MOOG upper and lower ball joints !!! Damn, I can't leave it alone !!!!!!!      now the suspension's going to be top-notch..... ( albeit, it won't be OEM restored, yada, yada, yada........ But she'll be tight as hell. )

[41husk]

I want her back

[Highbanked Hauler]

Thanks Guys..

Just ordered a complete set of MOOG upper and lower ball joints !!! Damn, I can't leave it alone !!!!!!!      now the suspension's going to be top-notch..... ( albeit, it won't be OEM restored, yada, yada, yada........ But she'll be tight as hell. )

        After  having wrecked and from  20 20 hindsight unless you are going in for professional judging  99.9%  of the people who see the car don't know if they are looking at a NOS part or a repro and probably could care less.  I think drive-ability counts for a lot more than it used to.

[hemi68charger]

I want her back

Whatcha got to trade? Sorry,,,,,,,,,,,, Couldn't resist..........

Thanks Guys..

Just ordered a complete set of MOOG upper and lower ball joints !!! Damn, I can't leave it alone !!!!!!!      now the suspension's going to be top-notch..... ( albeit, it won't be OEM restored, yada, yada, yada........ But she'll be tight as hell. )

       After  having wrecked and from  20 20 hindsight unless you are going in for professional judging  99.9%  of the people who see the car don't know if they are looking at a NOS part or a repro and probably could care less.  I think drive-ability counts for a lot more than it used to.

Yeap... And, the inner fender wells on this car will be easy to "spruce up" since it is black...........   I hear a call to FineLines to get all new plumping too ( the cost is low, but the look and benefit are high ).